Re: OT texas help
 

In article <wKGcb.429999$Oz4.226729@rwcrnsc54>,
Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:

> Approximately 9/25/03 07:05, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
>
> > In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> > "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jerry
> >
> > Go to Montana, Jerry.
>
> Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
> El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
> considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
> has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
> by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
> hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
> worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
> truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
> it happens to be on fire at the time.
>
> El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
> have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
> It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
> nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
> it...
>

I live on a ranch in South Texas, between Corpus and San Antonio. I
also have a place out between Sanderson and Del Rio, near Dryden. I have
plenty of four-wheeling opportunities from the Piney woods to the Hill
Country, of central Texas ,to the Big Bend area and on down to the Gulf
coast. Palo Duro Canyon and Black Gap Wildlife Managment area to
Kickapoo Caverns State Park and up near Ft. Hood. I go wheeling in
Mexico, Colorado and New Mexico. Texas has it, for me anyways, I
wouldn't live anywhere else, I'm seventh generation native. Montana may
have the bears and elk, but I hunt whitetail and turkeys on my own land
and Muleys out at Dryden. Right now it's dove season, LOVE IT! Last
night after my son's soccer practice in town, we came across a nice
black feral pig on our back road. But, alas, I was unarmed or we would
have had pork soon. Deep sea fishing in the Gulf is unmatched, plus all
the FRESH jumbo shrimp one can handle. My 10 year old caught a 15 pound
King Mackeral a couple weeks back off the coast of Port Aransas, he was
thrilled. The freshwater fishing is also wonderful, you could spend a
lifetime boating all the lakes in Texas. We canoe the Guadelupe and
flyfish near New Braunfels for Trout. The bigmouth bass are a challenge
too, not to mention the monster cats.

I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.

If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.


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Re: OT texas help
 

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Re: OT texas help
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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Re: OT texas help
 

Approximately 9/25/03 12:20, Jeepers uttered for posterity:


> I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
> home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
>
> If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
> take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
> bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.

I wasn't meaning to disparage El Paso, I loved my time down there.
It is just that I also been in Montana a lot, and between the
two locations, the downside to Montana is mainly in the
winter when you freeze your manhood off... And some folks
don't appreciate the beauty of the mountain desert areas
as much as I do.

Re: OT texas help
 

Approximately 9/25/03 12:20, Jeepers uttered for posterity:


> I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
> home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
>
> If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
> take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
> bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.

I wasn't meaning to disparage El Paso, I loved my time down there.
It is just that I also been in Montana a lot, and between the
two locations, the downside to Montana is mainly in the
winter when you freeze your manhood off... And some folks
don't appreciate the beauty of the mountain desert areas
as much as I do.

Re: OT texas help
 

In article <IkHcb.431448$cF.134451@rwcrnsc53>,
Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:

> Approximately 9/25/03 12:20, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
>
>
> > I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
> > home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
> >
> > If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
> > take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
> > bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.
>
> I wasn't meaning to disparage El Paso, I loved my time down there.
> It is just that I also been in Montana a lot, and between the
> two locations, the downside to Montana is mainly in the
> winter when you freeze your manhood off... And some folks
> don't appreciate the beauty of the mountain desert areas
> as much as I do.
>

No. Disparage El Paso, it deserves it. Dirty, dry, middle of no where.
Interesting, yes - paradise, no. Gateway to Mexico and stopover to
California.


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Re: OT texas help
 

In article <IkHcb.431448$cF.134451@rwcrnsc53>,
Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:

> Approximately 9/25/03 12:20, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
>
>
> > I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
> > home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
> >
> > If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
> > take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
> > bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.
>
> I wasn't meaning to disparage El Paso, I loved my time down there.
> It is just that I also been in Montana a lot, and between the
> two locations, the downside to Montana is mainly in the
> winter when you freeze your manhood off... And some folks
> don't appreciate the beauty of the mountain desert areas
> as much as I do.
>

No. Disparage El Paso, it deserves it. Dirty, dry, middle of no where.
Interesting, yes - paradise, no. Gateway to Mexico and stopover to
California.


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Re: OT texas help
 

I once veered to the north east from El Passo to travel to the
Carlsbad Caverns didn't see mountains in that direction, of course, I
was driving a Ford, and I'm used to California where we are either going
straight up or down as we have the highest and lowest points in the
lower 48 within fifty miles of each other:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001792.html
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Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> I see no contradiction. I-10 comes in from the northwest
> and goes out on the east southeast. Now if you were an
> old fart with bad glasses and extremely nearsighted or
> always went thru in a heavy wind storm, perhaps I can see
> how you could miss looking almost directly in front of
> you [coming in from the west] and off to the right a
> bit at the Franklin Mountains and Ranger Peak. And as you
> head east, you are indeed heading into the flaaaaaaat.
> And in a truck, you probably wouldn't be all that welcome
> trying to cruise from Robinson street to Scenic Drive to
> Alabama along the edge of the Franklin mts. And even on
> the run from Las Cruces to El Paso on !-10, I guess if
> you are old and blind you could probably miss the Organ
> Mountains since they are a ways off in the distance on
> highway 70. And you wouldn't have gone east on Hwy 62 to
> the Hueco Mountains just directly east of town. And heading
> north-northeast along hwy 54 it is pretty flat until you
> get near the Jarilla Mts, although you can see the Franklins
> off to the left.
>
> But yeah, I can see how a trucker just drivin thru might
> get the false impression that El Paso is completely flat.

Re: OT texas help
 

I once veered to the north east from El Passo to travel to the
Carlsbad Caverns didn't see mountains in that direction, of course, I
was driving a Ford, and I'm used to California where we are either going
straight up or down as we have the highest and lowest points in the
lower 48 within fifty miles of each other:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001792.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> I see no contradiction. I-10 comes in from the northwest
> and goes out on the east southeast. Now if you were an
> old fart with bad glasses and extremely nearsighted or
> always went thru in a heavy wind storm, perhaps I can see
> how you could miss looking almost directly in front of
> you [coming in from the west] and off to the right a
> bit at the Franklin Mountains and Ranger Peak. And as you
> head east, you are indeed heading into the flaaaaaaat.
> And in a truck, you probably wouldn't be all that welcome
> trying to cruise from Robinson street to Scenic Drive to
> Alabama along the edge of the Franklin mts. And even on
> the run from Las Cruces to El Paso on !-10, I guess if
> you are old and blind you could probably miss the Organ
> Mountains since they are a ways off in the distance on
> highway 70. And you wouldn't have gone east on Hwy 62 to
> the Hueco Mountains just directly east of town. And heading
> north-northeast along hwy 54 it is pretty flat until you
> get near the Jarilla Mts, although you can see the Franklins
> off to the left.
>
> But yeah, I can see how a trucker just drivin thru might
> get the false impression that El Paso is completely flat.

Re: OT texas help
 

Approximately 9/25/03 12:31, Jeepers uttered for posterity:

> In article <IkHcb.431448$cF.134451@rwcrnsc53>,
> Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
>
>> Approximately 9/25/03 12:20, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
>>
>>
>> > I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
>> > home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
>> >
>> > If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
>> > take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
>> > bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.
>>
>> I wasn't meaning to disparage El Paso, I loved my time down there.
>> It is just that I also been in Montana a lot, and between the
>> two locations, the downside to Montana is mainly in the
>> winter when you freeze your manhood off... And some folks
>> don't appreciate the beauty of the mountain desert areas
>> as much as I do.
>>
>
> No. Disparage El Paso, it deserves it. Dirty, dry, middle of no where.
> Interesting, yes - paradise, no. Gateway to Mexico and stopover to
> California.

Couldn't even get laid in Jaurez, huh?

Like I said, I loved it. But then I've loved a lot of
different areas, reserving the armpit designation for a
very very few where I moved away rapidly.