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reply@grouponly.com 02-29-2004 12:49 PM

Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Hey People !

My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.

I was just about to do it today in prep for a
nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.

I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
(I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
Any feedback appreciated and thanks.

Andrew
(Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)

jbjeep 02-29-2004 01:15 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Pull it. I havent had carpet in my 98, since...well, since 98. Just the husky
liners to catch the worst of the muck off of my boots.



On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:49:34 -0500, reply@grouponly.com wrote:

>>Hey People !
>>
>> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
>>Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
>>ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
>>No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>>
>> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
>>nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
>>to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
>>Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>>
>> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
>>or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
>>(I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
>>Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>>
>> Andrew
>>(Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)



jbjeep 02-29-2004 01:15 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Pull it. I havent had carpet in my 98, since...well, since 98. Just the husky
liners to catch the worst of the muck off of my boots.



On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:49:34 -0500, reply@grouponly.com wrote:

>>Hey People !
>>
>> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
>>Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
>>ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
>>No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>>
>> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
>>nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
>>to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
>>Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>>
>> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
>>or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
>>(I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
>>Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>>
>> Andrew
>>(Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)



jbjeep 02-29-2004 01:15 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Pull it. I havent had carpet in my 98, since...well, since 98. Just the husky
liners to catch the worst of the muck off of my boots.



On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:49:34 -0500, reply@grouponly.com wrote:

>>Hey People !
>>
>> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
>>Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
>>ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
>>No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>>
>> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
>>nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
>>to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
>>Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>>
>> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
>>or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
>>(I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
>>Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>>
>> Andrew
>>(Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)



CRWLR 02-29-2004 02:23 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
I don't know if it is true that you will burn anybody, but I was very
uncomfortable driving barefoot, or with sandles on. I need to use heavy
rubber floor mats to be comfortable driving my CJ.




<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




CRWLR 02-29-2004 02:23 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
I don't know if it is true that you will burn anybody, but I was very
uncomfortable driving barefoot, or with sandles on. I need to use heavy
rubber floor mats to be comfortable driving my CJ.




<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




CRWLR 02-29-2004 02:23 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
I don't know if it is true that you will burn anybody, but I was very
uncomfortable driving barefoot, or with sandles on. I need to use heavy
rubber floor mats to be comfortable driving my CJ.




<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 04:00 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Wear combat boots like a Real Jeeper.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

reply@grouponly.com wrote:
>
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 04:00 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Wear combat boots like a Real Jeeper.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

reply@grouponly.com wrote:
>
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 04:00 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Wear combat boots like a Real Jeeper.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

reply@grouponly.com wrote:
>
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)


HarryS 02-29-2004 04:19 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Don't you smell the paint burning?

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




HarryS 02-29-2004 04:19 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Don't you smell the paint burning?

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




HarryS 02-29-2004 04:19 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Don't you smell the paint burning?

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




reply@grouponly.com 02-29-2004 04:42 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:19:45 -0500, "HarryS" <harry-s@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Don't you smell the paint burning?


LOL. Too late for today.
Next dry day-off, it's gone.

THX !

Andrew

reply@grouponly.com 02-29-2004 04:42 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:19:45 -0500, "HarryS" <harry-s@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Don't you smell the paint burning?


LOL. Too late for today.
Next dry day-off, it's gone.

THX !

Andrew

reply@grouponly.com 02-29-2004 04:42 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:19:45 -0500, "HarryS" <harry-s@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Don't you smell the paint burning?


LOL. Too late for today.
Next dry day-off, it's gone.

THX !

Andrew

Ichabod Shagnasti 02-29-2004 04:44 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
I pulled the carpet out of my '98 and my '01. It gets warm around the hump
just under the shifter, but I haven't noticed it being unbearable. My '01
ran without carpet for quite a while, but I have it Rhinolined now. It
still gets warm, but not as hot as the bare metal.

I'd pull them and get some think rubber floor mats.

<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




Ichabod Shagnasti 02-29-2004 04:44 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
I pulled the carpet out of my '98 and my '01. It gets warm around the hump
just under the shifter, but I haven't noticed it being unbearable. My '01
ran without carpet for quite a while, but I have it Rhinolined now. It
still gets warm, but not as hot as the bare metal.

I'd pull them and get some think rubber floor mats.

<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




Ichabod Shagnasti 02-29-2004 04:44 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
I pulled the carpet out of my '98 and my '01. It gets warm around the hump
just under the shifter, but I haven't noticed it being unbearable. My '01
ran without carpet for quite a while, but I have it Rhinolined now. It
still gets warm, but not as hot as the bare metal.

I'd pull them and get some think rubber floor mats.

<reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com...
> Hey People !
>
> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>
> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>
> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>
> Andrew
> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)




jbjeep 02-29-2004 05:26 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
wear shoes. lol.

I know, I know, its too damn hot down there most of the year.



On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:23:54 -0800, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>>I don't know if it is true that you will burn anybody, but I was very
>>uncomfortable driving barefoot, or with sandles on. I need to use heavy
>>rubber floor mats to be comfortable driving my CJ.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>><reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
>>news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com. ..
>>> Hey People !
>>>
>>> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
>>> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
>>> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
>>> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>>>
>>> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
>>> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
>>> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
>>> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>>>
>>> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
>>> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
>>> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
>>> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)

>>



jbjeep 02-29-2004 05:26 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
wear shoes. lol.

I know, I know, its too damn hot down there most of the year.



On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:23:54 -0800, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>>I don't know if it is true that you will burn anybody, but I was very
>>uncomfortable driving barefoot, or with sandles on. I need to use heavy
>>rubber floor mats to be comfortable driving my CJ.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>><reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
>>news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com. ..
>>> Hey People !
>>>
>>> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
>>> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
>>> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
>>> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>>>
>>> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
>>> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
>>> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
>>> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>>>
>>> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
>>> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
>>> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
>>> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)

>>



jbjeep 02-29-2004 05:26 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
wear shoes. lol.

I know, I know, its too damn hot down there most of the year.



On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:23:54 -0800, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>>I don't know if it is true that you will burn anybody, but I was very
>>uncomfortable driving barefoot, or with sandles on. I need to use heavy
>>rubber floor mats to be comfortable driving my CJ.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>><reply@grouponly.com> wrote in message
>>news:gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com. ..
>>> Hey People !
>>>
>>> My ride is '97 TJ Sahara Ragtop.
>>> Still looks OK, but,... That carpet is just TOO
>>> ratty looking anymore. I'd like to try just yanking it.
>>> No carpet at all fits my idea of a jeep better anyway.
>>>
>>> I was just about to do it today in prep for a
>>> nice couple of hours detailing it when I decided
>>> to check to manual. It gave me a big: DON"T DO THAT.
>>> Reason; high floor pan temps could burn riders.
>>>
>>> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
>>> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
>>> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
>>> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> (Wash., D.C. area - some good weather- finally!)

>>



Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com> reply@grouponly.com
wrote:

> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.


I ran without carpets in my '01 TJ for close to a year before I finally
got around to putting in herculiner. If it got warm down there, I never
noticed it. Any heat emanating from the floorboards would probably be
an improvement in the winter considering the marginal heater used in
this rig.

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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com> reply@grouponly.com
wrote:

> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.


I ran without carpets in my '01 TJ for close to a year before I finally
got around to putting in herculiner. If it got warm down there, I never
noticed it. Any heat emanating from the floorboards would probably be
an improvement in the winter considering the marginal heater used in
this rig.

----------------------------------------------------
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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <gv8440t8tpkdh7dcn6j48bq8tokl0pddf3@4ax.com> reply@grouponly.com
wrote:

> I wanta ask the group: Is that true ? Should I care
> or is this a CYA from the Jeep Legal Dept. ?
> (I sure don't wanna melt my K-Swiss ! - <grin> )
> Any feedback appreciated and thanks.


I ran without carpets in my '01 TJ for close to a year before I finally
got around to putting in herculiner. If it got warm down there, I never
noticed it. Any heat emanating from the floorboards would probably be
an improvement in the winter considering the marginal heater used in
this rig.

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 08:01 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far north?
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Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I ran without carpets in my '01 TJ for close to a year before I finally
> got around to putting in herculiner. If it got warm down there, I never
> noticed it. Any heat emanating from the floorboards would probably be
> an improvement in the winter considering the marginal heater used in
> this rig.
>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 08:01 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far north?
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Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I ran without carpets in my '01 TJ for close to a year before I finally
> got around to putting in herculiner. If it got warm down there, I never
> noticed it. Any heat emanating from the floorboards would probably be
> an improvement in the winter considering the marginal heater used in
> this rig.
>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 08:01 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far north?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I ran without carpets in my '01 TJ for close to a year before I finally
> got around to putting in herculiner. If it got warm down there, I never
> noticed it. Any heat emanating from the floorboards would probably be
> an improvement in the winter considering the marginal heater used in
> this rig.
>
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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <40428B58.585C6C85@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far
> north?


Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
on the other hand...

It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
until everything dries out.

Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
I haven't put the shovel away yet.

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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <40428B58.585C6C85@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far
> north?


Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
on the other hand...

It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
until everything dries out.

Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
I haven't put the shovel away yet.

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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <40428B58.585C6C85@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far
> north?


Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
on the other hand...

It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
until everything dries out.

Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
I haven't put the shovel away yet.

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 09:05 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Judging by a couple of winters I spent in Germany, there's no way I
could handle that.
Get that Amwa open, gas is above $2.20 here:
http://www.fueltracker.com/newmenu/h...ome&title=Home headed
for three buck this Summer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
> have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
> dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
> rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
> It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
> on the other hand...
>
> It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
> clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
> I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
> windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
> until everything dries out.
>
> Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
> I haven't put the shovel away yet.
>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 09:05 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Judging by a couple of winters I spent in Germany, there's no way I
could handle that.
Get that Amwa open, gas is above $2.20 here:
http://www.fueltracker.com/newmenu/h...ome&title=Home headed
for three buck this Summer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
> have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
> dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
> rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
> It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
> on the other hand...
>
> It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
> clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
> I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
> windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
> until everything dries out.
>
> Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
> I haven't put the shovel away yet.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 09:05 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Judging by a couple of winters I spent in Germany, there's no way I
could handle that.
Get that Amwa open, gas is above $2.20 here:
http://www.fueltracker.com/newmenu/h...ome&title=Home headed
for three buck this Summer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
> have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
> dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
> rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
> It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
> on the other hand...
>
> It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
> clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
> I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
> windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
> until everything dries out.
>
> Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
> I haven't put the shovel away yet.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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Jerry Bransford 02-29-2004 09:11 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Del, what kinda tires do you run in that muck up there? Tall and skinny?

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"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040229162832748-0900@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <40428B58.585C6C85@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far
> > north?

>
> Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
> have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
> dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
> rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
> It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
> on the other hand...
>
> It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
> clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
> I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
> windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
> until everything dries out.
>
> Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
> I haven't put the shovel away yet.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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Jerry Bransford 02-29-2004 09:11 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Del, what kinda tires do you run in that muck up there? Tall and skinny?

Jerry
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"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040229162832748-0900@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <40428B58.585C6C85@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far
> > north?

>
> Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
> have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
> dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
> rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
> It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
> on the other hand...
>
> It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
> clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
> I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
> windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
> until everything dries out.
>
> Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
> I haven't put the shovel away yet.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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Jerry Bransford 02-29-2004 09:11 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
Del, what kinda tires do you run in that muck up there? Tall and skinny?

Jerry
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"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040229162832748-0900@enews.newsguy.com...
> In <40428B58.585C6C85@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Has your sun risen above the horizon yet, or are you that far
> > north?

>
> Anchorage isn't far enough north to lose the sun entirely, but there
> have been plenty of days when that didn't really matter since it was
> dark when I left the house and dark when I got home, after spending the
> rest of the day indoors. The dark bothers some people more than others.
> It never really affects me much (I am a grouch year round) but the cold,
> on the other hand...
>
> It is slowly but surely warming up here. The main roads are pretty much
> clear of frozen stuff and I could probably drive my 2wd pickup again if
> I wanted to get it filthy. The Jeep is already filthy and needs a new
> windshield so the truck will stay in the driveway (unless I need it)
> until everything dries out.
>
> Of course, we could still get nailed in March and possibly into April so
> I haven't put the shovel away yet.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <vZw0c.7869$h23.7077@fed1read06> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Del, what kinda tires do you run in that muck up there? Tall and
> skinny?


I run 30x9.50R15LT Goodyear MT/R on the TJ, which have been on it since
new (minus 2700 miles on the alcan). I'd like a little taller tire but
at the time I just didn't want to open that can of worms on a new
vehicle. What I would *like* to do when I upgrade, is install a custom
built D44 rear axle with the sensors for my ABS, regear to 4.11, add a
Tera 2T or OME lift, and install LT235/85R16 MT/Rs on 16" rims. That
will give me about a 32x9.25. A detroit electrac would be nice too.

That's some big bucks and it would go a long way towards my airplane
project so I have to decide if it is worth it or not. I figure I can
get through at least one more winter before I have to make a decision
one way or the other. Barring any unforseen changes to my driving
routine my current tires won't be worn out at that point but I like to
have a little bit of margin in the winter.

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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <vZw0c.7869$h23.7077@fed1read06> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Del, what kinda tires do you run in that muck up there? Tall and
> skinny?


I run 30x9.50R15LT Goodyear MT/R on the TJ, which have been on it since
new (minus 2700 miles on the alcan). I'd like a little taller tire but
at the time I just didn't want to open that can of worms on a new
vehicle. What I would *like* to do when I upgrade, is install a custom
built D44 rear axle with the sensors for my ABS, regear to 4.11, add a
Tera 2T or OME lift, and install LT235/85R16 MT/Rs on 16" rims. That
will give me about a 32x9.25. A detroit electrac would be nice too.

That's some big bucks and it would go a long way towards my airplane
project so I have to decide if it is worth it or not. I figure I can
get through at least one more winter before I have to make a decision
one way or the other. Barring any unforseen changes to my driving
routine my current tires won't be worn out at that point but I like to
have a little bit of margin in the winter.

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Del Rawlins 02-29-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Ratty-Lookin' old carpet Gotta GO ! Bare Naked TJ Asks
 
In <vZw0c.7869$h23.7077@fed1read06> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Del, what kinda tires do you run in that muck up there? Tall and
> skinny?


I run 30x9.50R15LT Goodyear MT/R on the TJ, which have been on it since
new (minus 2700 miles on the alcan). I'd like a little taller tire but
at the time I just didn't want to open that can of worms on a new
vehicle. What I would *like* to do when I upgrade, is install a custom
built D44 rear axle with the sensors for my ABS, regear to 4.11, add a
Tera 2T or OME lift, and install LT235/85R16 MT/Rs on 16" rims. That
will give me about a 32x9.25. A detroit electrac would be nice too.

That's some big bucks and it would go a long way towards my airplane
project so I have to decide if it is worth it or not. I figure I can
get through at least one more winter before I have to make a decision
one way or the other. Barring any unforseen changes to my driving
routine my current tires won't be worn out at that point but I like to
have a little bit of margin in the winter.

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