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question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I
had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear and the transmission seams "tighter" Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil in November and it drove much better until the mount was replaced. thanks, Brad. ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Explain 'torque down' on just what??
There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it that have points with the points together. This leaves almost an inch of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches rubber and stops the engine from twisting. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's brad smith wrote: > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > replaced. > > thanks, > Brad. > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Explain 'torque down' on just what??
There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it that have points with the points together. This leaves almost an inch of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches rubber and stops the engine from twisting. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's brad smith wrote: > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > replaced. > > thanks, > Brad. > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Explain 'torque down' on just what??
There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it that have points with the points together. This leaves almost an inch of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches rubber and stops the engine from twisting. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's brad smith wrote: > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > replaced. > > thanks, > Brad. > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those
rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist slightly I'll check, thanks. Brad. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it that > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an inch of > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches rubber and > stops the engine from twisting. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > brad smith wrote: > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > replaced. > > > > thanks, > > Brad. > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those
rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist slightly I'll check, thanks. Brad. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it that > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an inch of > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches rubber and > stops the engine from twisting. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > brad smith wrote: > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > replaced. > > > > thanks, > > Brad. > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those
rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist slightly I'll check, thanks. Brad. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it that > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an inch of > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches rubber and > stops the engine from twisting. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > brad smith wrote: > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and I > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first gear > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, anything > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear oil > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > replaced. > > > > thanks, > > Brad. > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The first one I saw had me wondering too.
Mike brad smith wrote: > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > slightly > > I'll check, thanks. > Brad. > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > that > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > inch of > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > rubber and > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > I > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > gear > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > anything > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > oil > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > replaced. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Brad. > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The first one I saw had me wondering too.
Mike brad smith wrote: > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > slightly > > I'll check, thanks. > Brad. > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > that > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > inch of > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > rubber and > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > I > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > gear > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > anything > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > oil > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > replaced. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Brad. > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The first one I saw had me wondering too.
Mike brad smith wrote: > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > slightly > > I'll check, thanks. > Brad. > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > that > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > inch of > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > rubber and > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > I > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > gear > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > anything > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > oil > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > replaced. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Brad. > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Hey guys,
I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed it. -- Thanks Always !!! Paul '75 CJ5 258 Vail, CO. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:403618B5.CED586C1@sympatico.ca... > The first one I saw had me wondering too. > > Mike > > brad smith wrote: > > > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > > slightly > > > > I'll check, thanks. > > Brad. > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > > that > > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > > inch of > > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > > rubber and > > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > > I > > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > > gear > > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > > anything > > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > > oil > > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > > replaced. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad. > > > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Hey guys,
I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed it. -- Thanks Always !!! Paul '75 CJ5 258 Vail, CO. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:403618B5.CED586C1@sympatico.ca... > The first one I saw had me wondering too. > > Mike > > brad smith wrote: > > > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > > slightly > > > > I'll check, thanks. > > Brad. > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > > that > > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > > inch of > > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > > rubber and > > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > > I > > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > > gear > > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > > anything > > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > > oil > > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > > replaced. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad. > > > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Hey guys,
I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed it. -- Thanks Always !!! Paul '75 CJ5 258 Vail, CO. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:403618B5.CED586C1@sympatico.ca... > The first one I saw had me wondering too. > > Mike > > brad smith wrote: > > > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > > slightly > > > > I'll check, thanks. > > Brad. > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > > that > > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > > inch of > > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > > rubber and > > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > > I > > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > > gear > > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > > anything > > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > > oil > > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > > replaced. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad. > > > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The one inch play is an exaggeration. the bushings butt up against
the transfer mount and cross member. You don't need to give it any measured clearance as the threads stop on the shank before it's too tight, like this Dana 18: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Paul Brogren wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after > reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just > tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a > touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed > like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was > ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed > it. > > -- > Thanks Always !!! > Paul '75 CJ5 258 > Vail, CO. |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The one inch play is an exaggeration. the bushings butt up against
the transfer mount and cross member. You don't need to give it any measured clearance as the threads stop on the shank before it's too tight, like this Dana 18: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Paul Brogren wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after > reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just > tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a > touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed > like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was > ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed > it. > > -- > Thanks Always !!! > Paul '75 CJ5 258 > Vail, CO. |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The one inch play is an exaggeration. the bushings butt up against
the transfer mount and cross member. You don't need to give it any measured clearance as the threads stop on the shank before it's too tight, like this Dana 18: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Paul Brogren wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after > reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just > tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a > touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed > like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was > ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed > it. > > -- > Thanks Always !!! > Paul '75 CJ5 258 > Vail, CO. |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The two rubber bushings on the outrigger mount are cone shaped on the
T-5 and sr4 mounts. When installing them, a flat washer first, then one bushing cone point up, then the outrigger bar fits on, then the second bushing, cone point down, then a flat washer, then a nut. There is almost 1" of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it comes up hard on the bushings. This is like 3/8 to 1/2" up and 3/8 to 1/2" down for a total of 3/4 to 1" of play. Maybe only 5/8" when brand new, but no less. The unit Bill is showing is not what I am talking about. This outrigger is on the driver's side. I have a photo here that anyone can view. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987 Mike Paul Brogren wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after > reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just > tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a > touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed > like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was > ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed > it. > > -- > Thanks Always !!! > Paul '75 CJ5 258 > Vail, CO. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:403618B5.CED586C1@sympatico.ca... > > The first one I saw had me wondering too. > > > > Mike > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > > > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > > > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > > > slightly > > > > > > I'll check, thanks. > > > Brad. > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > > > that > > > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > > > inch of > > > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > > > rubber and > > > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > > > I > > > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > > > gear > > > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > > > anything > > > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > > > oil > > > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > > > replaced. > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Brad. > > > > > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The two rubber bushings on the outrigger mount are cone shaped on the
T-5 and sr4 mounts. When installing them, a flat washer first, then one bushing cone point up, then the outrigger bar fits on, then the second bushing, cone point down, then a flat washer, then a nut. There is almost 1" of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it comes up hard on the bushings. This is like 3/8 to 1/2" up and 3/8 to 1/2" down for a total of 3/4 to 1" of play. Maybe only 5/8" when brand new, but no less. The unit Bill is showing is not what I am talking about. This outrigger is on the driver's side. I have a photo here that anyone can view. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987 Mike Paul Brogren wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after > reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just > tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a > touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed > like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was > ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed > it. > > -- > Thanks Always !!! > Paul '75 CJ5 258 > Vail, CO. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:403618B5.CED586C1@sympatico.ca... > > The first one I saw had me wondering too. > > > > Mike > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > > > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > > > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > > > slightly > > > > > > I'll check, thanks. > > > Brad. > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > > > that > > > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > > > inch of > > > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > > > rubber and > > > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > > > I > > > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > > > gear > > > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > > > anything > > > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > > > oil > > > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > > > replaced. > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Brad. > > > > > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
The two rubber bushings on the outrigger mount are cone shaped on the
T-5 and sr4 mounts. When installing them, a flat washer first, then one bushing cone point up, then the outrigger bar fits on, then the second bushing, cone point down, then a flat washer, then a nut. There is almost 1" of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it comes up hard on the bushings. This is like 3/8 to 1/2" up and 3/8 to 1/2" down for a total of 3/4 to 1" of play. Maybe only 5/8" when brand new, but no less. The unit Bill is showing is not what I am talking about. This outrigger is on the driver's side. I have a photo here that anyone can view. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987 Mike Paul Brogren wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm wondering if I goofed up my Tcase reinstall on my '75 CJ 5 after > reading Brad's post? These rubber mounts that are on my tcase I just > tightned up. Rubber to rubber. I know my tranny mount is shot, but I'm a > touch confused at what these should look like. A 1 inch free play seemed > like a lot when re-installing. It was my first tcase removal so I was > ignorant and didn't pay attention to gaps or any free-play when I removed > it. > > -- > Thanks Always !!! > Paul '75 CJ5 258 > Vail, CO. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:403618B5.CED586C1@sympatico.ca... > > The first one I saw had me wondering too. > > > > Mike > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > I think that might be my problem, I need to check to see if those > > > rubber grommets have the points together or apart. I did not > > > realize that bar had free play for the transmission to twist > > > slightly > > > > > > I'll check, thanks. > > > Brad. > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:40354097.179B5BFA@sympatico.ca... > > > > Explain 'torque down' on just what?? > > > > > > > > There is an outrigger mount or torque bracket. > > > > > > > > The mount for this is a bolt that has two rubber grommets on it > > > that > > > > have points with the points together. This leaves almost an > > > inch of > > > > free up and down play on the outrigger bar before it touches > > > rubber and > > > > stops the engine from twisting. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > brad smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just replaced my engine mounts and transmission mounts and > > > I > > > > > had to really torque down the "torque bracket" on the > > > > > transmission. I now have a hard time shifting into first > > > gear > > > > > and the transmission seams "tighter" > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to loosen the bracket, if so how much. also, > > > anything > > > > > else I should check? I refilled the transmission (sr-4) gear > > > oil > > > > > in November and it drove much better until the mount was > > > > > replaced. > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Brad. > > > > > > > > > > ps, 258:sr-4:d300 |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Thanks Mike, for the picture, it was worth a thousand words.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > The two rubber bushings on the outrigger mount are cone shaped on the > T-5 and sr4 mounts. > > When installing them, a flat washer first, then one bushing cone point > up, then the outrigger bar fits on, then the second bushing, cone point > down, then a flat washer, then a nut. > > There is almost 1" of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before > it comes up hard on the bushings. This is like 3/8 to 1/2" up and 3/8 > to 1/2" down for a total of 3/4 to 1" of play. Maybe only 5/8" when > brand new, but no less. > > The unit Bill is showing is not what I am talking about. This outrigger > is on the driver's side. I have a photo here that anyone can view. > > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987 > > Mike |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Thanks Mike, for the picture, it was worth a thousand words.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > The two rubber bushings on the outrigger mount are cone shaped on the > T-5 and sr4 mounts. > > When installing them, a flat washer first, then one bushing cone point > up, then the outrigger bar fits on, then the second bushing, cone point > down, then a flat washer, then a nut. > > There is almost 1" of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before > it comes up hard on the bushings. This is like 3/8 to 1/2" up and 3/8 > to 1/2" down for a total of 3/4 to 1" of play. Maybe only 5/8" when > brand new, but no less. > > The unit Bill is showing is not what I am talking about. This outrigger > is on the driver's side. I have a photo here that anyone can view. > > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987 > > Mike |
Re: question about transmission torq bracket and mounting
Thanks Mike, for the picture, it was worth a thousand words.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Mike Romain wrote: > > The two rubber bushings on the outrigger mount are cone shaped on the > T-5 and sr4 mounts. > > When installing them, a flat washer first, then one bushing cone point > up, then the outrigger bar fits on, then the second bushing, cone point > down, then a flat washer, then a nut. > > There is almost 1" of free up and down play on the outrigger bar before > it comes up hard on the bushings. This is like 3/8 to 1/2" up and 3/8 > to 1/2" down for a total of 3/4 to 1" of play. Maybe only 5/8" when > brand new, but no less. > > The unit Bill is showing is not what I am talking about. This outrigger > is on the driver's side. I have a photo here that anyone can view. > > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987 > > Mike |
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