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Bulletsnbrains 04-01-2004 04:04 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Hey Sleestak,

I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new or
used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running right.
Dirty passages caused my problems.

When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set the
idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the vac
hoses hooked up.

For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm

Luck, Brian

"Sleestak" <here-here@there.net> wrote in message
news:slrnc6lvl7.7i3.here-here@james.box.net...
>
> Some may remember that I recently posted a question regarding getting my
> new weber carb to idle at a decent speed, without overturning the idle
> speed screw. I got a couple of new idle jets -- bigger -- to play with
> also. Anyway, checked vacuum and it is holding strong, 20 psi at idle.
> New plugs, wires, cap, rotor. Nutter bypass. The idle was around 650
> with the old Carter carb installed. Timing 9 degrees. Anyway, I talked
> to the Weber support people again today, and the guy told me that idle
> of 450 to 550 on a jeep is normal, and that you can't get the idle any
> higher than that without overturning the idle speed screw and taking the
> carb out of the idle circuit. 450 rpms (I'm actually closer to 400)
> at idle seems pretty low to me, and causes the Jeep to idle prettly badly.
> Any thoughts... thanks.
>
>
> --
> Sleestak
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Sleestak 04-01-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hey Sleestak,
>
> I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
>
> When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> vac hoses hooked up.
>
> For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm


Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
idle speed screw?

Thanks again.

Sleestak 04-01-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hey Sleestak,
>
> I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
>
> When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> vac hoses hooked up.
>
> For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm


Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
idle speed screw?

Thanks again.

Sleestak 04-01-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hey Sleestak,
>
> I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
>
> When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> vac hoses hooked up.
>
> For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm


Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
idle speed screw?

Thanks again.

Sleestak 04-01-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hey Sleestak,
>
> I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
>
> When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> vac hoses hooked up.
>
> For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm


Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
idle speed screw?

Thanks again.

Mike Romain 04-01-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Sleestak wrote:
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hey Sleestak,
> >
> > I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> > or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> > right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
> >
> > When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> > disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> > the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> > vac hoses hooked up.
> >
> > For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> > install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> > http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm

>
> Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
> try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
> idle speed screw?
>
> Thanks again.


You are worrying too much about what some $5.00 per hour sales drone
told you...

If you read the link above it tells you how to set up the carb.

I warns that the idle will be slow like a tractor at the 'base line'
setting of 1.5 turns in on the idle speed screw and you are to turn this
screw 'after' setting up the mix screw to get it up to 7 to 900 rpm for
a stable idle.

No 2 engines will have the same setting on the idle speed screw or they
wouldn't need a screw there to start with.

I see the identical carbs set up with wildly varying screw settings.
These settings change after a carb kit too.

That above site also tells you what jet size you need according to where
your mix screw sets.

This setting of the mix screw makes a radical difference in the idle
speed screw setting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-01-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Sleestak wrote:
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hey Sleestak,
> >
> > I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> > or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> > right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
> >
> > When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> > disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> > the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> > vac hoses hooked up.
> >
> > For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> > install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> > http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm

>
> Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
> try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
> idle speed screw?
>
> Thanks again.


You are worrying too much about what some $5.00 per hour sales drone
told you...

If you read the link above it tells you how to set up the carb.

I warns that the idle will be slow like a tractor at the 'base line'
setting of 1.5 turns in on the idle speed screw and you are to turn this
screw 'after' setting up the mix screw to get it up to 7 to 900 rpm for
a stable idle.

No 2 engines will have the same setting on the idle speed screw or they
wouldn't need a screw there to start with.

I see the identical carbs set up with wildly varying screw settings.
These settings change after a carb kit too.

That above site also tells you what jet size you need according to where
your mix screw sets.

This setting of the mix screw makes a radical difference in the idle
speed screw setting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-01-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Sleestak wrote:
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hey Sleestak,
> >
> > I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> > or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> > right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
> >
> > When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> > disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> > the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> > vac hoses hooked up.
> >
> > For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> > install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> > http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm

>
> Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
> try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
> idle speed screw?
>
> Thanks again.


You are worrying too much about what some $5.00 per hour sales drone
told you...

If you read the link above it tells you how to set up the carb.

I warns that the idle will be slow like a tractor at the 'base line'
setting of 1.5 turns in on the idle speed screw and you are to turn this
screw 'after' setting up the mix screw to get it up to 7 to 900 rpm for
a stable idle.

No 2 engines will have the same setting on the idle speed screw or they
wouldn't need a screw there to start with.

I see the identical carbs set up with wildly varying screw settings.
These settings change after a carb kit too.

That above site also tells you what jet size you need according to where
your mix screw sets.

This setting of the mix screw makes a radical difference in the idle
speed screw setting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-01-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Sleestak wrote:
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hey Sleestak,
> >
> > I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours new
> > or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine running
> > right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
> >
> > When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
> > disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then set
> > the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range with the
> > vac hoses hooked up.
> >
> > For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
> > install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
> > http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm

>
> Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net. I'll
> try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
> idle speed screw?
>
> Thanks again.


You are worrying too much about what some $5.00 per hour sales drone
told you...

If you read the link above it tells you how to set up the carb.

I warns that the idle will be slow like a tractor at the 'base line'
setting of 1.5 turns in on the idle speed screw and you are to turn this
screw 'after' setting up the mix screw to get it up to 7 to 900 rpm for
a stable idle.

No 2 engines will have the same setting on the idle speed screw or they
wouldn't need a screw there to start with.

I see the identical carbs set up with wildly varying screw settings.
These settings change after a carb kit too.

That above site also tells you what jet size you need according to where
your mix screw sets.

This setting of the mix screw makes a radical difference in the idle
speed screw setting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Sleestak 04-01-2004 11:35 AM

Re: Weber Carb Revisited
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> Sleestak wrote:
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Sleestak,
>> >
>> > I have had trouble with my Weber in the past also. Did you buy yours
>> > new or used? I had to rebuild mine(bought used) before I had mine
>> > running right. Dirty passages caused my problems.
>> >
>> > When you set up the idle speed, make sure the vacuum secondary is
>> > disconnected from the carb and distributor and plugged on both. Then
>> > set the idle to 450-500rpm. It should fall into the 700-900 rpm range
>> > with the vac hoses hooked up.
>> >
>> > For those who want to check on the Weber design, please read the
>> > install/setup instruction on Weber's site for more info.
>> >

http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Tec...lean_best_.htm
>>
>> Thanks for the info Brian. I bought this carb new from www.carbs.net.
>> I'll
>> try setting it up with the vacs plugged. btw, how far in do you run your
>> idle speed screw?
>>
>> Thanks again.

>
> You are worrying too much about what some $5.00 per hour sales drone
> told you...
>
> If you read the link above it tells you how to set up the carb.
>
> I warns that the idle will be slow like a tractor at the 'base line'
> setting of 1.5 turns in on the idle speed screw and you are to turn this
> screw 'after' setting up the mix screw to get it up to 7 to 900 rpm for
> a stable idle.
>
> No 2 engines will have the same setting on the idle speed screw or they
> wouldn't need a screw there to start with.
>
> I see the identical carbs set up with wildly varying screw settings.
> These settings change after a carb kit too.
>
> That above site also tells you what jet size you need according to where
> your mix screw sets.
>
> This setting of the mix screw makes a radical difference in the idle
> speed screw setting.



Thanks again Mike. I think you are absolutly correct, and I am going to
stop worrying about this idle screw business. Now for more important
matters, need to pick a gear ratio and lockers for the axles... 33x12.5
Dana44 rear, Dana 30 front, 258, t-5. Thinking of a Powertrax no-slip for
the rear, but can't decide on the front -- with 4.56 gears.



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