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Jerry Bransford 07-03-2003 08:46 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
The 4Hi setting is one of the two part-time settings (4Hi and 4Lo) and
neither of those two setting should be used on the street. Only the one
labeled 4FullTime (4Full?) should be used on the street... and then it can
be used on the street as much as you like, or full-time if you like...
though I see no need to run it unless the weather is bad and the streets are
a little slick.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:KGKdnVFhsJvHD5miXTWJgA@comcast.com...
> My "new" Grand Wagoneer (1990) has the "Selectrac" xfer case. According

to
> the owners manual, you can use 4hi on pavement. Is there some reason why
> you shouldn't use 4hi all the time or, at least, for extended periods of
> time? I'm used to Command Trac, so I'm still learning about Selectrac.
> Thanx
> TJim
> 98TJ SE
> 90 SJ Grand Wagoneer
>
>




TJim 07-04-2003 04:40 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
Jerry, Mine's from 1990 (I forget the model right now) and it doesn't have a
4hi part time setting. You can put it into 2wd, 4hi full time, or 4lo part
time. (I wish it *did* have a 4hi part time setting like my TJ does)
I just couldn't see how there would be any more gas usage or wear by having
it in part time 4hi, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by the
motor vs. 2wd, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by the wheels
(through the street from the back diff and driveshaft which are driven by
the engine...)
Seems like the engine is doing the same work (maybe even slightly less) in
4wd full time as in 2wd.
TJim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:J74Na.117825$hd6.98172@fed1read05...
> The 4Hi setting is one of the two part-time settings (4Hi and 4Lo) and
> neither of those two setting should be used on the street. Only the one
> labeled 4FullTime (4Full?) should be used on the street... and then it can
> be used on the street as much as you like, or full-time if you like...
> though I see no need to run it unless the weather is bad and the streets

are
> a little slick.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:KGKdnVFhsJvHD5miXTWJgA@comcast.com...
> > My "new" Grand Wagoneer (1990) has the "Selectrac" xfer case. According

> to
> > the owners manual, you can use 4hi on pavement. Is there some reason

why
> > you shouldn't use 4hi all the time or, at least, for extended periods of
> > time? I'm used to Command Trac, so I'm still learning about Selectrac.
> > Thanx
> > TJim
> > 98TJ SE
> > 90 SJ Grand Wagoneer
> >
> >

>
>




TJim 07-04-2003 04:43 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
OK, I looked it up. It's an NP-229. Does anyone know anything about it?
TJim

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:J74Na.117825$hd6.98172@fed1read05...
> The 4Hi setting is one of the two part-time settings (4Hi and 4Lo) and
> neither of those two setting should be used on the street. Only the one
> labeled 4FullTime (4Full?) should be used on the street... and then it can
> be used on the street as much as you like, or full-time if you like...
> though I see no need to run it unless the weather is bad and the streets

are
> a little slick.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:KGKdnVFhsJvHD5miXTWJgA@comcast.com...
> > My "new" Grand Wagoneer (1990) has the "Selectrac" xfer case. According

> to
> > the owners manual, you can use 4hi on pavement. Is there some reason

why
> > you shouldn't use 4hi all the time or, at least, for extended periods of
> > time? I'm used to Command Trac, so I'm still learning about Selectrac.
> > Thanx
> > TJim
> > 98TJ SE
> > 90 SJ Grand Wagoneer
> >
> >

>
>




TJim 07-04-2003 05:06 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
All right, I can't type what I'm thinking.
I meant to say "full time" not "part time". I have only "full time" 4wd hi
and "part time" 4wd lo ranges.
(Some day I'll learn to proofread my posts!)
TJim

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1YOdnaO0nefZe5iiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> Jerry, Mine's from 1990 (I forget the model right now) and it doesn't have

a
> 4hi part time setting. You can put it into 2wd, 4hi full time, or 4lo

part
> time. (I wish it *did* have a 4hi part time setting like my TJ does)
> I just couldn't see how there would be any more gas usage or wear by

having
> it in part time 4hi, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by the
> motor vs. 2wd, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by the

wheels
> (through the street from the back diff and driveshaft which are driven by
> the engine...)
> Seems like the engine is doing the same work (maybe even slightly less) in
> 4wd full time as in 2wd.
> TJim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:J74Na.117825$hd6.98172@fed1read05...
> > The 4Hi setting is one of the two part-time settings (4Hi and 4Lo) and
> > neither of those two setting should be used on the street. Only the one
> > labeled 4FullTime (4Full?) should be used on the street... and then it

can
> > be used on the street as much as you like, or full-time if you like...
> > though I see no need to run it unless the weather is bad and the streets

> are
> > a little slick.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:KGKdnVFhsJvHD5miXTWJgA@comcast.com...
> > > My "new" Grand Wagoneer (1990) has the "Selectrac" xfer case.

According
> > to
> > > the owners manual, you can use 4hi on pavement. Is there some reason

> why
> > > you shouldn't use 4hi all the time or, at least, for extended periods

of
> > > time? I'm used to Command Trac, so I'm still learning about

Selectrac.
> > > Thanx
> > > TJim
> > > 98TJ SE
> > > 90 SJ Grand Wagoneer
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 07-04-2003 10:37 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
That's even stranger since I had an '89 Cherokee with Selectrac and it had
2wd, 4Hi, 4FullTime, Neutral, then 4Lo. I've never seen a Selectrac
transfer case with any other configuration.

Jerry

--
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:SLScnQaURe3RcZiiXTWJkw@comcast.com...
> All right, I can't type what I'm thinking.
> I meant to say "full time" not "part time". I have only "full time" 4wd

hi
> and "part time" 4wd lo ranges.
> (Some day I'll learn to proofread my posts!)
> TJim
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1YOdnaO0nefZe5iiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> > Jerry, Mine's from 1990 (I forget the model right now) and it doesn't

have
> a
> > 4hi part time setting. You can put it into 2wd, 4hi full time, or 4lo

> part
> > time. (I wish it *did* have a 4hi part time setting like my TJ does)
> > I just couldn't see how there would be any more gas usage or wear by

> having
> > it in part time 4hi, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by

the
> > motor vs. 2wd, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by the

> wheels
> > (through the street from the back diff and driveshaft which are driven

by
> > the engine...)
> > Seems like the engine is doing the same work (maybe even slightly less)

in
> > 4wd full time as in 2wd.
> > TJim
> > 98 TJ SE
> > 90 SJ GW
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:J74Na.117825$hd6.98172@fed1read05...
> > > The 4Hi setting is one of the two part-time settings (4Hi and 4Lo) and
> > > neither of those two setting should be used on the street. Only the

one
> > > labeled 4FullTime (4Full?) should be used on the street... and then it

> can
> > > be used on the street as much as you like, or full-time if you like...
> > > though I see no need to run it unless the weather is bad and the

streets
> > are
> > > a little slick.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:KGKdnVFhsJvHD5miXTWJgA@comcast.com...
> > > > My "new" Grand Wagoneer (1990) has the "Selectrac" xfer case.

> According
> > > to
> > > > the owners manual, you can use 4hi on pavement. Is there some

reason
> > why
> > > > you shouldn't use 4hi all the time or, at least, for extended

periods
> of
> > > > time? I'm used to Command Trac, so I'm still learning about

> Selectrac.
> > > > Thanx
> > > > TJim
> > > > 98TJ SE
> > > > 90 SJ Grand Wagoneer
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Keith Rogers 07-04-2003 10:55 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote:

> That's even stranger since I had an '89 Cherokee with Selectrac and it had
> 2wd, 4Hi, 4FullTime, Neutral, then 4Lo. I've never seen a Selectrac
> transfer case with any other configuration.
>
> Jerry


The Selec-Trac in my 96ZJ has 2WD, 4 Part-Time (high range), 4 Full-Time
(high range), Nuetral, and 4 LO (low range).

TJim 07-04-2003 11:08 PM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
Yup, near as I've been able to determine, I've got an AMC 360 (5.9L) V8, a
Chrysler 727 auto tranny, and an NP-229 xfer case with d44 diff front and
rear (with 6 bolt wheels).
My transfer case controls consist of a slide switch on the dash with "2wd -
4wd" selections and a lever at the base of the seat with "HI-N-LO" with, of
course, the warning not to try to shift into LO and 2wd at the same time or
you will break stuff.
Jeeps are like a box of chocolates... ;)
TJim

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:kRqNa.118529$hd6.80470@fed1read05...
> That's even stranger since I had an '89 Cherokee with Selectrac and it had
> 2wd, 4Hi, 4FullTime, Neutral, then 4Lo. I've never seen a Selectrac
> transfer case with any other configuration.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:SLScnQaURe3RcZiiXTWJkw@comcast.com...
> > All right, I can't type what I'm thinking.
> > I meant to say "full time" not "part time". I have only "full time"

4wd
> hi
> > and "part time" 4wd lo ranges.
> > (Some day I'll learn to proofread my posts!)
> > TJim
> >
> > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:1YOdnaO0nefZe5iiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> > > Jerry, Mine's from 1990 (I forget the model right now) and it doesn't

> have
> > a
> > > 4hi part time setting. You can put it into 2wd, 4hi full time, or 4lo

> > part
> > > time. (I wish it *did* have a 4hi part time setting like my TJ does)
> > > I just couldn't see how there would be any more gas usage or wear by

> > having
> > > it in part time 4hi, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by

> the
> > > motor vs. 2wd, where the front diff and driveshaft are driven by the

> > wheels
> > > (through the street from the back diff and driveshaft which are driven

> by
> > > the engine...)
> > > Seems like the engine is doing the same work (maybe even slightly

less)
> in
> > > 4wd full time as in 2wd.
> > > TJim
> > > 98 TJ SE
> > > 90 SJ GW
> > >
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:J74Na.117825$hd6.98172@fed1read05...
> > > > The 4Hi setting is one of the two part-time settings (4Hi and 4Lo)

and
> > > > neither of those two setting should be used on the street. Only the

> one
> > > > labeled 4FullTime (4Full?) should be used on the street... and then

it
> > can
> > > > be used on the street as much as you like, or full-time if you

like...
> > > > though I see no need to run it unless the weather is bad and the

> streets
> > > are
> > > > a little slick.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > >
> > > > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:KGKdnVFhsJvHD5miXTWJgA@comcast.com...
> > > > > My "new" Grand Wagoneer (1990) has the "Selectrac" xfer case.

> > According
> > > > to
> > > > > the owners manual, you can use 4hi on pavement. Is there some

> reason
> > > why
> > > > > you shouldn't use 4hi all the time or, at least, for extended

> periods
> > of
> > > > > time? I'm used to Command Trac, so I'm still learning about

> > Selectrac.
> > > > > Thanx
> > > > > TJim
> > > > > 98TJ SE
> > > > > 90 SJ Grand Wagoneer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 07-05-2003 01:29 AM

Re: "full-time 4wd"?
 
Then you weren't looking at a Selectrac... Quadratrac does not have a 2wd
setting but Selectrac does.

--
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:lcicgvsgjq4bnaasqe4tgpeqktoc5lgb3d@4ax.com...
> I was looking through some older brochures for the '93 and all the
> pictures I see of the Selectrac shifter don't show the 2wd on them.
>
> ----
>
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:37:03 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >That's even stranger since I had an '89 Cherokee with Selectrac and it

had
> >2wd, 4Hi, 4FullTime, Neutral, then 4Lo. I've never seen a Selectrac
> >transfer case with any other configuration.
> >
> >Jerry
> >
> >--

>





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