Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
Wranglers with Dana 44's are not available from the factory with ABS. If you
order the 30" tire wheel group, you will get the rear 44. If you order the 30" tire/wheel group and ABS it will substitute the Dana 35 rear axle, if they are still doing that...that's what happened with my 2000. Since the Rubicons have Dana 44's ABS is not available on them. The ABS only kicks in at low speeds, so if you are on the trail going fast enough to activate the ABS, you're probably going too fast. And it can be disabled by pulling tha ABS fuse anyhow. No reason to wait for a 2004, IMHO. Dealers want to get the 2003's off the lots so you might get a better deal. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>,
mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: >The ABS only kicks in at low speeds Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail speeds the ABS won't activate. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh.
On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, then it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV trail on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his brakes would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the fuse and made it the second time without hitting any trees. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > > >The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > > Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail speeds the > ABS won't activate. > * * * > Matt Macchiarolo > www.townpeddler.com > www.wolverine4wd.org > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes
hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't always fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy highways and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline with the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one standard, perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. Steve Moline wrote: > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get informative, > useful information here. > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday (40 miles > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for safety reasons. > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one rainy and/or > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler occasionally, and > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is an > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when off-roading. > > Best regards to all, > > Steve > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, "Mike Romain" > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. >> >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, then >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV trail >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. >> >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his brakes >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the fuse >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >>> >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: >>> >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds >>> >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail speeds the >>> ABS won't activate. >>> * * * >>> Matt Macchiarolo >>> www.townpeddler.com >>> www.wolverine4wd.org >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
Someone else mentioned using the 4 low light as a trigger signal for a
relay that opens the fuse power. That would not be hard to do, see the link for easy relay wiring: http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lon Stowell wrote: > > If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes > hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't always > fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy highways > and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline with > the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one standard, > perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. > > Steve Moline wrote: > > > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get informative, > > useful information here. > > > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday (40 miles > > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for safety reasons. > > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one rainy and/or > > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler occasionally, and > > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is an > > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when off-roading. > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > Steve > > > > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, "Mike Romain" > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. > >> > >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, then > >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV trail > >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. > >> > >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his brakes > >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the fuse > >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> > >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >>> > >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > >>> > >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > >>> > >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail speeds the > >>> ABS won't activate. > >>> * * * > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > >>> www.townpeddler.com > >>> www.wolverine4wd.org > >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > > |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
At least on the Wrangler TJ, the ABS automatically shuts itself off at
speeds slower than 5mph. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford KC6TAY, PP-ASEL The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything! See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F075B73.B223EC86@sympatico.ca... > Someone else mentioned using the 4 low light as a trigger signal for a > relay that opens the fuse power. > > That would not be hard to do, see the link for easy relay wiring: > > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm > > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes > > hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't always > > fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy highways > > and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline with > > the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one standard, > > perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. > > > > Steve Moline wrote: > > > > > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get informative, > > > useful information here. > > > > > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday (40 miles > > > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for safety reasons. > > > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one rainy and/or > > > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler occasionally, and > > > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is an > > > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when off-roading. > > > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, "Mike Romain" > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. > > >> > > >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, then > > >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV trail > > >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. > > >> > > >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his brakes > > >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the fuse > > >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. > > >> > > >> Mike > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >> > > >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > >>> > > >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > > >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > > >>> > > >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > > >>> > > >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail speeds the > > >>> ABS won't activate. > > >>> * * * > > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > > >>> www.townpeddler.com > > >>> www.wolverine4wd.org > > >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > > > |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
That's what I was thinking, Jerry. I messed around with the wife's
Saturn and it will positively lock the brakes at very slow speeds as well on a sand covered parking lot. Doesn't make sense otherwise - you could never come to a full stop. That would be the type surfaces where I didn't want it anyway, but part of my predjufice comes from driving jets where you steer with differential braking in a lot of situations. On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:27:05 UTC "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote: > At least on the Wrangler TJ, the ABS automatically shuts itself off at > speeds slower than 5mph. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything! > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:3F075B73.B223EC86@sympatico.ca... > > Someone else mentioned using the 4 low light as a trigger signal for a > > relay that opens the fuse power. > > > > That would not be hard to do, see the link for easy relay wiring: > > > > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm > > > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > > > If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes > > > hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't always > > > fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy highways > > > and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline with > > > the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one standard, > > > perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. > > > > > > Steve Moline wrote: > > > > > > > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get > informative, > > > > useful information here. > > > > > > > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday (40 > miles > > > > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for safety > reasons. > > > > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one rainy > and/or > > > > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler occasionally, > and > > > > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is an > > > > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when > off-roading. > > > > > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, "Mike > Romain" > > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. > > > >> > > > >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, > then > > > >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV > trail > > > >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. > > > >> > > > >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his > brakes > > > >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the > fuse > > > >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. > > > >> > > > >> Mike > > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > >> > > > >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > > > >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > > > >>> > > > >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > > > >>> > > > >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail > speeds the > > > >>> ABS won't activate. > > > >>> * * * > > > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > > > >>> www.townpeddler.com > > > >>> www.wolverine4wd.org > > > >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > > > > > > -- Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net> |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
The big problem I see is where you are going 'more' than 5 mph and need
the brakes. Then ABS kicks in until you 'eventually' stop or the tree decides to stop you. We have to run hard at some spots on our trails, nothing like the rock crawling Jerry does. Mike Will Honea wrote: > > That's what I was thinking, Jerry. I messed around with the wife's > Saturn and it will positively lock the brakes at very slow speeds as > well on a sand covered parking lot. Doesn't make sense otherwise - > you could never come to a full stop. That would be the type surfaces > where I didn't want it anyway, but part of my predjufice comes from > driving jets where you steer with differential braking in a lot of > situations. > > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:27:05 UTC "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> > wrote: > > > At least on the Wrangler TJ, the ABS automatically shuts itself off at > > speeds slower than 5mph. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything! > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:3F075B73.B223EC86@sympatico.ca... > > > Someone else mentioned using the 4 low light as a trigger signal for a > > > relay that opens the fuse power. > > > > > > That would not be hard to do, see the link for easy relay wiring: > > > > > > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > > > > > If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes > > > > hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't always > > > > fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy highways > > > > and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline with > > > > the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one standard, > > > > perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. > > > > > > > > Steve Moline wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get > > informative, > > > > > useful information here. > > > > > > > > > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday (40 > > miles > > > > > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for safety > > reasons. > > > > > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one rainy > > and/or > > > > > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler occasionally, > > and > > > > > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is an > > > > > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when > > off-roading. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, "Mike > > Romain" > > > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. > > > > >> > > > > >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, > > then > > > > >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV > > trail > > > > >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. > > > > >> > > > > >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his > > brakes > > > > >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the > > fuse > > > > >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. > > > > >> > > > > >> Mike > > > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > >> > > > > >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > > > > >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail > > speeds the > > > > >>> ABS won't activate. > > > > >>> * * * > > > > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > > > > >>> www.townpeddler.com > > > > >>> www.wolverine4wd.org > > > > >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net> |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
I learned to drive during a New England winter. I don't need no stinking
ABS brakes... Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F083F3E.4567F38B@sympatico.ca... > The big problem I see is where you are going 'more' than 5 mph and need > the brakes. Then ABS kicks in until you 'eventually' stop or the tree > decides to stop you. > > We have to run hard at some spots on our trails, nothing like the rock > crawling Jerry does. > > Mike > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > That's what I was thinking, Jerry. I messed around with the wife's > > Saturn and it will positively lock the brakes at very slow speeds as > > well on a sand covered parking lot. Doesn't make sense otherwise - > > you could never come to a full stop. That would be the type surfaces > > where I didn't want it anyway, but part of my predjufice comes from > > driving jets where you steer with differential braking in a lot of > > situations. > > > > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:27:05 UTC "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> > > wrote: > > > > > At least on the Wrangler TJ, the ABS automatically shuts itself off at > > > speeds slower than 5mph. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything! > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:3F075B73.B223EC86@sympatico.ca... > > > > Someone else mentioned using the 4 low light as a trigger signal for a > > > > relay that opens the fuse power. > > > > > > > > That would not be hard to do, see the link for easy relay wiring: > > > > > > > > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes > > > > > hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't always > > > > > fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy highways > > > > > and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline with > > > > > the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one standard, > > > > > perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. > > > > > > > > > > Steve Moline wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get > > > informative, > > > > > > useful information here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday (40 > > > miles > > > > > > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for safety > > > reasons. > > > > > > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one rainy > > > and/or > > > > > > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler occasionally, > > > and > > > > > > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is an > > > > > > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when > > > off-roading. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, "Mike > > > Romain" > > > > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest them, > > > then > > > > > >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed ATV > > > trail > > > > > >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his > > > brakes > > > > > >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled the > > > fuse > > > > > >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mike > > > > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > > > > > >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at trail > > > speeds the > > > > > >>> ABS won't activate. > > > > > >>> * * * > > > > > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > > > > > >>> www.townpeddler.com > > > > > >>> www.wolverine4wd.org > > > > > >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net> |
Re: Wrangler & antilock brakes
LOL!
Tell me about it, I grew up a bit north east of there. Same ice storms. When they first came out with rear ABS or that combination valve thing so the rear brakes couldn't lock up, I learned 'real' fast that an automatic had to be put in neutral or there was absolutely no way to stop in time for any yellow light that comes on before the red... By the time you see the yellow, it's too late if you leave it in gear, the back tires just keep on going and going and going.... and push you right on through the intersection. I learned to have an active dislike of 'anti lock' brakes.... Mike Earle Horton wrote: > > I learned to drive during a New England winter. I don't need no stinking > ABS brakes... > > Earle > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:3F083F3E.4567F38B@sympatico.ca... > > The big problem I see is where you are going 'more' than 5 mph and need > > the brakes. Then ABS kicks in until you 'eventually' stop or the tree > > decides to stop you. > > > > We have to run hard at some spots on our trails, nothing like the rock > > crawling Jerry does. > > > > Mike > > > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > > > That's what I was thinking, Jerry. I messed around with the wife's > > > Saturn and it will positively lock the brakes at very slow speeds as > > > well on a sand covered parking lot. Doesn't make sense otherwise - > > > you could never come to a full stop. That would be the type surfaces > > > where I didn't want it anyway, but part of my predjufice comes from > > > driving jets where you steer with differential braking in a lot of > > > situations. > > > > > > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:27:05 UTC "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > At least on the Wrangler TJ, the ABS automatically shuts itself off > at > > > > speeds slower than 5mph. > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > -- > > > > Jerry Bransford > > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything! > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > > news:3F075B73.B223EC86@sympatico.ca... > > > > > Someone else mentioned using the 4 low light as a trigger signal for > a > > > > > relay that opens the fuse power. > > > > > > > > > > That would not be hard to do, see the link for easy relay wiring: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > > > Lon Stowell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have folks driving that don't regularly stomp on the brakes > > > > > > > hard, or folks who may know how to modulate brakes but don't > always > > > > > > fill up on caffeine before driving, ABS is great on crappy > highways > > > > > > and/or snotlike offroad surfaces. Putting a defeat switch inline > with > > > > > > the fuse sounds like a good answer...too bad there isn't one > standard, > > > > > > perhaps automatically set by 4wd low mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Moline wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more good info pouring in. Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get > > > > informative, > > > > > > > useful information here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still on the fence about ABS. I do a long commute everyday > (40 > > > > miles > > > > > > > each way, Northern VA), so would really like to have ABS for > safety > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > The ABS in my Grand Cherokee has proven useful on more than one > rainy > > > > and/or > > > > > > > snowy occasion. Plus, the wife will drive the Wrangler > occasionally, > > > > and > > > > > > > would like her to be ABS-equipped also. Perhaps the best bet is > an > > > > > > > ABS-equipped Sport (or Sahara?), and just remove the fuse when > > > > off-roading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards to all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/03 4:44 PM, in article 3F0738B8.524EC2A0@sympatico.ca, > "Mike > > > > Romain" > > > > > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Now that 'really' depends on the trail there eh. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On our ravines, we need to be floored in 2nd or 3rd to crest > them, > > > > then > > > > > > >> it is straight down with trees or cliffs or one skinny assed > ATV > > > > trail > > > > > > >> on the other side. Gotta be able to lock the brakes. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I also have watched a TJ calmly roll on into a tree because his > > > > brakes > > > > > > >> would not lock on something like a 65 deg down hill. He pulled > the > > > > fuse > > > > > > >> and made it the second time without hitting any trees. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Mike > > > > > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> In article <20030705145807.09580.00001248@mb-m13.aol.com>, > > > > > > >>> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> The ABS only kicks in at low speeds > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Oops. Should read "ABS kicks in at high speeds." Meaning at > trail > > > > speeds the > > > > > > >>> ABS won't activate. > > > > > > >>> * * * > > > > > > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > > > > > > >>> www.townpeddler.com > > > > > > >>> www.wolverine4wd.org > > > > > > >>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net> |
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