Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
either
left or right?

L8r - Jersey


"Juan" <elcamaney@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gNYMb.7709$1e.7179@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> thanks man
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4002B739.94D1CA81@sympatico.ca...
> > The odds are much higher that one of the u-bolts that holds the axles to
> > the springs has slipped a bit. This will make them dog track. So can a
> > blown rubber bushing in one of the leaf spring ends.
> >
> > I 'think' a corner to corner center under the springs will give you a
> > square or not check.
> >
> > I also only thing the rear CJ seat comes in low back. It is a fold and
> > tumble seat. the back folds down, then the whole seat tips up behind
> > the front seats giving you an open cargo area.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Juan wrote:
> > >
> > > hey folks,
> > >
> > > I'm new to Jeeps. I just got a hold of an 83 CJ 7 that needs a few
> repairs.
> > > The rear seat is missing. Is there such a thing as a high back seat
for
> the
> > > CJs?
> > >
> > > ON another note, I think this jeep has been in a large enough accident
> that
> > > it sorta dog tracks a little. I'm guessing one of the frame members
was
> > > pushed back in a head on accident causing the "ladder's rungs" to
> misalign.
> > > It is ever so slight. AS a matter of fact the bumper shows very little
> > > damage. I have been told that one can slide underneath and measure
> > > particular points on the frame to determine whether the frame is
> actually
> > > bent. Anyone know a quick and accurate way to determine of the frame
is
> > > square without succumbing to a frame and alignment guy right off the
> bat?
> > >
> > > Thanks Fellas,
> > >
> > > Juan
>
>

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
either
left or right?

L8r - Jersey


"Juan" <elcamaney@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gNYMb.7709$1e.7179@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> thanks man
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4002B739.94D1CA81@sympatico.ca...
> > The odds are much higher that one of the u-bolts that holds the axles to
> > the springs has slipped a bit. This will make them dog track. So can a
> > blown rubber bushing in one of the leaf spring ends.
> >
> > I 'think' a corner to corner center under the springs will give you a
> > square or not check.
> >
> > I also only thing the rear CJ seat comes in low back. It is a fold and
> > tumble seat. the back folds down, then the whole seat tips up behind
> > the front seats giving you an open cargo area.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Juan wrote:
> > >
> > > hey folks,
> > >
> > > I'm new to Jeeps. I just got a hold of an 83 CJ 7 that needs a few
> repairs.
> > > The rear seat is missing. Is there such a thing as a high back seat
for
> the
> > > CJs?
> > >
> > > ON another note, I think this jeep has been in a large enough accident
> that
> > > it sorta dog tracks a little. I'm guessing one of the frame members
was
> > > pushed back in a head on accident causing the "ladder's rungs" to
> misalign.
> > > It is ever so slight. AS a matter of fact the bumper shows very little
> > > damage. I have been told that one can slide underneath and measure
> > > particular points on the frame to determine whether the frame is
> actually
> > > bent. Anyone know a quick and accurate way to determine of the frame
is
> > > square without succumbing to a frame and alignment guy right off the
> bat?
> > >
> > > Thanks Fellas,
> > >
> > > Juan
>
>

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
either
left or right?

L8r - Jersey


"Juan" <elcamaney@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gNYMb.7709$1e.7179@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> thanks man
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4002B739.94D1CA81@sympatico.ca...
> > The odds are much higher that one of the u-bolts that holds the axles to
> > the springs has slipped a bit. This will make them dog track. So can a
> > blown rubber bushing in one of the leaf spring ends.
> >
> > I 'think' a corner to corner center under the springs will give you a
> > square or not check.
> >
> > I also only thing the rear CJ seat comes in low back. It is a fold and
> > tumble seat. the back folds down, then the whole seat tips up behind
> > the front seats giving you an open cargo area.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Juan wrote:
> > >
> > > hey folks,
> > >
> > > I'm new to Jeeps. I just got a hold of an 83 CJ 7 that needs a few
> repairs.
> > > The rear seat is missing. Is there such a thing as a high back seat
for
> the
> > > CJs?
> > >
> > > ON another note, I think this jeep has been in a large enough accident
> that
> > > it sorta dog tracks a little. I'm guessing one of the frame members
was
> > > pushed back in a head on accident causing the "ladder's rungs" to
> misalign.
> > > It is ever so slight. AS a matter of fact the bumper shows very little
> > > damage. I have been told that one can slide underneath and measure
> > > particular points on the frame to determine whether the frame is
> actually
> > > bent. Anyone know a quick and accurate way to determine of the frame
is
> > > square without succumbing to a frame and alignment guy right off the
> bat?
> > >
> > > Thanks Fellas,
> > >
> > > Juan
>
>

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

You got it. We see it on bobtails all the time where they cut a
corner and knock the axle back on the springs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jersey wrote:
>
> Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
> I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
> on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
> either
> left or right?
>
> L8r - Jersey

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

You got it. We see it on bobtails all the time where they cut a
corner and knock the axle back on the springs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jersey wrote:
>
> Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
> I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
> on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
> either
> left or right?
>
> L8r - Jersey

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

You got it. We see it on bobtails all the time where they cut a
corner and knock the axle back on the springs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jersey wrote:
>
> Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
> I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
> on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
> either
> left or right?
>
> L8r - Jersey

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

Dog track or puppy walk or crab walk.

Ever watch a puppy when he is out in front on a walk? He wants to go
forward to lead, but has to be looking over his shoulder to make sure
you are there so walks sideways sort of. Most dogs trained to walk
without a leash do this.

The same thing happens to people that have a locker and try to drive in
snow up a hill, they just crab walk up it. The rear end is trying to
pass the front end and stays slid out to the 'low' side so the steering
wheel has to be turned to have the vehicle go straight.

If one corner on a leaf spring is loose, usually from a loose u-bolt or
a sheared center pin, it will cause the same type of thing, the vehicle
appears to be sideways as it is going straight.

Mike

Jersey wrote:
>
> Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
> I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
> on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
> either
> left or right?
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
> "Juan" <elcamaney@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gNYMb.7709$1e.7179@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > thanks man
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4002B739.94D1CA81@sympatico.ca...
> > > The odds are much higher that one of the u-bolts that holds the axles to
> > > the springs has slipped a bit. This will make them dog track. So can a
> > > blown rubber bushing in one of the leaf spring ends.
> > >
> > > I 'think' a corner to corner center under the springs will give you a
> > > square or not check.
> > >
> > > I also only thing the rear CJ seat comes in low back. It is a fold and
> > > tumble seat. the back folds down, then the whole seat tips up behind
> > > the front seats giving you an open cargo area.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Juan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to Jeeps. I just got a hold of an 83 CJ 7 that needs a few
> > repairs.
> > > > The rear seat is missing. Is there such a thing as a high back seat
> for
> > the
> > > > CJs?
> > > >
> > > > ON another note, I think this jeep has been in a large enough accident
> > that
> > > > it sorta dog tracks a little. I'm guessing one of the frame members
> was
> > > > pushed back in a head on accident causing the "ladder's rungs" to
> > misalign.
> > > > It is ever so slight. AS a matter of fact the bumper shows very little
> > > > damage. I have been told that one can slide underneath and measure
> > > > particular points on the frame to determine whether the frame is
> > actually
> > > > bent. Anyone know a quick and accurate way to determine of the frame
> is
> > > > square without succumbing to a frame and alignment guy right off the
> > bat?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Fellas,
> > > >
> > > > Juan
> >
> >

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

Dog track or puppy walk or crab walk.

Ever watch a puppy when he is out in front on a walk? He wants to go
forward to lead, but has to be looking over his shoulder to make sure
you are there so walks sideways sort of. Most dogs trained to walk
without a leash do this.

The same thing happens to people that have a locker and try to drive in
snow up a hill, they just crab walk up it. The rear end is trying to
pass the front end and stays slid out to the 'low' side so the steering
wheel has to be turned to have the vehicle go straight.

If one corner on a leaf spring is loose, usually from a loose u-bolt or
a sheared center pin, it will cause the same type of thing, the vehicle
appears to be sideways as it is going straight.

Mike

Jersey wrote:
>
> Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
> I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
> on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
> either
> left or right?
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
> "Juan" <elcamaney@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gNYMb.7709$1e.7179@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > thanks man
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4002B739.94D1CA81@sympatico.ca...
> > > The odds are much higher that one of the u-bolts that holds the axles to
> > > the springs has slipped a bit. This will make them dog track. So can a
> > > blown rubber bushing in one of the leaf spring ends.
> > >
> > > I 'think' a corner to corner center under the springs will give you a
> > > square or not check.
> > >
> > > I also only thing the rear CJ seat comes in low back. It is a fold and
> > > tumble seat. the back folds down, then the whole seat tips up behind
> > > the front seats giving you an open cargo area.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Juan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to Jeeps. I just got a hold of an 83 CJ 7 that needs a few
> > repairs.
> > > > The rear seat is missing. Is there such a thing as a high back seat
> for
> > the
> > > > CJs?
> > > >
> > > > ON another note, I think this jeep has been in a large enough accident
> > that
> > > > it sorta dog tracks a little. I'm guessing one of the frame members
> was
> > > > pushed back in a head on accident causing the "ladder's rungs" to
> > misalign.
> > > > It is ever so slight. AS a matter of fact the bumper shows very little
> > > > damage. I have been told that one can slide underneath and measure
> > > > particular points on the frame to determine whether the frame is
> > actually
> > > > bent. Anyone know a quick and accurate way to determine of the frame
> is
> > > > square without succumbing to a frame and alignment guy right off the
> > bat?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Fellas,
> > > >
> > > > Juan
> >
> >

Re: rear seat options and frame repair
 

Dog track or puppy walk or crab walk.

Ever watch a puppy when he is out in front on a walk? He wants to go
forward to lead, but has to be looking over his shoulder to make sure
you are there so walks sideways sort of. Most dogs trained to walk
without a leash do this.

The same thing happens to people that have a locker and try to drive in
snow up a hill, they just crab walk up it. The rear end is trying to
pass the front end and stays slid out to the 'low' side so the steering
wheel has to be turned to have the vehicle go straight.

If one corner on a leaf spring is loose, usually from a loose u-bolt or
a sheared center pin, it will cause the same type of thing, the vehicle
appears to be sideways as it is going straight.

Mike

Jersey wrote:
>
> Xcuse my ignorance but I've never heard the term "Dog Track" before
> I'm assuming that it wants to turn to the right like the dogs when they run
> on the track Or is it just a term for the thing to want to go in circles
> either
> left or right?
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
> "Juan" <elcamaney@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gNYMb.7709$1e.7179@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > thanks man
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4002B739.94D1CA81@sympatico.ca...
> > > The odds are much higher that one of the u-bolts that holds the axles to
> > > the springs has slipped a bit. This will make them dog track. So can a
> > > blown rubber bushing in one of the leaf spring ends.
> > >
> > > I 'think' a corner to corner center under the springs will give you a
> > > square or not check.
> > >
> > > I also only thing the rear CJ seat comes in low back. It is a fold and
> > > tumble seat. the back folds down, then the whole seat tips up behind
> > > the front seats giving you an open cargo area.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Juan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to Jeeps. I just got a hold of an 83 CJ 7 that needs a few
> > repairs.
> > > > The rear seat is missing. Is there such a thing as a high back seat
> for
> > the
> > > > CJs?
> > > >
> > > > ON another note, I think this jeep has been in a large enough accident
> > that
> > > > it sorta dog tracks a little. I'm guessing one of the frame members
> was
> > > > pushed back in a head on accident causing the "ladder's rungs" to
> > misalign.
> > > > It is ever so slight. AS a matter of fact the bumper shows very little
> > > > damage. I have been told that one can slide underneath and measure
> > > > particular points on the frame to determine whether the frame is
> > actually
> > > > bent. Anyone know a quick and accurate way to determine of the frame
> is
> > > > square without succumbing to a frame and alignment guy right off the
> > bat?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Fellas,
> > > >
> > > > Juan
> >
> >