Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro,
allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five years. I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent years, the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a smashing success! |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On this particular day of this month, in the Year Of The Golden Pig, George Orwell did state:
> It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! Yep! -- From: ----------@cox.net (via teranews) > > Reported to: internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca > And they are very tired of you. Message-ID: <464119a9$0$16368$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Yes, there's a bitch that replies to me, kinda telling me the problem's with the Canadian Shaw's personnel. But prescience pays off and long as you violate the groups charter, or just Usenet's common decency, I'll be there to report you. You being a traitor is a especial incentive. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On this particular day of this month, in the Year Of The Golden Pig, George Orwell did state:
> It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! Yep! -- From: ----------@cox.net (via teranews) > > Reported to: internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca > And they are very tired of you. Message-ID: <464119a9$0$16368$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Yes, there's a bitch that replies to me, kinda telling me the problem's with the Canadian Shaw's personnel. But prescience pays off and long as you violate the groups charter, or just Usenet's common decency, I'll be there to report you. You being a traitor is a especial incentive. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On this particular day of this month, in the Year Of The Golden Pig, George Orwell did state:
> It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! Yep! -- From: ----------@cox.net (via teranews) > > Reported to: internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca > And they are very tired of you. Message-ID: <464119a9$0$16368$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Yes, there's a bitch that replies to me, kinda telling me the problem's with the Canadian Shaw's personnel. But prescience pays off and long as you violate the groups charter, or just Usenet's common decency, I'll be there to report you. You being a traitor is a especial incentive. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On this particular day of this month, in the Year Of The Golden Pig, George Orwell did state:
> It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! Yep! -- From: ----------@cox.net (via teranews) > > Reported to: internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca > And they are very tired of you. Message-ID: <464119a9$0$16368$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Yes, there's a bitch that replies to me, kinda telling me the problem's with the Canadian Shaw's personnel. But prescience pays off and long as you violate the groups charter, or just Usenet's common decency, I'll be there to report you. You being a traitor is a especial incentive. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! > Read www.autoextremist.com Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, they'll start parting out the company immediately. No such thing as three year and five year timelines. Chyrsler dealers are apparently already lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will begin importing shortly. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! > Read www.autoextremist.com Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, they'll start parting out the company immediately. No such thing as three year and five year timelines. Chyrsler dealers are apparently already lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will begin importing shortly. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! > Read www.autoextremist.com Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, they'll start parting out the company immediately. No such thing as three year and five year timelines. Chyrsler dealers are apparently already lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will begin importing shortly. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > years. > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > years, > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > smashing success! > Read www.autoextremist.com Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, they'll start parting out the company immediately. No such thing as three year and five year timelines. Chyrsler dealers are apparently already lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will begin importing shortly. |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Ken Finney" <kenneth.c.finney@boeing.com> wrote in message news:JI7KoH.6uu@news.boeing.com... > > "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message > news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > > years. > > > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > > years, > > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > > smashing success! > > > > Read www.autoextremist.com > > Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer > the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, > they'll start parting out the company immediately. This is an extreme simplification of things. The head honchos of the UAW have their own accountants who can read a balance sheet. They aren't dumb. This so called "take it or leave it" offer was negotiated between Cerberus and the UAW before Chrysler was purchased. Proof that the UAW and Cerberus came to an agreement is that Cerberus went ahead with the purchase - they never would have done so if the UAW hadn't struck a deal. The problem now is in selling this agreement to the UAW membership. So what the apparent tack is going to be, is that both the head honchos at the UAW and Cerberus have worked out a propaganda campaign to convince the membership that it's big bad Cerberus who is pushing things around and that this take it or leave it agreement is the only option. > No such thing as three > year and five year timelines. Of course there is. Once the UAW accepts the contract this summer, you would be daft if you think that Cerberus is going to sit back and run the company forever. Not at all, instead, they will be very concerned with getting the company profitable - but if for some reason they fail, they will have no choice but to write it off and break up the company. > Chyrsler dealers are apparently already > lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will > begin importing shortly. > And here we go with the Yugo all over again.... Ted |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Ken Finney" <kenneth.c.finney@boeing.com> wrote in message news:JI7KoH.6uu@news.boeing.com... > > "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message > news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > > years. > > > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > > years, > > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > > smashing success! > > > > Read www.autoextremist.com > > Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer > the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, > they'll start parting out the company immediately. This is an extreme simplification of things. The head honchos of the UAW have their own accountants who can read a balance sheet. They aren't dumb. This so called "take it or leave it" offer was negotiated between Cerberus and the UAW before Chrysler was purchased. Proof that the UAW and Cerberus came to an agreement is that Cerberus went ahead with the purchase - they never would have done so if the UAW hadn't struck a deal. The problem now is in selling this agreement to the UAW membership. So what the apparent tack is going to be, is that both the head honchos at the UAW and Cerberus have worked out a propaganda campaign to convince the membership that it's big bad Cerberus who is pushing things around and that this take it or leave it agreement is the only option. > No such thing as three > year and five year timelines. Of course there is. Once the UAW accepts the contract this summer, you would be daft if you think that Cerberus is going to sit back and run the company forever. Not at all, instead, they will be very concerned with getting the company profitable - but if for some reason they fail, they will have no choice but to write it off and break up the company. > Chyrsler dealers are apparently already > lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will > begin importing shortly. > And here we go with the Yugo all over again.... Ted |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Ken Finney" <kenneth.c.finney@boeing.com> wrote in message news:JI7KoH.6uu@news.boeing.com... > > "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message > news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > > years. > > > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > > years, > > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > > smashing success! > > > > Read www.autoextremist.com > > Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer > the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, > they'll start parting out the company immediately. This is an extreme simplification of things. The head honchos of the UAW have their own accountants who can read a balance sheet. They aren't dumb. This so called "take it or leave it" offer was negotiated between Cerberus and the UAW before Chrysler was purchased. Proof that the UAW and Cerberus came to an agreement is that Cerberus went ahead with the purchase - they never would have done so if the UAW hadn't struck a deal. The problem now is in selling this agreement to the UAW membership. So what the apparent tack is going to be, is that both the head honchos at the UAW and Cerberus have worked out a propaganda campaign to convince the membership that it's big bad Cerberus who is pushing things around and that this take it or leave it agreement is the only option. > No such thing as three > year and five year timelines. Of course there is. Once the UAW accepts the contract this summer, you would be daft if you think that Cerberus is going to sit back and run the company forever. Not at all, instead, they will be very concerned with getting the company profitable - but if for some reason they fail, they will have no choice but to write it off and break up the company. > Chyrsler dealers are apparently already > lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will > begin importing shortly. > And here we go with the Yugo all over again.... Ted |
Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Ken Finney" <kenneth.c.finney@boeing.com> wrote in message news:JI7KoH.6uu@news.boeing.com... > > "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message > news:8f10f9058e5caa3c7dad34b287626554@mixmaster.it ... > > It depends on how the company is managed by Cerberus. If they go retro, > > allowing the engineers to make ALL the decisions, Chrysler will prosper in > > the marketplace, for intelligent buyers will see their virtues. On the > > other hand, if we get more of the same, with the bean counters dictating > > what finds its way to the sales lot, Chrysler will be history in five > > years. > > > > I love to watch TCM movies. Just look at those cars of the 30's. They > > were great. Maybe not as good as today's cars from the mechanical > > standpoint, but their form fit their function just right. In recent > > years, > > the designers of the Prowler recognized that essential element. Too bad, > > they did not scale up the Prowler to sedan size and whittle its price down > > to compete with standard cars like the Buick. It would have been a > > smashing success! > > > > Read www.autoextremist.com > > Their take (and they have a good history) is Cerberus is expected to offer > the UAW a take-it-or-leave-it offer this Summer, and if they don't take it, > they'll start parting out the company immediately. This is an extreme simplification of things. The head honchos of the UAW have their own accountants who can read a balance sheet. They aren't dumb. This so called "take it or leave it" offer was negotiated between Cerberus and the UAW before Chrysler was purchased. Proof that the UAW and Cerberus came to an agreement is that Cerberus went ahead with the purchase - they never would have done so if the UAW hadn't struck a deal. The problem now is in selling this agreement to the UAW membership. So what the apparent tack is going to be, is that both the head honchos at the UAW and Cerberus have worked out a propaganda campaign to convince the membership that it's big bad Cerberus who is pushing things around and that this take it or leave it agreement is the only option. > No such thing as three > year and five year timelines. Of course there is. Once the UAW accepts the contract this summer, you would be daft if you think that Cerberus is going to sit back and run the company forever. Not at all, instead, they will be very concerned with getting the company profitable - but if for some reason they fail, they will have no choice but to write it off and break up the company. > Chyrsler dealers are apparently already > lining up to become "Brilliance" dealers, the Chinese car company that will > begin importing shortly. > And here we go with the Yugo all over again.... Ted |
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