Re: YJ OK?
The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor,
don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, but the freeway can be another matter entirely. The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is far superior (comfortable). If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, you will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > Hi Everyone, > > I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do > inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands > etc. - maybe > > I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked into > them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes ( > versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still Off > Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I shelved > the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get new , > or at least newer TJ. > > My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good > friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me a > 93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k > ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and I > don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). > > I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an acceptable > option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold out > and spend more and get a TJ series. > > Thanks in advance, > Mark > > |
Re: YJ OK?
That's freeway in traffic. You're going to be in the right lane with
all the old Subarus, VW Microbuses and such, because it takes such a lot time to pass anyone going seventy. If the traffic is reasonable, on the other hand, it won't bother you much, although with three passengers and mountain passes you'll be downshifting a lot. If you're driving thirty miles each way to work, day in and day out, well I'm sorry about it, but I am not doing that any more. ;o) The four cylinder models come with 4.11 gears, which are pretty good for the trail and around town too. Earle Jeff Strickland wrote: > The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor, > don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is > they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, > but the freeway can be another matter entirely. > > The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is > far superior (comfortable). > > If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very > happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to > work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for > very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an > occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every > day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, you > will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. > > > > "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message > news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do >>inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands >>etc. - maybe >> >>I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked > > into > >>them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes ( >>versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still Off >>Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I > > shelved > >>the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get new > > , > >>or at least newer TJ. >> >>My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good >>friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me a >>93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k >>ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and I >>don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). >> >>I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an acceptable >>option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold > > out > >>and spend more and get a TJ series. >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Mark >> >> > > > |
Re: YJ OK?
That's freeway in traffic. You're going to be in the right lane with
all the old Subarus, VW Microbuses and such, because it takes such a lot time to pass anyone going seventy. If the traffic is reasonable, on the other hand, it won't bother you much, although with three passengers and mountain passes you'll be downshifting a lot. If you're driving thirty miles each way to work, day in and day out, well I'm sorry about it, but I am not doing that any more. ;o) The four cylinder models come with 4.11 gears, which are pretty good for the trail and around town too. Earle Jeff Strickland wrote: > The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor, > don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is > they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, > but the freeway can be another matter entirely. > > The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is > far superior (comfortable). > > If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very > happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to > work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for > very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an > occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every > day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, you > will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. > > > > "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message > news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do >>inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands >>etc. - maybe >> >>I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked > > into > >>them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes ( >>versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still Off >>Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I > > shelved > >>the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get new > > , > >>or at least newer TJ. >> >>My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good >>friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me a >>93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k >>ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and I >>don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). >> >>I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an acceptable >>option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold > > out > >>and spend more and get a TJ series. >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Mark >> >> > > > |
Re: YJ OK?
Thanks Jeff.
It seems my scenario would tolerate a 4 cylinder, as I work at a home office - and have no commute. My driving would definitely be local, with little highway. The point you bring up is the one that I was questioning: - The TJ has the "far superior (comfortable) " suspension. and the basics - i.e. - if a certain model/year has any known weaknesses to watch out for, or certain features that fail at a given mileage, etc. I understand it is a manual transmission, and has a hard top. I'll follow up once I know more details. Thanks again. MEL "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vmch5ns4lqi78a@corp.supernews.com... > The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor, > don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is > they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, > but the freeway can be another matter entirely. > > The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is > far superior (comfortable). > > If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very > happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to > work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for > very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an > occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every > day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, you > will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. > > > > "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message > news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do > > inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands > > etc. - maybe > > > > I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked > into > > them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes ( > > versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still Off > > Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I > shelved > > the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get new > , > > or at least newer TJ. > > > > My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good > > friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me a > > 93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k > > ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and I > > don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). > > > > I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an acceptable > > option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold > out > > and spend more and get a TJ series. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark > > > > > > |
Re: YJ OK?
Thanks Jeff.
It seems my scenario would tolerate a 4 cylinder, as I work at a home office - and have no commute. My driving would definitely be local, with little highway. The point you bring up is the one that I was questioning: - The TJ has the "far superior (comfortable) " suspension. and the basics - i.e. - if a certain model/year has any known weaknesses to watch out for, or certain features that fail at a given mileage, etc. I understand it is a manual transmission, and has a hard top. I'll follow up once I know more details. Thanks again. MEL "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vmch5ns4lqi78a@corp.supernews.com... > The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor, > don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is > they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, > but the freeway can be another matter entirely. > > The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is > far superior (comfortable). > > If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very > happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to > work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for > very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an > occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every > day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, you > will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. > > > > "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message > news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do > > inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands > > etc. - maybe > > > > I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked > into > > them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes ( > > versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still Off > > Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I > shelved > > the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get new > , > > or at least newer TJ. > > > > My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good > > friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me a > > 93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k > > ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and I > > don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). > > > > I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an acceptable > > option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold > out > > and spend more and get a TJ series. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark > > > > > > |
Re: YJ OK?
Do the coil overs make a difference over the leaf springs on off-road handling? I'm not worried about highway or downtown driving, most the driving I do is off pavement anyways. Ben > The point you bring up is the one that I was questioning: - The TJ has the > "far superior (comfortable) " suspension. > > and the basics - i.e. - if a certain model/year has any known weaknesses to > watch out for, or certain features that fail at a given mileage, etc. > > I understand it is a manual transmission, and has a hard top. I'll follow > up once I know more details. > Thanks again. > MEL > > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vmch5ns4lqi78a@corp.supernews.com... > > The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor, > > don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is > > they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, > > but the freeway can be another matter entirely. > > > > The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is > > far superior (comfortable). > > > > If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very > > happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to > > work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for > > very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an > > occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every > > day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, > you > > will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. > > > > > > > > "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message > > news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do > > > inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands > > > etc. - maybe > > > > > > I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked > > into > > > them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes > ( > > > versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still > Off > > > Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I > > shelved > > > the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get > new > > , > > > or at least newer TJ. > > > > > > My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good > > > friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me > a > > > 93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k > > > ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and > I > > > don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). > > > > > > I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an > acceptable > > > option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold > > out > > > and spend more and get a TJ series. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: YJ OK?
Do the coil overs make a difference over the leaf springs on off-road handling? I'm not worried about highway or downtown driving, most the driving I do is off pavement anyways. Ben > The point you bring up is the one that I was questioning: - The TJ has the > "far superior (comfortable) " suspension. > > and the basics - i.e. - if a certain model/year has any known weaknesses to > watch out for, or certain features that fail at a given mileage, etc. > > I understand it is a manual transmission, and has a hard top. I'll follow > up once I know more details. > Thanks again. > MEL > > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vmch5ns4lqi78a@corp.supernews.com... > > The only thing I worry about it the 4 banger motor. This is a great motor, > > don't get me wrong. But, the only complaints that we hear around here is > > they can be a weak performer on the freeway. They work GREAT on the trail, > > but the freeway can be another matter entirely. > > > > The TJ with a 4 is a comparable performer to the YJ, but the suspension is > > far superior (comfortable). > > > > If your errands lean towards running around town, then you will be very > > happy with the 4. But, if you find yourself using the Jeep to commute to > > work and spend long hours on the freeway, then you will not be happy for > > very long. There is a huge difference in getting on the freeway for an > > occasional 60 or 100 mile trip, and driving 30 miles back and forth every > > day, day in and day out. For the former, the 4 is fine, for the latter, > you > > will prefer the 4.0L 6 cylinder motor. > > > > > > > > "MEL" <markl@REMOVEaracnet.com> wrote in message > > news:bk51ov01be2@enews1.newsguy.com... > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I need to get another vehicle in the household and am trying to do > > > inexpensively. It will be used for street use - around town, errands > > > etc. - maybe > > > > > > I've always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and as recently as a year ago looked > > into > > > them a bit, and it sounded like the newer TJ's introduced major changes > ( > > > versus YJ's, CJ's, etc ) to make them better on the street, yet still > Off > > > Road Worthy. Problem is they're obviously much more expensive. I > > shelved > > > the idea until I could work $18k ish into the budget for a car to get > new > > , > > > or at least newer TJ. > > > > > > My situation has it where I need another vehicle - NOW - and a very good > > > friend ( meaning I can trust him ) works at an autodealer and can get me > a > > > 93 YJ that came in on a trade at potentially a very good price ( ie. $3k > > > ish) as they have it on the lot at $4995. It's just a 4 cylinder, and > I > > > don't have the specs yet ( Mileage, tires wheels, options ). > > > > > > I thought I'd post quickly to see if the group feels this is an > acceptable > > > option to pursue ( if the car is in good shape ), versus reasons to hold > > out > > > and spend more and get a TJ series. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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