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Re: Tire Rotation
Umm, correct me if I am wrong here, but aren't all these folks in the
business of 'selling' you new tires? Pretty hard on their bottom line if your tires don't wear out isn't it..... LOL! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's bllsht wrote: > > Goodyear and Bridgestone/Firestone as well. > > In message <fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote: > > >The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends > >cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of > >how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with > >BFG having a similar animation. > > > >Jerry > > > >J Strickland wrote: > >> Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest that > >> not crossing them is a bad thing. > >> > >> There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific reason > >> not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is > >> nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the right > >> tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that rotating > >> tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct way to > >> rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and > >> he'll get through his life just fine. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message > >> news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com... > >> > >>>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them. > >>> > >>>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the right > >>>>tires on the right side. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET.. . > >>>> > >>>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation. > >>>>>The > >>>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality > >>>>>tires. > >>>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>. > >>>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) > >>>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic > >>>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat > >>>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. > >>>>>. > >>>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@cox.net... > >>>>> > >>>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm > >>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > >>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Nathan Otis wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs > >>>>>>>clockwise > >>>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of > >>>>>>>seperation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke) > >>>>>>>n. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> |
Re: Tire Rotation
If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire
manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend rotating them at all. But they do. You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? Get real. In message <431DA68B.C025FBED@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote: >Umm, correct me if I am wrong here, but aren't all these folks in the >business of 'selling' you new tires? > >Pretty hard on their bottom line if your tires don't wear out isn't >it..... > >LOL! > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >bllsht wrote: >> >> Goodyear and Bridgestone/Firestone as well. >> >> In message <fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote: >> >> >The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends >> >cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of >> >how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with >> >BFG having a similar animation. >> > >> >Jerry >> > >> >J Strickland wrote: >> >> Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest that >> >> not crossing them is a bad thing. >> >> >> >> There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific reason >> >> not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is >> >> nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the right >> >> tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that rotating >> >> tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct way to >> >> rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and >> >> he'll get through his life just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message >> >> news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com... >> >> >> >>>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them. >> >>> >> >>>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the right >> >>>>tires on the right side. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>>> >> >>>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation. >> >>>>>The >> >>>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality >> >>>>>tires. >> >>>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>-- >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) >> >>>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic >> >>>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat >> >>>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@cox.net... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm >> >>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> >>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Nathan Otis wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs >> >>>>>>>clockwise >> >>>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of >> >>>>>>>seperation. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke) >> >>>>>>>n. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> |
Re: Tire Rotation
If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire
manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend rotating them at all. But they do. You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? Get real. In message <431DA68B.C025FBED@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote: >Umm, correct me if I am wrong here, but aren't all these folks in the >business of 'selling' you new tires? > >Pretty hard on their bottom line if your tires don't wear out isn't >it..... > >LOL! > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >bllsht wrote: >> >> Goodyear and Bridgestone/Firestone as well. >> >> In message <fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote: >> >> >The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends >> >cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of >> >how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with >> >BFG having a similar animation. >> > >> >Jerry >> > >> >J Strickland wrote: >> >> Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest that >> >> not crossing them is a bad thing. >> >> >> >> There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific reason >> >> not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is >> >> nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the right >> >> tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that rotating >> >> tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct way to >> >> rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and >> >> he'll get through his life just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message >> >> news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com... >> >> >> >>>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them. >> >>> >> >>>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the right >> >>>>tires on the right side. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>>> >> >>>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation. >> >>>>>The >> >>>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality >> >>>>>tires. >> >>>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>-- >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) >> >>>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic >> >>>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat >> >>>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@cox.net... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm >> >>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> >>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Nathan Otis wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs >> >>>>>>>clockwise >> >>>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of >> >>>>>>>seperation. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke) >> >>>>>>>n. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> |
Re: Tire Rotation
If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire
manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend rotating them at all. But they do. You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? Get real. In message <431DA68B.C025FBED@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote: >Umm, correct me if I am wrong here, but aren't all these folks in the >business of 'selling' you new tires? > >Pretty hard on their bottom line if your tires don't wear out isn't >it..... > >LOL! > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >bllsht wrote: >> >> Goodyear and Bridgestone/Firestone as well. >> >> In message <fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote: >> >> >The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends >> >cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of >> >how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with >> >BFG having a similar animation. >> > >> >Jerry >> > >> >J Strickland wrote: >> >> Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest that >> >> not crossing them is a bad thing. >> >> >> >> There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific reason >> >> not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is >> >> nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the right >> >> tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that rotating >> >> tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct way to >> >> rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and >> >> he'll get through his life just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message >> >> news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com... >> >> >> >>>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them. >> >>> >> >>>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the right >> >>>>tires on the right side. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>>> >> >>>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation. >> >>>>>The >> >>>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality >> >>>>>tires. >> >>>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>-- >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) >> >>>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic >> >>>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat >> >>>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@cox.net... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm >> >>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> >>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Nathan Otis wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs >> >>>>>>>clockwise >> >>>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of >> >>>>>>>seperation. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke) >> >>>>>>>n. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> |
Re: Tire Rotation
If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire
manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend rotating them at all. But they do. You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? Get real. In message <431DA68B.C025FBED@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote: >Umm, correct me if I am wrong here, but aren't all these folks in the >business of 'selling' you new tires? > >Pretty hard on their bottom line if your tires don't wear out isn't >it..... > >LOL! > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >bllsht wrote: >> >> Goodyear and Bridgestone/Firestone as well. >> >> In message <fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote: >> >> >The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends >> >cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of >> >how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with >> >BFG having a similar animation. >> > >> >Jerry >> > >> >J Strickland wrote: >> >> Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest that >> >> not crossing them is a bad thing. >> >> >> >> There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific reason >> >> not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is >> >> nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the right >> >> tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that rotating >> >> tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct way to >> >> rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and >> >> he'll get through his life just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message >> >> news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com... >> >> >> >>>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them. >> >>> >> >>>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the right >> >>>>tires on the right side. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>>> >> >>>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation. >> >>>>>The >> >>>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality >> >>>>>tires. >> >>>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>-- >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) >> >>>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic >> >>>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat >> >>>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. >> >>>>>. >> >>>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@cox.net... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm >> >>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> >>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Nathan Otis wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs >> >>>>>>>clockwise >> >>>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of >> >>>>>>>seperation. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke) >> >>>>>>>n. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> |
Re: Tire Rotation
I can tell you for a fact that I turned around the best of the two
remaining BF Goodrich A/T KO to put two new tires on the same axle, and had tread separation/blow out within three thousand miles. One exception to your reversing tires is if the rims are off set like most Real Jeeps are. So I will never do that again. You may continue to do that to your Wannabee, I don't care if you kill some one. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ bllsht wrote: > > If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire > manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend > rotating them at all. But they do. > > You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you > really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire > failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? > > Get real. |
Re: Tire Rotation
I can tell you for a fact that I turned around the best of the two
remaining BF Goodrich A/T KO to put two new tires on the same axle, and had tread separation/blow out within three thousand miles. One exception to your reversing tires is if the rims are off set like most Real Jeeps are. So I will never do that again. You may continue to do that to your Wannabee, I don't care if you kill some one. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ bllsht wrote: > > If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire > manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend > rotating them at all. But they do. > > You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you > really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire > failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? > > Get real. |
Re: Tire Rotation
I can tell you for a fact that I turned around the best of the two
remaining BF Goodrich A/T KO to put two new tires on the same axle, and had tread separation/blow out within three thousand miles. One exception to your reversing tires is if the rims are off set like most Real Jeeps are. So I will never do that again. You may continue to do that to your Wannabee, I don't care if you kill some one. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ bllsht wrote: > > If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire > manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend > rotating them at all. But they do. > > You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you > really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire > failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? > > Get real. |
Re: Tire Rotation
I can tell you for a fact that I turned around the best of the two
remaining BF Goodrich A/T KO to put two new tires on the same axle, and had tread separation/blow out within three thousand miles. One exception to your reversing tires is if the rims are off set like most Real Jeeps are. So I will never do that again. You may continue to do that to your Wannabee, I don't care if you kill some one. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ bllsht wrote: > > If your attention span was longer than 2 seconds, you'd understand that if tire > manufacturers wanted your tires to wear out quickly, they wouldn't recommend > rotating them at all. But they do. > > You are the one who said not to cross them because they will separate. Do you > really think they'd recommend crossing them if it posed a risk of serious tire > failure? Did you sleep through the Ford/Firestone debacle? > > Get real. |
Re: Tire Rotation
The exception is in the last paragraph of:
http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm > > I can tell you for a fact that I turned around the best of the two > remaining BF Goodrich A/T KO to put two new tires on the same axle, and > had tread separation/blow out within three thousand miles. One exception > to your reversing tires is if the rims are off set like most Real Jeeps > are. So I will never do that again. You may continue to do that to your > Wannabee, I don't care if you kill some one. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ |
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