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Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general?
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > torx bit from Harley > > L8r - Jersey > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt > > > |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I have only gotten them out two ways.
One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the 'loctite'. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Matt wrote: > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I have only gotten them out two ways.
One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the 'loctite'. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Matt wrote: > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I have only gotten them out two ways.
One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the 'loctite'. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Matt wrote: > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I have only gotten them out two ways.
One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the 'loctite'. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Matt wrote: > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > 'loctite'. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Matt wrote: > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > 'loctite'. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Matt wrote: > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > 'loctite'. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Matt wrote: > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > 'loctite'. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Matt wrote: > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty
good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper have returned! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty
good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper have returned! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty
good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper have returned! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty
good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper have returned! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
The body side ones have nuts on the inside.
Mike SB wrote: > > punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no?? > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > > 'loctite'. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
The body side ones have nuts on the inside.
Mike SB wrote: > > punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no?? > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > > 'loctite'. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
The body side ones have nuts on the inside.
Mike SB wrote: > > punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no?? > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > > 'loctite'. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
The body side ones have nuts on the inside.
Mike SB wrote: > > punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no?? > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca... > > I have only gotten them out two ways. > > > > One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then > > replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the > > 'loctite'. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Matt did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! Try this. Put a cheater bar on the end and turn the bolt back and forth. When it starts to come out, put a little PB blaster on it then run it back in and out again. That helps get the stuff broken up and worked wonders on several bolts that were giving me grief. -- DougW |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Matt did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! Try this. Put a cheater bar on the end and turn the bolt back and forth. When it starts to come out, put a little PB blaster on it then run it back in and out again. That helps get the stuff broken up and worked wonders on several bolts that were giving me grief. -- DougW |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Matt did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! Try this. Put a cheater bar on the end and turn the bolt back and forth. When it starts to come out, put a little PB blaster on it then run it back in and out again. That helps get the stuff broken up and worked wonders on several bolts that were giving me grief. -- DougW |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
Matt did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! Try this. Put a cheater bar on the end and turn the bolt back and forth. When it starts to come out, put a little PB blaster on it then run it back in and out again. That helps get the stuff broken up and worked wonders on several bolts that were giving me grief. -- DougW |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint
BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? L8r - Jersey "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > torx bit from Harley > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint
BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? L8r - Jersey "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > torx bit from Harley > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint
BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? L8r - Jersey "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > torx bit from Harley > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint
BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? L8r - Jersey "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > torx bit from Harley > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405090829.40419aeb@posting.google.c om... > Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! > > Matt Another thing I forgot to mention, There is Torx & Torx Plus & they look the same & I have broken Lisle bits using a impact socket. L8r - Jersey |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405090829.40419aeb@posting.google.c om... > Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! > > Matt Another thing I forgot to mention, There is Torx & Torx Plus & they look the same & I have broken Lisle bits using a impact socket. L8r - Jersey |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405090829.40419aeb@posting.google.c om... > Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! > > Matt Another thing I forgot to mention, There is Torx & Torx Plus & they look the same & I have broken Lisle bits using a impact socket. L8r - Jersey |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405090829.40419aeb@posting.google.c om... > Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty > good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a > Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can > mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on > this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short > of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper > have returned! > > Matt Another thing I forgot to mention, There is Torx & Torx Plus & they look the same & I have broken Lisle bits using a impact socket. L8r - Jersey |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
touch up sticks??
You mean you cover the scratches on your jeep? haha Sorry....I baby'd my jeep for a while when I first bought it. But I always said....it gets pampered until I get the first scratch. I opened the door in a parking lot that was off camber and my door flew open and hit their mirror. But a knick on the edge of my door. SO...that was it...no more baby'ing!! haha "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:8fGdnUOMA4ew4wPd4p2dnA@comcast.com... > I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint > BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous > spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? > > L8r - Jersey > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > > torx bit from Harley > > > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
touch up sticks??
You mean you cover the scratches on your jeep? haha Sorry....I baby'd my jeep for a while when I first bought it. But I always said....it gets pampered until I get the first scratch. I opened the door in a parking lot that was off camber and my door flew open and hit their mirror. But a knick on the edge of my door. SO...that was it...no more baby'ing!! haha "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:8fGdnUOMA4ew4wPd4p2dnA@comcast.com... > I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint > BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous > spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? > > L8r - Jersey > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > > torx bit from Harley > > > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
touch up sticks??
You mean you cover the scratches on your jeep? haha Sorry....I baby'd my jeep for a while when I first bought it. But I always said....it gets pampered until I get the first scratch. I opened the door in a parking lot that was off camber and my door flew open and hit their mirror. But a knick on the edge of my door. SO...that was it...no more baby'ing!! haha "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:8fGdnUOMA4ew4wPd4p2dnA@comcast.com... > I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint > BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous > spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? > > L8r - Jersey > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > > torx bit from Harley > > > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
touch up sticks??
You mean you cover the scratches on your jeep? haha Sorry....I baby'd my jeep for a while when I first bought it. But I always said....it gets pampered until I get the first scratch. I opened the door in a parking lot that was off camber and my door flew open and hit their mirror. But a knick on the edge of my door. SO...that was it...no more baby'ing!! haha "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:8fGdnUOMA4ew4wPd4p2dnA@comcast.com... > I can't remember having any problems with this stuff removing paint > BUT it is a solvent so like they say you might want to try it in a inconspicuous > spot first. Besides ain't that why they make those touch up sticks? > > L8r - Jersey > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:p5qnc.16$n7P1.0@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... > > What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general? > > > > > > "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > > > > > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > > > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > > > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > > > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > > > > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > > > > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > > > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > > > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > > > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > > > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > > > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > > > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > > > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > > > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > > > torx bit from Harley > > > > > > L8r - Jersey > > > > > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact
socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact
socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact
socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact
socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
What a description!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Matt wrote: > > THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact > socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. > hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and > old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken > anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
What a description!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Matt wrote: > > THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact > socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. > hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and > old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken > anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
What a description!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Matt wrote: > > THANKS! Great advice, everybody! I got a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact > socket, put my Torx bit in that, and one monster whack with a 28 oz. > hammer brought these things FLYING out in a white cloud of Loctite and > old wax! Now the brackets are on, and I won't have my stones broken > anymore by the cops for having no mirrors!! > > Matt |
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