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Blueshirts 04-25-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> What size tires did you install?
>
> --
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> >
> > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > either too high or too low.
> >
> > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep TJ
> > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the power
> > > >loss.
> > >
> > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > >
> > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > >
> > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your transfer

> case
> > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have the

> front
> > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > >
> > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from 3.73

> to 4.10.
> > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > >
> > > -jeff


Blueshirts 04-25-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> What size tires did you install?
>
> --
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> >
> > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > either too high or too low.
> >
> > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep TJ
> > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the power
> > > >loss.
> > >
> > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > >
> > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > >
> > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your transfer

> case
> > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have the

> front
> > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > >
> > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from 3.73

> to 4.10.
> > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > >
> > > -jeff


Blueshirts 04-25-2004 02:18 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> What size tires did you install?
>
> --
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> >
> > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > either too high or too low.
> >
> > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep TJ
> > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the power
> > > >loss.
> > >
> > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > >
> > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > >
> > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your transfer

> case
> > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have the

> front
> > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > >
> > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from 3.73

> to 4.10.
> > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > >
> > > -jeff


Matt Macchiarolo 04-25-2004 05:44 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
My advice you have 2 choices, the best is to regear when you get bigger
tires than what you have now and live with the lower RPM's until then. Or
regear now to 4.56 so you won't have to do it later and live with the higher
RPM's. Regearing is not cheap and there is no reason why you need to pay for
it twice.

I put 31x10.5's on my TJ with 3.73's, replaced the stock 30x9.5's, and there
was a slight difference but not so much where I felt I had to regear. I went
with 4:56's when I got 33's so I wouldn't have to regear again when I go to
35's.

--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5be854e2.0404251018.2b5ff960@posting.google.c om...
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message

news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep

TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the

power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your

transfer
> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have

the
> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from

3.73
> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff




Matt Macchiarolo 04-25-2004 05:44 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
My advice you have 2 choices, the best is to regear when you get bigger
tires than what you have now and live with the lower RPM's until then. Or
regear now to 4.56 so you won't have to do it later and live with the higher
RPM's. Regearing is not cheap and there is no reason why you need to pay for
it twice.

I put 31x10.5's on my TJ with 3.73's, replaced the stock 30x9.5's, and there
was a slight difference but not so much where I felt I had to regear. I went
with 4:56's when I got 33's so I wouldn't have to regear again when I go to
35's.

--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5be854e2.0404251018.2b5ff960@posting.google.c om...
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message

news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep

TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the

power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your

transfer
> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have

the
> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from

3.73
> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff




Matt Macchiarolo 04-25-2004 05:44 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
My advice you have 2 choices, the best is to regear when you get bigger
tires than what you have now and live with the lower RPM's until then. Or
regear now to 4.56 so you won't have to do it later and live with the higher
RPM's. Regearing is not cheap and there is no reason why you need to pay for
it twice.

I put 31x10.5's on my TJ with 3.73's, replaced the stock 30x9.5's, and there
was a slight difference but not so much where I felt I had to regear. I went
with 4:56's when I got 33's so I wouldn't have to regear again when I go to
35's.

--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5be854e2.0404251018.2b5ff960@posting.google.c om...
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message

news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep

TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the

power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your

transfer
> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have

the
> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from

3.73
> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff




Matt Macchiarolo 04-25-2004 05:44 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
My advice you have 2 choices, the best is to regear when you get bigger
tires than what you have now and live with the lower RPM's until then. Or
regear now to 4.56 so you won't have to do it later and live with the higher
RPM's. Regearing is not cheap and there is no reason why you need to pay for
it twice.

I put 31x10.5's on my TJ with 3.73's, replaced the stock 30x9.5's, and there
was a slight difference but not so much where I felt I had to regear. I went
with 4:56's when I got 33's so I wouldn't have to regear again when I go to
35's.

--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5be854e2.0404251018.2b5ff960@posting.google.c om...
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message

news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep

TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the

power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your

transfer
> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have

the
> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from

3.73
> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff




Mike Romain 04-25-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and I just gave up on 5th gear.

I get better mileage running in 4th rather than lugging it in 5th now
anyway and I have no problems with my 19 US mpg.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Blueshirts wrote:
>
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your transfer

> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have the

> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from 3.73

> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff


Mike Romain 04-25-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and I just gave up on 5th gear.

I get better mileage running in 4th rather than lugging it in 5th now
anyway and I have no problems with my 19 US mpg.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Blueshirts wrote:
>
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your transfer

> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have the

> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from 3.73

> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff


Mike Romain 04-25-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Regear front and rear?
 
I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and I just gave up on 5th gear.

I get better mileage running in 4th rather than lugging it in 5th now
anyway and I have no problems with my 19 US mpg.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Blueshirts wrote:
>
> LT265/75R16 (32's) with plans to probably go slightly bigger in a few
> years down the line when the vehicle is no longer a daily driver.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:<B6GdnTV1fPUmWhbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>...
> > What size tires did you install?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> > "Blueshirts" <milanoa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5be854e2.0404240738.13a2db31@posting.google.c om...
> > > Thanks for the information. I was unsure whether "regearing" meant
> > > front and rear. Obviously this was a dumb question though I really
> > > didn't understand the ramifications of doing one vs both.
> > >
> > > The power loss is bearable though highway driving is not good because
> > > of the shift points. Its hard to keep the vehicle going 65-75 mph
> > > without constantly shifting down or up. The rpm's constantly seem
> > > either too high or too low.
> > >
> > > handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message

> > news:<20040424015119.03175.00000313@mb-m07.aol.com>...
> > > > >I have recently purchased and installed new tires on my 2002 Jeep TJ
> > > > >and was looking into regearing from 3.73 to 4.11 because of the power
> > > > >loss.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that's enough of a ratio change to be worth doing...
> > > >
> > > > >What are the disadvantages of not regearing both axles and what
> > > > >is the cost of regearing both vs. just the rear? I assume the
> > > > >advantage of not doing the front is cost.
> > > >
> > > > The disadvantage to only regearing the rear would be that your transfer

> > case
> > > > would blow up in about 15 feet... you have to do both... can't have the

> > front
> > > > and rear wheels turning at different speeds!
> > > >
> > > > Cost will be $1000-$1200. I wouldn't spend that money to go from 3.73

> > to 4.10.
> > > > You lost some power just from bigger tires weighing more.
> > > >
> > > > -jeff



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