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Handywired 09-19-2004 12:11 AM

replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant. I
thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to have
other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed. It
is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and it's
still there.

My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it might
now be out of balance from that... you think?

-jeff

HarryS 09-19-2004 07:13 AM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Did they replace the pilot bushing? Did they resurface the fly wheel? How
is you harmonic balincer?


"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040919001152.08129.00000903@mb-m06.aol.com...
> The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant.
> I
> thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to
> have
> other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed.
> It
> is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and
> it's
> still there.
>
> My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it
> might
> now be out of balance from that... you think?
>
> -jeff





HarryS 09-19-2004 07:13 AM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Did they replace the pilot bushing? Did they resurface the fly wheel? How
is you harmonic balincer?


"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040919001152.08129.00000903@mb-m06.aol.com...
> The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant.
> I
> thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to
> have
> other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed.
> It
> is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and
> it's
> still there.
>
> My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it
> might
> now be out of balance from that... you think?
>
> -jeff





HarryS 09-19-2004 07:13 AM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Did they replace the pilot bushing? Did they resurface the fly wheel? How
is you harmonic balincer?


"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040919001152.08129.00000903@mb-m06.aol.com...
> The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant.
> I
> thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to
> have
> other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed.
> It
> is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and
> it's
> still there.
>
> My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it
> might
> now be out of balance from that... you think?
>
> -jeff





Mike Romain 09-19-2004 10:28 AM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Grease moves as your 'mechanic' well knows so it sure won't be killing
the balance by lubing something and for him to suggest such --------
isn't a good sign.

Did he take apart the driveshaft to maybe clean it before greasing it?
If so maybe he put it back together out of phase. This can cause a
vibration. In phase just means if the front u-joint cap with the bolt
is at the top, then the rear needs to be at the top too, not at the
side.

Did a u-joint just decide to up and quit because it didn't like having
the caps removed? Did he drop or break any needle bearings in the
u-joint? (that would be my guess seeing his trying to baffle you with
BS attitude)

Did he break one of the yoke tabs so the u-joint isn't seated square.

Did he forget to tighten up the u-joint or maybe the tranny mount?

He did something wrong.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Handywired wrote:
>
> The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant. I
> thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to have
> other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed. It
> is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and it's
> still there.
>
> My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it might
> now be out of balance from that... you think?
>
> -jeff


Mike Romain 09-19-2004 10:28 AM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Grease moves as your 'mechanic' well knows so it sure won't be killing
the balance by lubing something and for him to suggest such --------
isn't a good sign.

Did he take apart the driveshaft to maybe clean it before greasing it?
If so maybe he put it back together out of phase. This can cause a
vibration. In phase just means if the front u-joint cap with the bolt
is at the top, then the rear needs to be at the top too, not at the
side.

Did a u-joint just decide to up and quit because it didn't like having
the caps removed? Did he drop or break any needle bearings in the
u-joint? (that would be my guess seeing his trying to baffle you with
BS attitude)

Did he break one of the yoke tabs so the u-joint isn't seated square.

Did he forget to tighten up the u-joint or maybe the tranny mount?

He did something wrong.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Handywired wrote:
>
> The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant. I
> thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to have
> other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed. It
> is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and it's
> still there.
>
> My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it might
> now be out of balance from that... you think?
>
> -jeff


Mike Romain 09-19-2004 10:28 AM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Grease moves as your 'mechanic' well knows so it sure won't be killing
the balance by lubing something and for him to suggest such --------
isn't a good sign.

Did he take apart the driveshaft to maybe clean it before greasing it?
If so maybe he put it back together out of phase. This can cause a
vibration. In phase just means if the front u-joint cap with the bolt
is at the top, then the rear needs to be at the top too, not at the
side.

Did a u-joint just decide to up and quit because it didn't like having
the caps removed? Did he drop or break any needle bearings in the
u-joint? (that would be my guess seeing his trying to baffle you with
BS attitude)

Did he break one of the yoke tabs so the u-joint isn't seated square.

Did he forget to tighten up the u-joint or maybe the tranny mount?

He did something wrong.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Handywired wrote:
>
> The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly apparant. I
> thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to have
> other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration stayed. It
> is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and it's
> still there.
>
> My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that it might
> now be out of balance from that... you think?
>
> -jeff


Brandy Wood 09-19-2004 01:32 PM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Mike,
you are right the drive shaft. That is what it sounded like to me. Watch
out for those shade tree mechanics.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:414D978E.2CF83AA@sympatico.ca...
> Grease moves as your 'mechanic' well knows so it sure won't be killing
> the balance by lubing something and for him to suggest such --------
> isn't a good sign.
>
> Did he take apart the driveshaft to maybe clean it before greasing it?
> If so maybe he put it back together out of phase. This can cause a
> vibration. In phase just means if the front u-joint cap with the bolt
> is at the top, then the rear needs to be at the top too, not at the
> side.
>
> Did a u-joint just decide to up and quit because it didn't like having
> the caps removed? Did he drop or break any needle bearings in the
> u-joint? (that would be my guess seeing his trying to baffle you with
> BS attitude)
>
> Did he break one of the yoke tabs so the u-joint isn't seated square.
>
> Did he forget to tighten up the u-joint or maybe the tranny mount?
>
> He did something wrong.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Handywired wrote:
> >
> > The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly

apparant. I
> > thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to

have
> > other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration

stayed. It
> > is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and

it's
> > still there.
> >
> > My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that

it might
> > now be out of balance from that... you think?
> >
> > -jeff




Brandy Wood 09-19-2004 01:32 PM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Mike,
you are right the drive shaft. That is what it sounded like to me. Watch
out for those shade tree mechanics.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:414D978E.2CF83AA@sympatico.ca...
> Grease moves as your 'mechanic' well knows so it sure won't be killing
> the balance by lubing something and for him to suggest such --------
> isn't a good sign.
>
> Did he take apart the driveshaft to maybe clean it before greasing it?
> If so maybe he put it back together out of phase. This can cause a
> vibration. In phase just means if the front u-joint cap with the bolt
> is at the top, then the rear needs to be at the top too, not at the
> side.
>
> Did a u-joint just decide to up and quit because it didn't like having
> the caps removed? Did he drop or break any needle bearings in the
> u-joint? (that would be my guess seeing his trying to baffle you with
> BS attitude)
>
> Did he break one of the yoke tabs so the u-joint isn't seated square.
>
> Did he forget to tighten up the u-joint or maybe the tranny mount?
>
> He did something wrong.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Handywired wrote:
> >
> > The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly

apparant. I
> > thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to

have
> > other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration

stayed. It
> > is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and

it's
> > still there.
> >
> > My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that

it might
> > now be out of balance from that... you think?
> >
> > -jeff




Brandy Wood 09-19-2004 01:32 PM

Re: replaced clutch, new vibration at 45+ mph
 
Mike,
you are right the drive shaft. That is what it sounded like to me. Watch
out for those shade tree mechanics.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:414D978E.2CF83AA@sympatico.ca...
> Grease moves as your 'mechanic' well knows so it sure won't be killing
> the balance by lubing something and for him to suggest such --------
> isn't a good sign.
>
> Did he take apart the driveshaft to maybe clean it before greasing it?
> If so maybe he put it back together out of phase. This can cause a
> vibration. In phase just means if the front u-joint cap with the bolt
> is at the top, then the rear needs to be at the top too, not at the
> side.
>
> Did a u-joint just decide to up and quit because it didn't like having
> the caps removed? Did he drop or break any needle bearings in the
> u-joint? (that would be my guess seeing his trying to baffle you with
> BS attitude)
>
> Did he break one of the yoke tabs so the u-joint isn't seated square.
>
> Did he forget to tighten up the u-joint or maybe the tranny mount?
>
> He did something wrong.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Handywired wrote:
> >
> > The clutch was replaced by a pro shop. Vibration was instantly

apparant. I
> > thought the clutch itself was the casue, but that clutch turned out to

have
> > other issues and was replaced again under warranty. The vibration

stayed. It
> > is strictly speed related, not RPM's... you can push the clutch in and

it's
> > still there.
> >
> > My mechanic said he shot a bunch of grease into the driveline and that

it might
> > now be out of balance from that... you think?
> >
> > -jeff





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