Re: Radiator problem
 

....that being said, you might also be able to seal the seam using epoxy or
jb weld or something of that sort...

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZtidnWuHBdkoXESi4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> The jeep radiators often leak around that seam. Mine included. You can
> either ignore it like I do or replace the radiator.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:Zh7Cb.366886$ao4.1230913@attbi_s51...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > The original poster's complaint is that he has to keep adding a cup of
> > > coolant. He didn't say he had to add it every day, and he didn't say
> that he
> > > ever added more than a cup. It seems perfectly plausable to me that if
> all
> > > he is adding is a cup, then maybe it simply doesn't want that last cup
> full
> > > of coolant to be added. So, it seems to be a logical question to ask
if
> it
> > > continues to spit coolant out if he neglects to top off that last cup
> that
> > > keeps getting spit out. If it doesn't lose any coolant after the first
> cup,
> > > then stop putting it back in and the problem will be solved.
> > >
> > > I am only going by what the original poster has already told us, and
he
> > > hasn't been back to tell us any more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
> > > news:7kOBb.359264$ao4.1198508@attbi_s51...
> > >
> > >>Roughly 12/9/03 20:40, CRWLR's monkeys randomly typed:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>If there is a hole, then the pressure issues you speak of will
continue
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > >>>be present, and the leak will not stop. And, if the leak does stop
> after
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > >>>single cup out of - how many? - 12 quarts, who cares? Move on.
> > >>
> > >> Ahh, I see. That first cup magically transports itself out of
> > >> your radiator, much like the missing socks in your sock drawer.
> > >> Not.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> > for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> > for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> > radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>

Re: Radiator problem
 

Ignore it at your own risk!

Leaks have a real nasty tendency to get bigger.

They also let air in. When the engine is hot, the fluid expands out
into the overflow jug. When the engine cools down, it sucks this fluid
back in. A leak will stop this from happening as the OP had noted, it
is easier to suck air back in.

Having a layer of air at the top of the system can easily allow the top
of the head to overheat which will fast bake out the valve guide seals
and turn your engine into a morning smoker that burns oil.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TJim wrote:
>
> The jeep radiators often leak around that seam. Mine included. You can
> either ignore it like I do or replace the radiator.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:Zh7Cb.366886$ao4.1230913@attbi_s51...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > The original poster's complaint is that he has to keep adding a cup of
> > > coolant. He didn't say he had to add it every day, and he didn't say
> that he
> > > ever added more than a cup. It seems perfectly plausable to me that if
> all
> > > he is adding is a cup, then maybe it simply doesn't want that last cup
> full
> > > of coolant to be added. So, it seems to be a logical question to ask if
> it
> > > continues to spit coolant out if he neglects to top off that last cup
> that
> > > keeps getting spit out. If it doesn't lose any coolant after the first
> cup,
> > > then stop putting it back in and the problem will be solved.
> > >
> > > I am only going by what the original poster has already told us, and he
> > > hasn't been back to tell us any more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
> > > news:7kOBb.359264$ao4.1198508@attbi_s51...
> > >
> > >>Roughly 12/9/03 20:40, CRWLR's monkeys randomly typed:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>If there is a hole, then the pressure issues you speak of will continue
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > >>>be present, and the leak will not stop. And, if the leak does stop
> after
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > >>>single cup out of - how many? - 12 quarts, who cares? Move on.
> > >>
> > >> Ahh, I see. That first cup magically transports itself out of
> > >> your radiator, much like the missing socks in your sock drawer.
> > >> Not.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> > for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> > for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> > radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >

Re: Radiator problem
 

Ignore it at your own risk!

Leaks have a real nasty tendency to get bigger.

They also let air in. When the engine is hot, the fluid expands out
into the overflow jug. When the engine cools down, it sucks this fluid
back in. A leak will stop this from happening as the OP had noted, it
is easier to suck air back in.

Having a layer of air at the top of the system can easily allow the top
of the head to overheat which will fast bake out the valve guide seals
and turn your engine into a morning smoker that burns oil.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TJim wrote:
>
> The jeep radiators often leak around that seam. Mine included. You can
> either ignore it like I do or replace the radiator.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:Zh7Cb.366886$ao4.1230913@attbi_s51...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > The original poster's complaint is that he has to keep adding a cup of
> > > coolant. He didn't say he had to add it every day, and he didn't say
> that he
> > > ever added more than a cup. It seems perfectly plausable to me that if
> all
> > > he is adding is a cup, then maybe it simply doesn't want that last cup
> full
> > > of coolant to be added. So, it seems to be a logical question to ask if
> it
> > > continues to spit coolant out if he neglects to top off that last cup
> that
> > > keeps getting spit out. If it doesn't lose any coolant after the first
> cup,
> > > then stop putting it back in and the problem will be solved.
> > >
> > > I am only going by what the original poster has already told us, and he
> > > hasn't been back to tell us any more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
> > > news:7kOBb.359264$ao4.1198508@attbi_s51...
> > >
> > >>Roughly 12/9/03 20:40, CRWLR's monkeys randomly typed:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>If there is a hole, then the pressure issues you speak of will continue
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > >>>be present, and the leak will not stop. And, if the leak does stop
> after
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > >>>single cup out of - how many? - 12 quarts, who cares? Move on.
> > >>
> > >> Ahh, I see. That first cup magically transports itself out of
> > >> your radiator, much like the missing socks in your sock drawer.
> > >> Not.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> > for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> > for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> > radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >

Re: Radiator problem
 

Ignore it at your own risk!

Leaks have a real nasty tendency to get bigger.

They also let air in. When the engine is hot, the fluid expands out
into the overflow jug. When the engine cools down, it sucks this fluid
back in. A leak will stop this from happening as the OP had noted, it
is easier to suck air back in.

Having a layer of air at the top of the system can easily allow the top
of the head to overheat which will fast bake out the valve guide seals
and turn your engine into a morning smoker that burns oil.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TJim wrote:
>
> The jeep radiators often leak around that seam. Mine included. You can
> either ignore it like I do or replace the radiator.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:Zh7Cb.366886$ao4.1230913@attbi_s51...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > The original poster's complaint is that he has to keep adding a cup of
> > > coolant. He didn't say he had to add it every day, and he didn't say
> that he
> > > ever added more than a cup. It seems perfectly plausable to me that if
> all
> > > he is adding is a cup, then maybe it simply doesn't want that last cup
> full
> > > of coolant to be added. So, it seems to be a logical question to ask if
> it
> > > continues to spit coolant out if he neglects to top off that last cup
> that
> > > keeps getting spit out. If it doesn't lose any coolant after the first
> cup,
> > > then stop putting it back in and the problem will be solved.
> > >
> > > I am only going by what the original poster has already told us, and he
> > > hasn't been back to tell us any more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
> > > news:7kOBb.359264$ao4.1198508@attbi_s51...
> > >
> > >>Roughly 12/9/03 20:40, CRWLR's monkeys randomly typed:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>If there is a hole, then the pressure issues you speak of will continue
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > >>>be present, and the leak will not stop. And, if the leak does stop
> after
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > >>>single cup out of - how many? - 12 quarts, who cares? Move on.
> > >>
> > >> Ahh, I see. That first cup magically transports itself out of
> > >> your radiator, much like the missing socks in your sock drawer.
> > >> Not.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> > for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> > for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> > radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >

Re: Radiator problem
 

> I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
>
> Thanks
>

You never rerplace lost antifreeze? It sounds like you always replace lost
antifreeze. You need a radiator.

This is not a particularly Jeep Thing, but the way that radiators are made
these days, it sounds reasonable that you need a new one. Yes, all you need
to do is replace the radiator. You should also replace the hoses at the same
time.

Re: Radiator problem
 

> I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
>
> Thanks
>

You never rerplace lost antifreeze? It sounds like you always replace lost
antifreeze. You need a radiator.

This is not a particularly Jeep Thing, but the way that radiators are made
these days, it sounds reasonable that you need a new one. Yes, all you need
to do is replace the radiator. You should also replace the hoses at the same
time.

Re: Radiator problem
 

> I never replace the lost antifreeze. It does this every time I drive it
> for any length of time. I was asking if this is a standard jeep thing
> for small amounts of coolant is visible where the top skirt of the
> radiator is crimped on, of do I just need to replace the radiator ?
>
> Thanks
>

You never rerplace lost antifreeze? It sounds like you always replace lost
antifreeze. You need a radiator.

This is not a particularly Jeep Thing, but the way that radiators are made
these days, it sounds reasonable that you need a new one. Yes, all you need
to do is replace the radiator. You should also replace the hoses at the same
time.

Re: Radiator problem
 

"Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
news:O79Cb.504623$HS4.3908808@attbi_s01...
> Jeepster wrote:
> > No it is not normal! I think people may have misread you original
> > post, if your rad is leaking along the top where it is mated to the
> > core you might need to take it to a rad shop or just replace it. I
> > recently had to replace the rad in my wifes Cherokee, I was going to
> > have it repaired but decided spending an extra few dollars on a new
> > one would be better in the long run.
> >
> > Yes, thats where its leaking. Guess its time to can it and buy a new
one.
> Thanks
>
Go online to www.radiatorbarn.com and check out what they have. You might
want to consider an upgrade at this time to a 3 core radiator instead of the
stock 2 core. Another consideration might be to get a metal radiator instead
of one with plastic tanks.

Re: Radiator problem
 

"Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
news:O79Cb.504623$HS4.3908808@attbi_s01...
> Jeepster wrote:
> > No it is not normal! I think people may have misread you original
> > post, if your rad is leaking along the top where it is mated to the
> > core you might need to take it to a rad shop or just replace it. I
> > recently had to replace the rad in my wifes Cherokee, I was going to
> > have it repaired but decided spending an extra few dollars on a new
> > one would be better in the long run.
> >
> > Yes, thats where its leaking. Guess its time to can it and buy a new
one.
> Thanks
>
Go online to www.radiatorbarn.com and check out what they have. You might
want to consider an upgrade at this time to a 3 core radiator instead of the
stock 2 core. Another consideration might be to get a metal radiator instead
of one with plastic tanks.

Re: Radiator problem
 

"Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
news:O79Cb.504623$HS4.3908808@attbi_s01...
> Jeepster wrote:
> > No it is not normal! I think people may have misread you original
> > post, if your rad is leaking along the top where it is mated to the
> > core you might need to take it to a rad shop or just replace it. I
> > recently had to replace the rad in my wifes Cherokee, I was going to
> > have it repaired but decided spending an extra few dollars on a new
> > one would be better in the long run.
> >
> > Yes, thats where its leaking. Guess its time to can it and buy a new
one.
> Thanks
>
Go online to www.radiatorbarn.com and check out what they have. You might
want to consider an upgrade at this time to a 3 core radiator instead of the
stock 2 core. Another consideration might be to get a metal radiator instead
of one with plastic tanks.