Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

We called it the "two hosed wrench"

c wrote:
> We also call them a flame wrench or a gas axe.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:406B4A56.6F1A4A@cox.net...
>
>> "fire wrench" LOL
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Yep, the CJ roll bars were designed to not come off. I've pulled two --
>>>my original which proved to be twisted and a boneyard replacement. The
>>>original came off only after I used a cut-off wheel on all the bolts. I
>>>managed to back off about three bolts in the boneyard, the rest came off
>>>with the fire wrench. Getting it back on my repop tub required a
>
> ratchet
>
>>>strap to pull the legs in enough to get it past the tub's lip.
>>>
>>>To my surprise, an early-style CJ roll bar (the kind that sits on the
>>>wheel boxes only) turned sideways will fit comfortably in the back of a
>>>Cherokee.
>>>
>>>Some CJs had a stiffener under the wheelbox that spanned two bolts. I
>>>nearly missed the boneyard ones under all the undercoating.
>>>
>>>Oh, and there's two body mounts that you might miss, they're inboard of
>>>the frame on the cross member that holds up the leading edge of the fuel
>>>tank.
>
>
>

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

hehe, I like that one.

Chris


"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:BOWac.124$Ru5.20216@news.uswest.net...
We called it the "two hosed wrench"

c wrote:
> We also call them a flame wrench or a gas axe.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:406B4A56.6F1A4A@cox.net...
>
>> "fire wrench" LOL
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Yep, the CJ roll bars were designed to not come off. I've pulled two --
>>>my original which proved to be twisted and a boneyard replacement. The
>>>original came off only after I used a cut-off wheel on all the bolts. I
>>>managed to back off about three bolts in the boneyard, the rest came off
>>>with the fire wrench. Getting it back on my repop tub required a
>
> ratchet
>
>>>strap to pull the legs in enough to get it past the tub's lip.
>>>
>>>To my surprise, an early-style CJ roll bar (the kind that sits on the
>>>wheel boxes only) turned sideways will fit comfortably in the back of a
>>>Cherokee.
>>>
>>>Some CJs had a stiffener under the wheelbox that spanned two bolts. I
>>>nearly missed the boneyard ones under all the undercoating.
>>>
>>>Oh, and there's two body mounts that you might miss, they're inboard of
>>>the frame on the cross member that holds up the leading edge of the fuel
>>>tank.
>
>
>

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

hehe, I like that one.

Chris


"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:BOWac.124$Ru5.20216@news.uswest.net...
We called it the "two hosed wrench"

c wrote:
> We also call them a flame wrench or a gas axe.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:406B4A56.6F1A4A@cox.net...
>
>> "fire wrench" LOL
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Yep, the CJ roll bars were designed to not come off. I've pulled two --
>>>my original which proved to be twisted and a boneyard replacement. The
>>>original came off only after I used a cut-off wheel on all the bolts. I
>>>managed to back off about three bolts in the boneyard, the rest came off
>>>with the fire wrench. Getting it back on my repop tub required a
>
> ratchet
>
>>>strap to pull the legs in enough to get it past the tub's lip.
>>>
>>>To my surprise, an early-style CJ roll bar (the kind that sits on the
>>>wheel boxes only) turned sideways will fit comfortably in the back of a
>>>Cherokee.
>>>
>>>Some CJs had a stiffener under the wheelbox that spanned two bolts. I
>>>nearly missed the boneyard ones under all the undercoating.
>>>
>>>Oh, and there's two body mounts that you might miss, they're inboard of
>>>the frame on the cross member that holds up the leading edge of the fuel
>>>tank.
>
>
>

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

hehe, I like that one.

Chris


"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:BOWac.124$Ru5.20216@news.uswest.net...
We called it the "two hosed wrench"

c wrote:
> We also call them a flame wrench or a gas axe.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:406B4A56.6F1A4A@cox.net...
>
>> "fire wrench" LOL
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Yep, the CJ roll bars were designed to not come off. I've pulled two --
>>>my original which proved to be twisted and a boneyard replacement. The
>>>original came off only after I used a cut-off wheel on all the bolts. I
>>>managed to back off about three bolts in the boneyard, the rest came off
>>>with the fire wrench. Getting it back on my repop tub required a
>
> ratchet
>
>>>strap to pull the legs in enough to get it past the tub's lip.
>>>
>>>To my surprise, an early-style CJ roll bar (the kind that sits on the
>>>wheel boxes only) turned sideways will fit comfortably in the back of a
>>>Cherokee.
>>>
>>>Some CJs had a stiffener under the wheelbox that spanned two bolts. I
>>>nearly missed the boneyard ones under all the undercoating.
>>>
>>>Oh, and there's two body mounts that you might miss, they're inboard of
>>>the frame on the cross member that holds up the leading edge of the fuel
>>>tank.
>
>
>

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

hehe, I like that one.

Chris


"Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:BOWac.124$Ru5.20216@news.uswest.net...
We called it the "two hosed wrench"

c wrote:
> We also call them a flame wrench or a gas axe.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:406B4A56.6F1A4A@cox.net...
>
>> "fire wrench" LOL
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Yep, the CJ roll bars were designed to not come off. I've pulled two --
>>>my original which proved to be twisted and a boneyard replacement. The
>>>original came off only after I used a cut-off wheel on all the bolts. I
>>>managed to back off about three bolts in the boneyard, the rest came off
>>>with the fire wrench. Getting it back on my repop tub required a
>
> ratchet
>
>>>strap to pull the legs in enough to get it past the tub's lip.
>>>
>>>To my surprise, an early-style CJ roll bar (the kind that sits on the
>>>wheel boxes only) turned sideways will fit comfortably in the back of a
>>>Cherokee.
>>>
>>>Some CJs had a stiffener under the wheelbox that spanned two bolts. I
>>>nearly missed the boneyard ones under all the undercoating.
>>>
>>>Oh, and there's two body mounts that you might miss, they're inboard of
>>>the frame on the cross member that holds up the leading edge of the fuel
>>>tank.
>
>
>

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

Just an idea, since he's tossing the old tub, he may just want to remove
any rust-frozen stuff with a Sawzall, then grind off the frozen bolts/nuts
once he gets the parts off.
Many years ago I did this with a buddies rust bucket '72 CJ-5 parts donor.
In order to make it easier to take to the dump, after we were done we old
rotted tub up into 1' square pieces & loaded them into the bed of a little
Nissan pickup. The old rotten frame literally fell apart once the body came
off, but an hour or so with a torch and it, too, became confetti for the
smelter. This was actually great sport (and a lot of fun noise making)
cutting the thing up with two Sawzalls and a torch!

We then had a pile of tagged parts ready to be installed on a clean frame
and a fiberglass tub. (That was the point when the fun ended and the cursing
began in earnest.) My motto: "Ye Shall Own No Jeep CJ That Has Crossed Any
State Line North of the Red River, or Come Within 100 miles of any Sea
Coast."|

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

Just an idea, since he's tossing the old tub, he may just want to remove
any rust-frozen stuff with a Sawzall, then grind off the frozen bolts/nuts
once he gets the parts off.
Many years ago I did this with a buddies rust bucket '72 CJ-5 parts donor.
In order to make it easier to take to the dump, after we were done we old
rotted tub up into 1' square pieces & loaded them into the bed of a little
Nissan pickup. The old rotten frame literally fell apart once the body came
off, but an hour or so with a torch and it, too, became confetti for the
smelter. This was actually great sport (and a lot of fun noise making)
cutting the thing up with two Sawzalls and a torch!

We then had a pile of tagged parts ready to be installed on a clean frame
and a fiberglass tub. (That was the point when the fun ended and the cursing
began in earnest.) My motto: "Ye Shall Own No Jeep CJ That Has Crossed Any
State Line North of the Red River, or Come Within 100 miles of any Sea
Coast."|

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

Just an idea, since he's tossing the old tub, he may just want to remove
any rust-frozen stuff with a Sawzall, then grind off the frozen bolts/nuts
once he gets the parts off.
Many years ago I did this with a buddies rust bucket '72 CJ-5 parts donor.
In order to make it easier to take to the dump, after we were done we old
rotted tub up into 1' square pieces & loaded them into the bed of a little
Nissan pickup. The old rotten frame literally fell apart once the body came
off, but an hour or so with a torch and it, too, became confetti for the
smelter. This was actually great sport (and a lot of fun noise making)
cutting the thing up with two Sawzalls and a torch!

We then had a pile of tagged parts ready to be installed on a clean frame
and a fiberglass tub. (That was the point when the fun ended and the cursing
began in earnest.) My motto: "Ye Shall Own No Jeep CJ That Has Crossed Any
State Line North of the Red River, or Come Within 100 miles of any Sea
Coast."|

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

Just an idea, since he's tossing the old tub, he may just want to remove
any rust-frozen stuff with a Sawzall, then grind off the frozen bolts/nuts
once he gets the parts off.
Many years ago I did this with a buddies rust bucket '72 CJ-5 parts donor.
In order to make it easier to take to the dump, after we were done we old
rotted tub up into 1' square pieces & loaded them into the bed of a little
Nissan pickup. The old rotten frame literally fell apart once the body came
off, but an hour or so with a torch and it, too, became confetti for the
smelter. This was actually great sport (and a lot of fun noise making)
cutting the thing up with two Sawzalls and a torch!

We then had a pile of tagged parts ready to be installed on a clean frame
and a fiberglass tub. (That was the point when the fun ended and the cursing
began in earnest.) My motto: "Ye Shall Own No Jeep CJ That Has Crossed Any
State Line North of the Red River, or Come Within 100 miles of any Sea
Coast."|

Re: CJ tub swap - bad omen
 

Jerry McG wrote:

> Just an idea, since he's tossing the old tub, he may just want to remove
> any rust-frozen stuff with a Sawzall, then grind off the frozen bolts/nuts
> once he gets the parts off.
> Many years ago I did this with a buddies rust bucket '72 CJ-5 parts donor.
> In order to make it easier to take to the dump, after we were done we old
> rotted tub up into 1' square pieces & loaded them into the bed of a little
> Nissan pickup. The old rotten frame literally fell apart once the body came
> off, but an hour or so with a torch and it, too, became confetti for the
> smelter. This was actually great sport (and a lot of fun noise making)
> cutting the thing up with two Sawzalls and a torch!
>
> We then had a pile of tagged parts ready to be installed on a clean frame
> and a fiberglass tub. (That was the point when the fun ended and the cursing
> began in earnest.) My motto: "Ye Shall Own No Jeep CJ That Has Crossed Any
> State Line North of the Red River, or Come Within 100 miles of any Sea
> Coast."|
>
>

LOL!
I just did something like that with my donor Toyota pickup for the
driveline in the Frankenwillys. I cut damn near the whole truck up in
pieces small enough that the whole body including the cab and bed went
out in the trash. I also bought a couple pair of heavy leather work
gloves for the garbagemen and put them on the pile of metal with a note
that the gloves were for their protection and they should keep them.
They took every piece.

It was a lot of fun going at a rustbucket using a grinder, Sawzall and
an air hammer with a cutting bit. It was LOTS of fun!
=8D
Woo-Hoo!!!

Cheers,
- Jeff G
http://jeffgross.com/willys