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Doug 03-23-2005 10:55 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:

On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle (which
the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?

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"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
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> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
> less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
> releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
> just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
>




Jo Bo 03-24-2005 06:43 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
OK you had a 91 model car checked three years ago at the "stealership".
Could it just be getting old? You could try putting regular diff oil in it
without the limited slip additive.

JoBo

"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
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>I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>
> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> (which
> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
>> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
>> (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
>> less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
>> releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
>> just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>>
>> --
>> Remove nospam to email
>>

>
>




Jo Bo 03-24-2005 06:43 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
OK you had a 91 model car checked three years ago at the "stealership".
Could it just be getting old? You could try putting regular diff oil in it
without the limited slip additive.

JoBo

"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
>I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>
> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> (which
> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
>> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
>> (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
>> less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
>> releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
>> just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>>
>> --
>> Remove nospam to email
>>

>
>




Jo Bo 03-24-2005 06:43 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
OK you had a 91 model car checked three years ago at the "stealership".
Could it just be getting old? You could try putting regular diff oil in it
without the limited slip additive.

JoBo

"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
>I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>
> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> (which
> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
>> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
>> (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
>> less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
>> releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
>> just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>>
>> --
>> Remove nospam to email
>>

>
>




03-25-2005 12:49 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
remove the rear cover and look for metal or clutch material in the oil. if
there, serious work is needed.
otherwise just use new oil and maybe an additive
old john


"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
> I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>
> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle

(which
> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
> > On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> > (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
> > less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
> > releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
> > just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
> >
> > --
> > Remove nospam to email
> >

>
>




03-25-2005 12:49 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
remove the rear cover and look for metal or clutch material in the oil. if
there, serious work is needed.
otherwise just use new oil and maybe an additive
old john


"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
> I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>
> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle

(which
> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
> > On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> > (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
> > less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
> > releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
> > just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
> >
> > --
> > Remove nospam to email
> >

>
>




03-25-2005 12:49 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
remove the rear cover and look for metal or clutch material in the oil. if
there, serious work is needed.
otherwise just use new oil and maybe an additive
old john


"Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
> I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>
> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle

(which
> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less than
> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing. So,
> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>
> --
> Remove nospam to email
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
> > On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
> > (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
> > less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
> > releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
> > just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
> >
> > --
> > Remove nospam to email
> >

>
>




Doug 03-25-2005 01:06 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
ago. Thanks for the info.

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> remove the rear cover and look for metal or clutch material in the oil. if
> there, serious work is needed.
> otherwise just use new oil and maybe an additive
> old john
>
>
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
>> I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
>> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>>
>> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle

> (which
>> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less
>> than
>> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing.
>> So,
>> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
>> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>>
>> --
>> Remove nospam to email
>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
>> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
>> > On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
>> > (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
>> > less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
>> > releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
>> > just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Remove nospam to email
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




Doug 03-25-2005 01:06 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
ago. Thanks for the info.

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<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> remove the rear cover and look for metal or clutch material in the oil. if
> there, serious work is needed.
> otherwise just use new oil and maybe an additive
> old john
>
>
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
>> I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
>> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>>
>> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle

> (which
>> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less
>> than
>> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing.
>> So,
>> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
>> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>>
>> --
>> Remove nospam to email
>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
>> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
>> > On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
>> > (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
>> > less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
>> > releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
>> > just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Remove nospam to email
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




Doug 03-25-2005 01:06 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
ago. Thanks for the info.

--
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<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> remove the rear cover and look for metal or clutch material in the oil. if
> there, serious work is needed.
> otherwise just use new oil and maybe an additive
> old john
>
>
> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:wqr0e.1758$rb5.329@fe02.lga...
>> I don't think my previous post made it so I'm bumping this post. I have
>> the following symptoms w/a 91 XJ (w/4WD) Laredo:
>>
>> On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle

> (which
>> the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked less
>> than
>> three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and releasing.
>> So,
>> is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to just replace the
>> rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>>
>> --
>> Remove nospam to email
>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net> wrote in message
>> news:nyt%d.2333$mL2.1621@fe03.lga...
>> > On sharp left or right turns I can hear some noise from the rear axle
>> > (which the Chrysler/Jeep-Eagle stealership mechanics supposedly checked
>> > less than three years ago). It's as if the clutch pack is binding and
>> > releasing. So, is this normal or do I have problems? Is it possible to
>> > just replace the rear diff w/a normal, non-trac-loc axle?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Remove nospam to email
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




RoyJ 03-25-2005 09:41 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive.
If the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week
or two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if
it seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in
aluminum paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.

Doug wrote:
> That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
> Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
> ago. Thanks for the info.
>


RoyJ 03-25-2005 09:41 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive.
If the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week
or two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if
it seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in
aluminum paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.

Doug wrote:
> That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
> Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
> ago. Thanks for the info.
>


RoyJ 03-25-2005 09:41 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive.
If the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week
or two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if
it seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in
aluminum paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.

Doug wrote:
> That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
> Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
> ago. Thanks for the info.
>


Will Honea 03-25-2005 11:26 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I think there's a wear/aging part to this as well. When I first got
my MJ, the Tracloc was nice and qiuet for 8-9000 miles then started to
complain in slow, tight left hand turns. Drained, refilled, added the
magic tube of lube to it and it took 8-10 figure 8 turns to quiet
down. Been playing nicely for over 60K since that - past due for
another change anyway.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:41:58 UTC RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

> I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive.
> If the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week
> or two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if
> it seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in
> aluminum paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.
>
> Doug wrote:
> > That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
> > Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
> > ago. Thanks for the info.
> >



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 03-25-2005 11:26 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I think there's a wear/aging part to this as well. When I first got
my MJ, the Tracloc was nice and qiuet for 8-9000 miles then started to
complain in slow, tight left hand turns. Drained, refilled, added the
magic tube of lube to it and it took 8-10 figure 8 turns to quiet
down. Been playing nicely for over 60K since that - past due for
another change anyway.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:41:58 UTC RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

> I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive.
> If the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week
> or two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if
> it seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in
> aluminum paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.
>
> Doug wrote:
> > That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
> > Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
> > ago. Thanks for the info.
> >



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 03-25-2005 11:26 PM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
I think there's a wear/aging part to this as well. When I first got
my MJ, the Tracloc was nice and qiuet for 8-9000 miles then started to
complain in slow, tight left hand turns. Drained, refilled, added the
magic tube of lube to it and it took 8-10 figure 8 turns to quiet
down. Been playing nicely for over 60K since that - past due for
another change anyway.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:41:58 UTC RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

> I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive.
> If the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week
> or two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if
> it seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in
> aluminum paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.
>
> Doug wrote:
> > That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
> > Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2 years
> > ago. Thanks for the info.
> >



--
Will Honea

Doug 03-28-2005 01:07 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
What about using synthetic lube (along w/the trac-loc additive)? Thanks for
the responses too. I REALLY appreciate this newsgroup even if I occasionally
have foot-in-mouth disease.

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> I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive. If
> the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week or
> two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if it
> seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in aluminum
> paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.
>
> Doug wrote:
>> That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
>> Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2
>> years ago. Thanks for the info.
>>




Doug 03-28-2005 01:07 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
What about using synthetic lube (along w/the trac-loc additive)? Thanks for
the responses too. I REALLY appreciate this newsgroup even if I occasionally
have foot-in-mouth disease.

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"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
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> I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive. If
> the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week or
> two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if it
> seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in aluminum
> paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.
>
> Doug wrote:
>> That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
>> Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2
>> years ago. Thanks for the info.
>>




Doug 03-28-2005 01:07 AM

Re: '91' XJ: Rear diff binding or is the trac-loc?
 
What about using synthetic lube (along w/the trac-loc additive)? Thanks for
the responses too. I REALLY appreciate this newsgroup even if I occasionally
have foot-in-mouth disease.

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"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
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> I'd just change the gear oil and make sure it has sufficient additive. If
> the oil was 'contaminated' with non additive oil, it may take a week or
> two to get things back to normal. Take a look at what comes out, if it
> seems to have lumps of darker crud or looks like someone mixed in aluminum
> paint, it's time for a teardown and serious inspection.
>
> Doug wrote:
>> That's what I was afraid you'd say. Damn. I hope it just needs new oil.
>> Supposedly the clutch packs were R&R'ed at the stealership less than 2
>> years ago. Thanks for the info.
>>





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