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twaldron 11-10-2003 08:27 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
We landed on the moon??

travis wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:16:30 GMT, RichH <RhmpL33@NOSPAM.net> shared
> the following:
>
>
>>Yes it will damage them, will eventually roughen the surface.
>>
>>I use "Boeshield" UV protectant/wax on my vinyl windows.
>>
>>Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone know if Rain-X will damage plastic windows on a rag top?
>>>

>
>
> Maybe it's intentional. Like a conspiracy. You buy the rain-x and
> start to use it, your wiper blades deteriorate, so you either buy more
> rain-x or more wiper blades...rain-x priced a little below wiper
> blades so you're hooked like a junkie. Yeah, yeah. That's it. It's
> a conspiracy. If you don't believe me then I'll bet you're one of
> those "Yeah, we really did land on the moon" guys. heh heh
> *dons flame suit*
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 09:04 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
The only place that stuff appears to work is in the shyster's booth
at the fair grounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Rain-X will damage plastic windows on a rag top?
>
> --
> Dana Rohleder
> Port Kent, NY


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 09:04 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
The only place that stuff appears to work is in the shyster's booth
at the fair grounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Rain-X will damage plastic windows on a rag top?
>
> --
> Dana Rohleder
> Port Kent, NY


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 09:04 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
The only place that stuff appears to work is in the shyster's booth
at the fair grounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Rain-X will damage plastic windows on a rag top?
>
> --
> Dana Rohleder
> Port Kent, NY


Tim Hayes 11-10-2003 10:00 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
Bill,

I strongly disagree. I've used Rain-X myself for well over 5 years and
it has always lived up to the manufacturer's claims. The military uses a
similar product on airplane canopies.

The only issue if found with this product, and the ones like it, is that
you need to apply it 'often'. If I don't re-apply after ever 3-4 weeks
then it's not there when I need it. It also helps greatly to keep your
windows clean (with water, not washer fluid) and avoid ever using your
wipers. Washer fluid and wipers remove the film that is applied very
quickly.

Rain-X is like a 'wax' for you glass that fills in the microscopic pores
in the glass and lowers the adhesion of polar molecules.

I find that in the TJ because of the nearly vertical windshield there
isn't much vertical airflow. This makes it hard for the water to run off
at low speeds unless it is raining reasonably hard. In my VW Golf, and
Jetta before that, any motion made the water run right off the top. My
Scout had the same problem as the Jeep. That was the first vehicle I
used it on and that truck didn't have working wipers or a washer pump so
I figured Rain-X was cheaper than fixing them.

Don't use it on plastic however. The manufacturer say you should not. I
didn't listen and I tried it on a few motorcycle helmet visors and they
turned foggy after a season of riding. I suspect it wouldn't be any
better for vinyl either. It is solvent based and I'm sure the solvent
would harm anything else derived from petrochemicals.

Oh, and the 'wipes' don't really do the job and neither does the washer
reservoir additive. You really need to apply it heavily to the window
and spend the 10 minutes polishing it off with paper towels or some rags
as the instructions tell you to do. The idea is to just fill in any
irregularities in the glass, not put a layer of it over the whole
windshield.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> The only place that stuff appears to work is in the shyster's booth
> at the fair grounds.



Tim Hayes 11-10-2003 10:00 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
Bill,

I strongly disagree. I've used Rain-X myself for well over 5 years and
it has always lived up to the manufacturer's claims. The military uses a
similar product on airplane canopies.

The only issue if found with this product, and the ones like it, is that
you need to apply it 'often'. If I don't re-apply after ever 3-4 weeks
then it's not there when I need it. It also helps greatly to keep your
windows clean (with water, not washer fluid) and avoid ever using your
wipers. Washer fluid and wipers remove the film that is applied very
quickly.

Rain-X is like a 'wax' for you glass that fills in the microscopic pores
in the glass and lowers the adhesion of polar molecules.

I find that in the TJ because of the nearly vertical windshield there
isn't much vertical airflow. This makes it hard for the water to run off
at low speeds unless it is raining reasonably hard. In my VW Golf, and
Jetta before that, any motion made the water run right off the top. My
Scout had the same problem as the Jeep. That was the first vehicle I
used it on and that truck didn't have working wipers or a washer pump so
I figured Rain-X was cheaper than fixing them.

Don't use it on plastic however. The manufacturer say you should not. I
didn't listen and I tried it on a few motorcycle helmet visors and they
turned foggy after a season of riding. I suspect it wouldn't be any
better for vinyl either. It is solvent based and I'm sure the solvent
would harm anything else derived from petrochemicals.

Oh, and the 'wipes' don't really do the job and neither does the washer
reservoir additive. You really need to apply it heavily to the window
and spend the 10 minutes polishing it off with paper towels or some rags
as the instructions tell you to do. The idea is to just fill in any
irregularities in the glass, not put a layer of it over the whole
windshield.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> The only place that stuff appears to work is in the shyster's booth
> at the fair grounds.



Tim Hayes 11-10-2003 10:00 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
Bill,

I strongly disagree. I've used Rain-X myself for well over 5 years and
it has always lived up to the manufacturer's claims. The military uses a
similar product on airplane canopies.

The only issue if found with this product, and the ones like it, is that
you need to apply it 'often'. If I don't re-apply after ever 3-4 weeks
then it's not there when I need it. It also helps greatly to keep your
windows clean (with water, not washer fluid) and avoid ever using your
wipers. Washer fluid and wipers remove the film that is applied very
quickly.

Rain-X is like a 'wax' for you glass that fills in the microscopic pores
in the glass and lowers the adhesion of polar molecules.

I find that in the TJ because of the nearly vertical windshield there
isn't much vertical airflow. This makes it hard for the water to run off
at low speeds unless it is raining reasonably hard. In my VW Golf, and
Jetta before that, any motion made the water run right off the top. My
Scout had the same problem as the Jeep. That was the first vehicle I
used it on and that truck didn't have working wipers or a washer pump so
I figured Rain-X was cheaper than fixing them.

Don't use it on plastic however. The manufacturer say you should not. I
didn't listen and I tried it on a few motorcycle helmet visors and they
turned foggy after a season of riding. I suspect it wouldn't be any
better for vinyl either. It is solvent based and I'm sure the solvent
would harm anything else derived from petrochemicals.

Oh, and the 'wipes' don't really do the job and neither does the washer
reservoir additive. You really need to apply it heavily to the window
and spend the 10 minutes polishing it off with paper towels or some rags
as the instructions tell you to do. The idea is to just fill in any
irregularities in the glass, not put a layer of it over the whole
windshield.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> The only place that stuff appears to work is in the shyster's booth
> at the fair grounds.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 10:47 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
Tim, I live in Southern California where I must drive in fog. You can
snow a snow bird, but you can't sh*t a Sh*t bird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Tim Hayes wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I strongly disagree. I've used Rain-X myself for well over 5 years and
> it has always lived up to the manufacturer's claims. The military uses a
> similar product on airplane canopies.
>
> The only issue if found with this product, and the ones like it, is that
> you need to apply it 'often'. If I don't re-apply after ever 3-4 weeks
> then it's not there when I need it. It also helps greatly to keep your
> windows clean (with water, not washer fluid) and avoid ever using your
> wipers. Washer fluid and wipers remove the film that is applied very
> quickly.
>
> Rain-X is like a 'wax' for you glass that fills in the microscopic pores
> in the glass and lowers the adhesion of polar molecules.
>
> I find that in the TJ because of the nearly vertical windshield there
> isn't much vertical airflow. This makes it hard for the water to run off
> at low speeds unless it is raining reasonably hard. In my VW Golf, and
> Jetta before that, any motion made the water run right off the top. My
> Scout had the same problem as the Jeep. That was the first vehicle I
> used it on and that truck didn't have working wipers or a washer pump so
> I figured Rain-X was cheaper than fixing them.
>
> Don't use it on plastic however. The manufacturer say you should not. I
> didn't listen and I tried it on a few motorcycle helmet visors and they
> turned foggy after a season of riding. I suspect it wouldn't be any
> better for vinyl either. It is solvent based and I'm sure the solvent
> would harm anything else derived from petrochemicals.
>
> Oh, and the 'wipes' don't really do the job and neither does the washer
> reservoir additive. You really need to apply it heavily to the window
> and spend the 10 minutes polishing it off with paper towels or some rags
> as the instructions tell you to do. The idea is to just fill in any
> irregularities in the glass, not put a layer of it over the whole
> windshield.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 10:47 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
Tim, I live in Southern California where I must drive in fog. You can
snow a snow bird, but you can't sh*t a Sh*t bird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Tim Hayes wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I strongly disagree. I've used Rain-X myself for well over 5 years and
> it has always lived up to the manufacturer's claims. The military uses a
> similar product on airplane canopies.
>
> The only issue if found with this product, and the ones like it, is that
> you need to apply it 'often'. If I don't re-apply after ever 3-4 weeks
> then it's not there when I need it. It also helps greatly to keep your
> windows clean (with water, not washer fluid) and avoid ever using your
> wipers. Washer fluid and wipers remove the film that is applied very
> quickly.
>
> Rain-X is like a 'wax' for you glass that fills in the microscopic pores
> in the glass and lowers the adhesion of polar molecules.
>
> I find that in the TJ because of the nearly vertical windshield there
> isn't much vertical airflow. This makes it hard for the water to run off
> at low speeds unless it is raining reasonably hard. In my VW Golf, and
> Jetta before that, any motion made the water run right off the top. My
> Scout had the same problem as the Jeep. That was the first vehicle I
> used it on and that truck didn't have working wipers or a washer pump so
> I figured Rain-X was cheaper than fixing them.
>
> Don't use it on plastic however. The manufacturer say you should not. I
> didn't listen and I tried it on a few motorcycle helmet visors and they
> turned foggy after a season of riding. I suspect it wouldn't be any
> better for vinyl either. It is solvent based and I'm sure the solvent
> would harm anything else derived from petrochemicals.
>
> Oh, and the 'wipes' don't really do the job and neither does the washer
> reservoir additive. You really need to apply it heavily to the window
> and spend the 10 minutes polishing it off with paper towels or some rags
> as the instructions tell you to do. The idea is to just fill in any
> irregularities in the glass, not put a layer of it over the whole
> windshield.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 10:47 PM

Re: Rain-X
 
Tim, I live in Southern California where I must drive in fog. You can
snow a snow bird, but you can't sh*t a Sh*t bird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Tim Hayes wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I strongly disagree. I've used Rain-X myself for well over 5 years and
> it has always lived up to the manufacturer's claims. The military uses a
> similar product on airplane canopies.
>
> The only issue if found with this product, and the ones like it, is that
> you need to apply it 'often'. If I don't re-apply after ever 3-4 weeks
> then it's not there when I need it. It also helps greatly to keep your
> windows clean (with water, not washer fluid) and avoid ever using your
> wipers. Washer fluid and wipers remove the film that is applied very
> quickly.
>
> Rain-X is like a 'wax' for you glass that fills in the microscopic pores
> in the glass and lowers the adhesion of polar molecules.
>
> I find that in the TJ because of the nearly vertical windshield there
> isn't much vertical airflow. This makes it hard for the water to run off
> at low speeds unless it is raining reasonably hard. In my VW Golf, and
> Jetta before that, any motion made the water run right off the top. My
> Scout had the same problem as the Jeep. That was the first vehicle I
> used it on and that truck didn't have working wipers or a washer pump so
> I figured Rain-X was cheaper than fixing them.
>
> Don't use it on plastic however. The manufacturer say you should not. I
> didn't listen and I tried it on a few motorcycle helmet visors and they
> turned foggy after a season of riding. I suspect it wouldn't be any
> better for vinyl either. It is solvent based and I'm sure the solvent
> would harm anything else derived from petrochemicals.
>
> Oh, and the 'wipes' don't really do the job and neither does the washer
> reservoir additive. You really need to apply it heavily to the window
> and spend the 10 minutes polishing it off with paper towels or some rags
> as the instructions tell you to do. The idea is to just fill in any
> irregularities in the glass, not put a layer of it over the whole
> windshield.



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