Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

Thanks, Earle!

Any ideas on what are the typical costs associated with fixing a
refrigeration leak?

Pete

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bec1qg$3glg6$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> "Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection and
> possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff like
> blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt tension
> check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual problem
> during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get the real
> problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is
likely.
>
> Earle
>
> "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> > The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore. The
local
> > Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the dealer
wants
> > $99.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold
anymore,
> > and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely fix
it?
> > (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Pete
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

"Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection and
possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff like
blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt tension
check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual problem
during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get the real
problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is likely.

Earle

"Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore. The local
> Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the dealer wants
> $99.
>
> Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold anymore,
> and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely fix it?
> (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
>
> Thanks!
> Pete
>
>

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

Purge and refill of the system is one of the big ones. I have been charged
$50 a pound for refrigerant, which is one reason I decided to get my own AC
tools and do the work myself. Of course your system will be empty and they
will need to sell you all new refrigerant. ;o) You can determine before
hand how many pounds of refrigerant are required to fill your system. There
should be a sticker under the hood with this information. Labor is roughly
$50 to $100 an hour, depending on your local area. O-rings are a typical
source of leaks. These are real cheap and probably five to ten minutes to
replace, each. If there is a "big leak" such as the compressor seals or a
cracked evaporator or condenser, look to pay a lot more. Sorry I couldn't
be more definite, but there are a lot of uncertainties involved in this
business.

Earle

"Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
message news:vgj2tmiotvdg17@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks, Earle!
>
> Any ideas on what are the typical costs associated with fixing a
> refrigeration leak?
>
> Pete
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bec1qg$3glg6$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > "Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection and
> > possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff like
> > blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt
tension
> > check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual problem
> > during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get the
real
> > problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is
> likely.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> > message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> > > The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore. The
> local
> > > Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the dealer
> wants
> > > $99.
> > >
> > > Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold
> anymore,
> > > and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely fix
> it?
> > > (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

'Usually', it is just a loose fitting. You can get a special bubble
solution or use soapy water on a brush to sometimes see the larger ones,
for smaller ones they can add a dye to the AC fluid that will leave a
stain where the leak is.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Pete wrote:
>
> Thanks, Earle!
>
> Any ideas on what are the typical costs associated with fixing a
> refrigeration leak?
>
> Pete
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bec1qg$3glg6$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > "Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection and
> > possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff like
> > blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt tension
> > check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual problem
> > during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get the real
> > problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is
> likely.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> > message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> > > The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore. The
> local
> > > Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the dealer
> wants
> > > $99.
> > >
> > > Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold
> anymore,
> > > and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely fix
> it?
> > > (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

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Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F099F79.BD642637@sympatico.ca...
> 'Usually', it is just a loose fitting. You can get a special bubble
> solution or use soapy water on a brush to sometimes see the larger ones,
> for smaller ones they can add a dye to the AC fluid that will leave a
> stain where the leak is.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pete wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Earle!
> >
> > Any ideas on what are the typical costs associated with fixing a
> > refrigeration leak?
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bec1qg$3glg6$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > > "Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection and
> > > possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff like
> > > blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt
tension
> > > check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual problem
> > > during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get the
real
> > > problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is
> > likely.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> > > message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore. The
> > local
> > > > Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the dealer
> > wants
> > > > $99.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold
> > anymore,
> > > > and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely
fix
> > it?
> > > > (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Pete
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

Wow, where are you guys paying this much for A/C service? My friend does A/C
service in his shop and charges $40 to recharge a system plus $5 a pound for
R134. He does the dye check automatically with any recharge. I know the
dealers charge a fortune for A/C service, but if you find an independent
mechanic they are usually much cheaper, especially to convert the R12
systems to R134. Most of his R134 conversions are done for well under $300.
It does pay to shop around.

Chris


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bec5mp$3dpc0$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> Purge and refill of the system is one of the big ones. I have been
charged
> $50 a pound for refrigerant, which is one reason I decided to get my own
AC
> tools and do the work myself. Of course your system will be empty and
they
> will need to sell you all new refrigerant. ;o) You can determine before
> hand how many pounds of refrigerant are required to fill your system.
There
> should be a sticker under the hood with this information. Labor is
roughly
> $50 to $100 an hour, depending on your local area. O-rings are a typical
> source of leaks. These are real cheap and probably five to ten minutes to
> replace, each. If there is a "big leak" such as the compressor seals or a
> cracked evaporator or condenser, look to pay a lot more. Sorry I couldn't
> be more definite, but there are a lot of uncertainties involved in this
> business.
>
> Earle
>
> "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> message news:vgj2tmiotvdg17@corp.supernews.com...
> > Thanks, Earle!
> >
> > Any ideas on what are the typical costs associated with fixing a
> > refrigeration leak?
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bec1qg$3glg6$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > > "Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection and
> > > possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff like
> > > blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt
> tension
> > > check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual problem
> > > during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get the
> real
> > > problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is
> > likely.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> > > message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore. The
> > local
> > > > Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the dealer
> > wants
> > > > $99.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold
> > anymore,
> > > > and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely
fix
> > it?
> > > > (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Pete
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

That's why I go to independents now, or do the work myself. ;o)

Penske in Durango, CO. Their air conditioning service sucks. The Chevy
dealer in Fort Collins, CO couldn't find the leak in my Suburban's rear air.
When I finally decided to take the cover off myself, there was oil dripping
from the joint...

Earle

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:D4iOa.190795$jT4.3551225@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Wow, where are you guys paying this much for A/C service? My friend does
A/C
> service in his shop and charges $40 to recharge a system plus $5 a pound
for
> R134. He does the dye check automatically with any recharge. I know the
> dealers charge a fortune for A/C service, but if you find an independent
> mechanic they are usually much cheaper, especially to convert the R12
> systems to R134. Most of his R134 conversions are done for well under
$300.
> It does pay to shop around.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bec5mp$3dpc0$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > Purge and refill of the system is one of the big ones. I have been
> charged
> > $50 a pound for refrigerant, which is one reason I decided to get my own
> AC
> > tools and do the work myself. Of course your system will be empty and
> they
> > will need to sell you all new refrigerant. ;o) You can determine before
> > hand how many pounds of refrigerant are required to fill your system.
> There
> > should be a sticker under the hood with this information. Labor is
> roughly
> > $50 to $100 an hour, depending on your local area. O-rings are a
typical
> > source of leaks. These are real cheap and probably five to ten minutes
to
> > replace, each. If there is a "big leak" such as the compressor seals or
a
> > cracked evaporator or condenser, look to pay a lot more. Sorry I
couldn't
> > be more definite, but there are a lot of uncertainties involved in this
> > business.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote in
> > message news:vgj2tmiotvdg17@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Thanks, Earle!
> > >
> > > Any ideas on what are the typical costs associated with fixing a
> > > refrigeration leak?
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bec1qg$3glg6$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > "Service" sounds like a fixed charge for doing minimal inspection
and
> > > > possibly cleaning of your system. This might include easy stuff
like
> > > > blowing dust out of the evaporator or condenser, maybe even a belt
> > tension
> > > > check. If the mechanic is good, he might diagnose your actual
problem
> > > > during the base service. Then, you will have to pay extra to get
the
> > real
> > > > problem fixed. Talk to them about what all is included. A leak is
> > > likely.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Pete" <pistoljitsuAThotmail@lookatTheUsernameToSendMail. com> wrote
in
> > > > message news:vgj2bigilha123@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > The air conditioning in my '98 TJ just plain isn't cold anymore.
The
> > > local
> > > > > Valvoline does "air conditioning service" for around $60, the
dealer
> > > wants
> > > > > $99.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone had experience with air conditioning not blowing cold
> > > anymore,
> > > > > and can give a guess as to whether or not "servicing" will likely
> fix
> > > it?
> > > > > (Or does it sound more like there may be a leak in the system?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Pete
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Valvoline air conditioning service?
 

We'd probably still have R-12 if it wasn't for those f**kin' "O"
rings.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
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>
> Earle