Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

In article <3F4A5BB9.42BAB85A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> It's the engine rev limiter I was thinking of, I think the six is
>set at about forty six hundred.

TJ's I6 is set at about 5250. Found that out a few weeks ago. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?

Brian
88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?

Brian
88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Sounds like you have it nailed.

I get the best gas mileage on the highway running at 2300 rpm in 4th at
70 mph.

I basically have no use for 5th with 33" tires. 5th still works and
still has power, but it lugs the engine and because of that kills the
mileage.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
> about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
> well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
> or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
> day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
> lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Sounds like you have it nailed.

I get the best gas mileage on the highway running at 2300 rpm in 4th at
70 mph.

I basically have no use for 5th with 33" tires. 5th still works and
still has power, but it lugs the engine and because of that kills the
mileage.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
> about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
> well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
> or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
> day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
> lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hi Brian,
All I can find on the internet for the Carter BBD flow specs is
between 200 and 220 Cubic Feet per Minute. If you plug those figures in
at: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp you'll find
you can't be pulling at 4100 RPM, just revving for the next gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
> about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
> well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
> or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
> day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
> lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hi Brian,
All I can find on the internet for the Carter BBD flow specs is
between 200 and 220 Cubic Feet per Minute. If you plug those figures in
at: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp you'll find
you can't be pulling at 4100 RPM, just revving for the next gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
> about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
> well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
> or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
> day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
> lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

I have The BBD, no computer, a stock manifold and a straight pipe with a
Dynomax 'super turbo' muffler , no cat (not required on a CJ in Canada),
an Accel 'SuperCoil' and have wicked pull to 4500 where it just stops.

No wind up for a shift, just a plain flat wall stop within about a 50
rpm band. A governor couldn't work better....

It squawked nice going into second at 45K and likely would have chirped
3rd, but I backed off. I will try it again when I have room just to see
where 3rd pulls out. I already know 4th will wrap the spedo.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
> All I can find on the internet for the Carter BBD flow specs is
> between 200 and 220 Cubic Feet per Minute. If you plug those figures in
> at: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp you'll find
> you can't be pulling at 4100 RPM, just revving for the next gear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
> >
> > Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
> > about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
> > well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
> > or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
> > day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
> > lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?
> >
> > Brian
> > 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

I have The BBD, no computer, a stock manifold and a straight pipe with a
Dynomax 'super turbo' muffler , no cat (not required on a CJ in Canada),
an Accel 'SuperCoil' and have wicked pull to 4500 where it just stops.

No wind up for a shift, just a plain flat wall stop within about a 50
rpm band. A governor couldn't work better....

It squawked nice going into second at 45K and likely would have chirped
3rd, but I backed off. I will try it again when I have room just to see
where 3rd pulls out. I already know 4th will wrap the spedo.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
> All I can find on the internet for the Carter BBD flow specs is
> between 200 and 220 Cubic Feet per Minute. If you plug those figures in
> at: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp you'll find
> you can't be pulling at 4100 RPM, just revving for the next gear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
> >
> > Is there any real power up that high in the rpm band anyway......I've thought
> > about dumping my carter for the webber but I've got the carter tunned up so
> > well right now. I can pull up to about 4500 in the lower gears...but only 4100
> > or so in 4th....my 5th gear has decent passing speed and can pull the hills all
> > day long around 75.....far cry from when I bought my jeep. I figure my
> > lift/tires are gonna kill all of this on the highway. Would the Webber help?
> >
> > Brian
> > 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Well....I was half correct! I can get 4500 in the lower gears easy but in 4th
all I can muster is around 3500. Sorry for the goof I got a lil key happy. My
computer is disabled and i've got a nice ignition system to boot.

Brian
88YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Well....I was half correct! I can get 4500 in the lower gears easy but in 4th
all I can muster is around 3500. Sorry for the goof I got a lil key happy. My
computer is disabled and i've got a nice ignition system to boot.

Brian
88YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hey Bill

I went to that website and even @ 3k you would need 223....now we can all pull
that. I'd bet money we are all reading RPM's on stock tach's. Lord knows I
am...which makes me look a lil stupid:) I've never had stock tach that was even
close.

Brian
88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hey Bill

I went to that website and even @ 3k you would need 223....now we can all pull
that. I'd bet money we are all reading RPM's on stock tach's. Lord knows I
am...which makes me look a lil stupid:) I've never had stock tach that was even
close.

Brian
88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

My tach (stock) reads the same as my hand tach and the tach on my timing
light.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Hey Bill
>
> I went to that website and even @ 3k you would need 223....now we can all pull
> that. I'd bet money we are all reading RPM's on stock tach's. Lord knows I
> am...which makes me look a lil stupid:) I've never had stock tach that was even
> close.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

My tach (stock) reads the same as my hand tach and the tach on my timing
light.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Hey Bill
>
> I went to that website and even @ 3k you would need 223....now we can all pull
> that. I'd bet money we are all reading RPM's on stock tach's. Lord knows I
> am...which makes me look a lil stupid:) I've never had stock tach that was even
> close.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

That was an unusual truck, most I've driven max. out on the
governor at 62 MPH, except this Kenworth, Cummins with a button, could
do about seventy five: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Man how fast were you hitting when you wound 4th out?
>
> Mine will bury the spedo, but I didn't have a tach when I did it that
> one trip. We just flew across Quebec drafting a semi on that run, never
> dropped below 85 mph. (with his permission via the CB)
>
> Mike

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

That was an unusual truck, most I've driven max. out on the
governor at 62 MPH, except this Kenworth, Cummins with a button, could
do about seventy five: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Man how fast were you hitting when you wound 4th out?
>
> Mine will bury the spedo, but I didn't have a tach when I did it that
> one trip. We just flew across Quebec drafting a semi on that run, never
> dropped below 85 mph. (with his permission via the CB)
>
> Mike

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

The ones that run the Ontario/Quebec corridor usually hold 70+ mph.
There are a few that just fly though.

The dude we were drafting was running empty or real light with an
enclosed trailer.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> That was an unusual truck, most I've driven max. out on the
> governor at 62 MPH, except this Kenworth, Cummins with a button, could
> do about seventy five: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Man how fast were you hitting when you wound 4th out?
> >
> > Mine will bury the spedo, but I didn't have a tach when I did it that
> > one trip. We just flew across Quebec drafting a semi on that run, never
> > dropped below 85 mph. (with his permission via the CB)
> >
> > Mike

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

The ones that run the Ontario/Quebec corridor usually hold 70+ mph.
There are a few that just fly though.

The dude we were drafting was running empty or real light with an
enclosed trailer.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> That was an unusual truck, most I've driven max. out on the
> governor at 62 MPH, except this Kenworth, Cummins with a button, could
> do about seventy five: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Man how fast were you hitting when you wound 4th out?
> >
> > Mine will bury the spedo, but I didn't have a tach when I did it that
> > one trip. We just flew across Quebec drafting a semi on that run, never
> > dropped below 85 mph. (with his permission via the CB)
> >
> > Mike

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Approximately 8/27/03 18:54, Wranglerjeep1 uttered for posterity:

> I just went out and actually watched my tach and here are the results...1st
> gear 4200...2nd and 3rd about 4k....4th I pulled 3800 @ 80 mph....I didn't feel
> luck today so I let off.....5th gear 80mph 2600! As far as how fast i've
> gone...maxed out around 96mph. I know this is F*^$@!G stupid but oh well. I was
> out in the middle of nowhere skipping on a deadbeat and a severe thunderstorm
> blew up to the west of me. I was listening to the storm chasers on my ham and
> it was pretty bad...so down the hammer went.

Next time, let the Tstorm get a bit closer. During the build up
stages, the wind will be blowing into the base of the cloud as
it heads from the LWPO [1] stage into a thunderhead. As the
cloud matures into a BBMF [1] the wind will blow out of the
base of the cloud, and if you are close enough and heading
away, you get a nice tail wind to help you scram.

[1] Little White Puffy One

[2] Big Black M****r F****r

[The technical terms for cumulus as it passes into cumulus
castellatus and then into cumulonimbus and cumulonimbus
mammatus.]

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Approximately 8/27/03 18:54, Wranglerjeep1 uttered for posterity:

> I just went out and actually watched my tach and here are the results...1st
> gear 4200...2nd and 3rd about 4k....4th I pulled 3800 @ 80 mph....I didn't feel
> luck today so I let off.....5th gear 80mph 2600! As far as how fast i've
> gone...maxed out around 96mph. I know this is F*^$@!G stupid but oh well. I was
> out in the middle of nowhere skipping on a deadbeat and a severe thunderstorm
> blew up to the west of me. I was listening to the storm chasers on my ham and
> it was pretty bad...so down the hammer went.

Next time, let the Tstorm get a bit closer. During the build up
stages, the wind will be blowing into the base of the cloud as
it heads from the LWPO [1] stage into a thunderhead. As the
cloud matures into a BBMF [1] the wind will blow out of the
base of the cloud, and if you are close enough and heading
away, you get a nice tail wind to help you scram.

[1] Little White Puffy One

[2] Big Black M****r F****r

[The technical terms for cumulus as it passes into cumulus
castellatus and then into cumulonimbus and cumulonimbus
mammatus.]

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Kind of reminds me of the Redneck's famous last words, "hey, watch
this."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> I just went out and actually watched my tach and here are the results...1st
> gear 4200...2nd and 3rd about 4k....4th I pulled 3800 @ 80 mph....I didn't feel
> luck today so I let off.....5th gear 80mph 2600! As far as how fast i've
> gone...maxed out around 96mph. I know this is F*^$@!G stupid but oh well. I was
> out in the middle of nowhere skipping on a deadbeat and a severe thunderstorm
> blew up to the west of me. I was listening to the storm chasers on my ham and
> it was pretty bad...so down the hammer went.
>
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Kind of reminds me of the Redneck's famous last words, "hey, watch
this."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> I just went out and actually watched my tach and here are the results...1st
> gear 4200...2nd and 3rd about 4k....4th I pulled 3800 @ 80 mph....I didn't feel
> luck today so I let off.....5th gear 80mph 2600! As far as how fast i've
> gone...maxed out around 96mph. I know this is F*^$@!G stupid but oh well. I was
> out in the middle of nowhere skipping on a deadbeat and a severe thunderstorm
> blew up to the west of me. I was listening to the storm chasers on my ham and
> it was pretty bad...so down the hammer went.
>
> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

I believe that is "Hey y'all watch this..."

Approximately 8/27/03 19:48, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> Kind of reminds me of the Redneck's famous last words, "hey, watch
> this."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>>
>> I just went out and actually watched my tach and here are the results...1st
>> gear 4200...2nd and 3rd about 4k....4th I pulled 3800 @ 80 mph....I didn't feel
>> luck today so I let off.....5th gear 80mph 2600! As far as how fast i've
>> gone...maxed out around 96mph. I know this is F*^$@!G stupid but oh well. I was
>> out in the middle of nowhere skipping on a deadbeat and a severe thunderstorm
>> blew up to the west of me. I was listening to the storm chasers on my ham and
>> it was pretty bad...so down the hammer went.
>>
>> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

I believe that is "Hey y'all watch this..."

Approximately 8/27/03 19:48, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> Kind of reminds me of the Redneck's famous last words, "hey, watch
> this."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>>
>> I just went out and actually watched my tach and here are the results...1st
>> gear 4200...2nd and 3rd about 4k....4th I pulled 3800 @ 80 mph....I didn't feel
>> luck today so I let off.....5th gear 80mph 2600! As far as how fast i've
>> gone...maxed out around 96mph. I know this is F*^$@!G stupid but oh well. I was
>> out in the middle of nowhere skipping on a deadbeat and a severe thunderstorm
>> blew up to the west of me. I was listening to the storm chasers on my ham and
>> it was pretty bad...so down the hammer went.
>>
>> 88 YJ

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:57:18 -0700, Lon Stowell
<lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

> I believe that is "Hey y'all watch this..."

Nah, that's "Hey ya'll...hold my beer and watch this ----..."


--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:57:18 -0700, Lon Stowell
<lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

> I believe that is "Hey y'all watch this..."

Nah, that's "Hey ya'll...hold my beer and watch this ----..."


--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM