Re: What kind of gas?
 

I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.

He describes it this way,

ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the additive is
put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of additive
can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !

SO BUY THE CHEAPEST

Jim

Re: What kind of gas?
 

James Hilins wrote:

> I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.
>
> He describes it this way,
>
> ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the additive
> is
> put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of additive
> can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !

Not true. Big companies have their direct suppliers. Small ones buy on the
open market.

Re: What kind of gas?
 

James Hilins wrote:

> I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.
>
> He describes it this way,
>
> ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the additive
> is
> put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of additive
> can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !

Not true. Big companies have their direct suppliers. Small ones buy on the
open market.

Re: What kind of gas?
 

There was a program on the discovery or learning channel a couple of
months ago, they cited one pipeline that pumps from a tx refinery to the
midwest, all the gas is single brand generic gas. Once it gets to the end
of the pipeline it is taken to the individual terminals of the 'brands'
where it gets their 'special' additives that make it mid grade and super
grades and 'theirs' but not before. Chevron was the only exception that
they mentioned, they seem to have some of their own personal pipelines
but we don't have alot of chevron stations here in Pa. Apparently one
company does all the pipleining for the whole US, or most of it anyway
and both sends and receives it to their terminals. Interesting show, I
don't think the oil companies enjoyed it much because in one hour it
removed the smoke and mirrors that several million dollars and 40 years
worth of advertising helped create.
I run the cheapest gas I can find in my 98XJ, change the plugs every
70,000mi, add a quart of chevron techron every 10K and at 182,000 mi am
perfectly happy. It gives me 22mpg, does good in the rocks and will crawl
all day off road. I even smile at people pumping premium in their jeeps
and no longer try to convince them it's a waste of money, if your stock
4.0 won't run on regular then something is wrong with it that the higher
octane is covering up like bad O2 sensors, knock sensors or other
problem, I know too many people that have, 4.0L, 318's and 360 V8 ZJ's
that run fine on regular.

Back in the 60's my neighbor owned a Shell station in NJ, I worked there
part time in jr high and as it was a 5 min bicycle ride from the house I
would go there late at nite to tally up the delivery. Sometimes he would
buy Shell and sometimes he would by generic, depended on the price. Shell
deliveries came in the daylight, generic came at nite, usually after 11pm
:-) Found out it was common practice but back then gas was .17 a gallon
for regular and .22 for high test.., cost was .05 and .09 a gallon for
generic and .08 and .12 a gallon for 'branded' gas, the consumer price
was competitive according to what the next nearest station was selling it
for, I remember some of the 'gas wars' that went on, amazing.


Big Daddy <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:3f5aa897$0$43885$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net:

> James Hilins wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.
>>
>> He describes it this way,
>>
>> ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the
>> additive is
>> put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of
>> additive can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !
>
> Not true. Big companies have their direct suppliers. Small ones buy on
> the open market.
>
>

Re: What kind of gas?
 

There was a program on the discovery or learning channel a couple of
months ago, they cited one pipeline that pumps from a tx refinery to the
midwest, all the gas is single brand generic gas. Once it gets to the end
of the pipeline it is taken to the individual terminals of the 'brands'
where it gets their 'special' additives that make it mid grade and super
grades and 'theirs' but not before. Chevron was the only exception that
they mentioned, they seem to have some of their own personal pipelines
but we don't have alot of chevron stations here in Pa. Apparently one
company does all the pipleining for the whole US, or most of it anyway
and both sends and receives it to their terminals. Interesting show, I
don't think the oil companies enjoyed it much because in one hour it
removed the smoke and mirrors that several million dollars and 40 years
worth of advertising helped create.
I run the cheapest gas I can find in my 98XJ, change the plugs every
70,000mi, add a quart of chevron techron every 10K and at 182,000 mi am
perfectly happy. It gives me 22mpg, does good in the rocks and will crawl
all day off road. I even smile at people pumping premium in their jeeps
and no longer try to convince them it's a waste of money, if your stock
4.0 won't run on regular then something is wrong with it that the higher
octane is covering up like bad O2 sensors, knock sensors or other
problem, I know too many people that have, 4.0L, 318's and 360 V8 ZJ's
that run fine on regular.

Back in the 60's my neighbor owned a Shell station in NJ, I worked there
part time in jr high and as it was a 5 min bicycle ride from the house I
would go there late at nite to tally up the delivery. Sometimes he would
buy Shell and sometimes he would by generic, depended on the price. Shell
deliveries came in the daylight, generic came at nite, usually after 11pm
:-) Found out it was common practice but back then gas was .17 a gallon
for regular and .22 for high test.., cost was .05 and .09 a gallon for
generic and .08 and .12 a gallon for 'branded' gas, the consumer price
was competitive according to what the next nearest station was selling it
for, I remember some of the 'gas wars' that went on, amazing.


Big Daddy <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:3f5aa897$0$43885$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net:

> James Hilins wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.
>>
>> He describes it this way,
>>
>> ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the
>> additive is
>> put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of
>> additive can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !
>
> Not true. Big companies have their direct suppliers. Small ones buy on
> the open market.
>
>

Re: What kind of gas?
 

Approximately 9/6/03 20:42, Big Daddy uttered for posterity:

> James Hilins wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.
>>
>> He describes it this way,
>>
>> ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the additive
>> is
>> put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of additive
>> can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !
>
> Not true. Big companies have their direct suppliers. Small ones buy on the
> open market.

In any given area, the stations will be buying their gasoline
stock from a limited number of local refineries, a pipeline
terminus, off a boat, or off bulk trucked. From a refinery,
pipeline, generic boat, the gasoline is moved and traded as
base stock, not mixed final product. For trucked gasoline
it may either be base stock or mixed final, depending on
where the equipment to meter the additives exists--usually
at a distribution terminal.

Normally the station will by from one refinery's output, but
if anything at all disrupts that flow [say the refinery shuts
down a towerset for maintenance] the station just picks up
the base stock from somewhere else. More correctly, the
station buys from its brand named local distribution point
which then buys base stock elsewhere...

Name brand stations in any local area will all have the same
mix of base stock and local additives.... with a few exceptions
due to local conditions such as californias insane markets.
e.g. the local Valero refinery will sell California Air
Resources Board, aka CARB gasoline stocks to anyone, making
it simpler to comply with local smog laws.

Re: What kind of gas?
 

Approximately 9/6/03 20:42, Big Daddy uttered for posterity:

> James Hilins wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who's a truck driver for delivering gas.
>>
>> He describes it this way,
>>
>> ALL BRANDS come from the same tanker, once the truck is full the additive
>> is
>> put in to make it (texico, exxon, or whatever). The amount of additive
>> can't amount to more than a few drops per tank full of gas !
>
> Not true. Big companies have their direct suppliers. Small ones buy on the
> open market.

In any given area, the stations will be buying their gasoline
stock from a limited number of local refineries, a pipeline
terminus, off a boat, or off bulk trucked. From a refinery,
pipeline, generic boat, the gasoline is moved and traded as
base stock, not mixed final product. For trucked gasoline
it may either be base stock or mixed final, depending on
where the equipment to meter the additives exists--usually
at a distribution terminal.

Normally the station will by from one refinery's output, but
if anything at all disrupts that flow [say the refinery shuts
down a towerset for maintenance] the station just picks up
the base stock from somewhere else. More correctly, the
station buys from its brand named local distribution point
which then buys base stock elsewhere...

Name brand stations in any local area will all have the same
mix of base stock and local additives.... with a few exceptions
due to local conditions such as californias insane markets.
e.g. the local Valero refinery will sell California Air
Resources Board, aka CARB gasoline stocks to anyone, making
it simpler to comply with local smog laws.