Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
> the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
> opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
> There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
> vehicle.

I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
have the schematic on the case.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
> the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
> opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
> There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
> vehicle.

I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
have the schematic on the case.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

Roughly 1/29/04 09:12, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:

> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
>> Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
>> the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
>> opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
>> There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
>> vehicle.
>
> I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
> from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
> have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
> have the schematic on the case.

And I definitely forgot to mention that they are readily
available at any junkyard, having been used since at least
the mid-70s on Porsche, VW, etc. Often a nice rack of them
is available in the engine compartment.

The one for the fan on an old Porsche or VW is easily strong
enough, but I never observed any difference in rating marked
on that one compared to the fuel pump relay or such. Just
be sure the schematic markings are still there, and you can
get the socket out of the panel on the old early 70's
fuel injected porsche, vw, etc if you want it in the event
the relay has to be changed.

If you go MCM Newark or a local electronics distributor,
stick to metal cased relays, not the cheap plastic ones.
A continuous duty high current relay is best, and mercury
wetted altho politically incorrect, does cut the contact
resistance enough to avoid heating.


--
Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

Roughly 1/29/04 09:12, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:

> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
>> Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
>> the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
>> opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
>> There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
>> vehicle.
>
> I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
> from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
> have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
> have the schematic on the case.

And I definitely forgot to mention that they are readily
available at any junkyard, having been used since at least
the mid-70s on Porsche, VW, etc. Often a nice rack of them
is available in the engine compartment.

The one for the fan on an old Porsche or VW is easily strong
enough, but I never observed any difference in rating marked
on that one compared to the fuel pump relay or such. Just
be sure the schematic markings are still there, and you can
get the socket out of the panel on the old early 70's
fuel injected porsche, vw, etc if you want it in the event
the relay has to be changed.

If you go MCM Newark or a local electronics distributor,
stick to metal cased relays, not the cheap plastic ones.
A continuous duty high current relay is best, and mercury
wetted altho politically incorrect, does cut the contact
resistance enough to avoid heating.


--
Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

Roughly 1/29/04 09:12, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:

> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
>> Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
>> the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
>> opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
>> There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
>> vehicle.
>
> I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
> from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
> have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
> have the schematic on the case.

And I definitely forgot to mention that they are readily
available at any junkyard, having been used since at least
the mid-70s on Porsche, VW, etc. Often a nice rack of them
is available in the engine compartment.

The one for the fan on an old Porsche or VW is easily strong
enough, but I never observed any difference in rating marked
on that one compared to the fuel pump relay or such. Just
be sure the schematic markings are still there, and you can
get the socket out of the panel on the old early 70's
fuel injected porsche, vw, etc if you want it in the event
the relay has to be changed.

If you go MCM Newark or a local electronics distributor,
stick to metal cased relays, not the cheap plastic ones.
A continuous duty high current relay is best, and mercury
wetted altho politically incorrect, does cut the contact
resistance enough to avoid heating.


--
Now that Spirit Rover has confirmed the presence of weapons of
mass destruction on Mars, we are preparing to invade...

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

I have bought several Sylvania fog light sets, and never have they
included the socket. Their relays have looked exactly like what Radio
Shack sells: http://www.----------.com/relay.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
> > the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
> > opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
> > There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
> > vehicle.
>
> I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
> from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
> have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
> have the schematic on the case.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

I have bought several Sylvania fog light sets, and never have they
included the socket. Their relays have looked exactly like what Radio
Shack sells: http://www.----------.com/relay.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
> > the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
> > opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
> > There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
> > vehicle.
>
> I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
> from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
> have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
> have the schematic on the case.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

I have bought several Sylvania fog light sets, and never have they
included the socket. Their relays have looked exactly like what Radio
Shack sells: http://www.----------.com/relay.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4018f58b$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Good point, Lon, on the Bosch relays. They are socketed, but you can buy
> > the socket prewired, so all you have to do is cut and splice. In my
> > opinion, there is a reason that the major manufacturers use Bosch relays.
> > There are dozens on any given car, and they generally last the life of the
> > vehicle.
>
> I just plug in connectors without sockets. I get 6 or more of them for free
> from every european car I see heading for the scrap yard. BMW's Bosch relays
> have the terminals in the same configuration, but are wired differently, but
> have the schematic on the case.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

I had 2 fuses on the lights about 4 inches away from the battery. i had a 25
amp on the light side and a 3 amp on the switch side the 25 amp fuse was
blown but it didn't blow until the relay was burt to a crisp. I guess their
30 amp rating was a little off. I will try running 2 relays. all the wires
that I used was supplied by k.c. in the kit with the lights. the original
k.c. relay in the kit looked identical to the one I put in there the only
reason I changed it is because one of the terminals corroded off.

the kc relay lasted 2 years

thanks carmine


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4018569B.92A38131@cox.net...
> Where was your fuse? Maybe increase the size of the wire from the
> battery, so resistance heat won't be your problem:
> http://www.kchilites.com/faq.html
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
> Maybe, use two Japanese relays, one for each light.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jet wrote:
> >
> > I have a set of 150 watt 385,000 candle power KC offroad lights on my
jeep
> > and I melted a 30 amp relay. it was a $6 relay I bought at the auto
parts
> > store that the guy insisted would work. so what you guys are using? also
my
> > brother in-law has 4 of same lights on his off roader and is also having
> > problems finding a relay that works on the 4 lights. any suggestions?
> > thanks carmine

Re: relay for offroad lights?
 

I had 2 fuses on the lights about 4 inches away from the battery. i had a 25
amp on the light side and a 3 amp on the switch side the 25 amp fuse was
blown but it didn't blow until the relay was burt to a crisp. I guess their
30 amp rating was a little off. I will try running 2 relays. all the wires
that I used was supplied by k.c. in the kit with the lights. the original
k.c. relay in the kit looked identical to the one I put in there the only
reason I changed it is because one of the terminals corroded off.

the kc relay lasted 2 years

thanks carmine


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4018569B.92A38131@cox.net...
> Where was your fuse? Maybe increase the size of the wire from the
> battery, so resistance heat won't be your problem:
> http://www.kchilites.com/faq.html
> http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
> Maybe, use two Japanese relays, one for each light.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jet wrote:
> >
> > I have a set of 150 watt 385,000 candle power KC offroad lights on my
jeep
> > and I melted a 30 amp relay. it was a $6 relay I bought at the auto
parts
> > store that the guy insisted would work. so what you guys are using? also
my
> > brother in-law has 4 of same lights on his off roader and is also having
> > problems finding a relay that works on the 4 lights. any suggestions?
> > thanks carmine