Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
If your case is pre-Allied Signal, you should be OK.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:445D293C.B8506D02@cox.net... > Hi Earle, > I use Fram, mostly because I still have a case left, but they are > on all my cars, two with over three hundred thousand miles. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Earle Horton wrote: >> >> I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent. >> >> Earle |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
If your case is pre-Allied Signal, you should be OK.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:445D293C.B8506D02@cox.net... > Hi Earle, > I use Fram, mostly because I still have a case left, but they are > on all my cars, two with over three hundred thousand miles. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Earle Horton wrote: >> >> I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent. >> >> Earle |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
If your case is pre-Allied Signal, you should be OK.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:445D293C.B8506D02@cox.net... > Hi Earle, > I use Fram, mostly because I still have a case left, but they are > on all my cars, two with over three hundred thousand miles. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Earle Horton wrote: >> >> I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent. >> >> Earle |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Yup, I have a Motorcraft FL-1 filter on mine. XJ's would have some problem
because of the right angle filter adaper, not much room in the engine bay for a larger filter. "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message news:445e10d2$0$23765$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > The 4.0 liter engine originally used a PH3985 or equivalent, with a metric > filter adapter having 20mm-1.5mm thread. In 1991, Jeep switched to a PH16 > with 3/4-16, which is what many Chrysler products used. This appears to > have the same base as the larger PH8, used on older Ford and Chrysler > engines. > > Can you substitute the one quart filter for the half quart filter? I > suppose so, but I have never done it. > > Earle > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:445DACB7.C9361868@cox.net... >> I lost all my cross stuff. The AMC six is different from what all >> Ford and Chrysler products used, and they didn't fit any GM. >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> billy ray wrote: >> > >> > I seen on the web where the Jeep 4 liter will accept the Ford V-8 > filters >> > (FL-1) > > |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Yup, I have a Motorcraft FL-1 filter on mine. XJ's would have some problem
because of the right angle filter adaper, not much room in the engine bay for a larger filter. "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message news:445e10d2$0$23765$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > The 4.0 liter engine originally used a PH3985 or equivalent, with a metric > filter adapter having 20mm-1.5mm thread. In 1991, Jeep switched to a PH16 > with 3/4-16, which is what many Chrysler products used. This appears to > have the same base as the larger PH8, used on older Ford and Chrysler > engines. > > Can you substitute the one quart filter for the half quart filter? I > suppose so, but I have never done it. > > Earle > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:445DACB7.C9361868@cox.net... >> I lost all my cross stuff. The AMC six is different from what all >> Ford and Chrysler products used, and they didn't fit any GM. >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> billy ray wrote: >> > >> > I seen on the web where the Jeep 4 liter will accept the Ford V-8 > filters >> > (FL-1) > > |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Yup, I have a Motorcraft FL-1 filter on mine. XJ's would have some problem
because of the right angle filter adaper, not much room in the engine bay for a larger filter. "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message news:445e10d2$0$23765$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > The 4.0 liter engine originally used a PH3985 or equivalent, with a metric > filter adapter having 20mm-1.5mm thread. In 1991, Jeep switched to a PH16 > with 3/4-16, which is what many Chrysler products used. This appears to > have the same base as the larger PH8, used on older Ford and Chrysler > engines. > > Can you substitute the one quart filter for the half quart filter? I > suppose so, but I have never done it. > > Earle > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:445DACB7.C9361868@cox.net... >> I lost all my cross stuff. The AMC six is different from what all >> Ford and Chrysler products used, and they didn't fit any GM. >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> billy ray wrote: >> > >> > I seen on the web where the Jeep 4 liter will accept the Ford V-8 > filters >> > (FL-1) > > |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
"DaveW" <spsffan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:FKg7g.2757$0d3.1052@trnddc08... > > > Sorry for the top post, but: > > Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the > following: > > 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down so > that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and into > the pan when not running. ??? Filter sits horizontal, not upside down on the 4.0L. > > 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on 3 > vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure > overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator > was an exception...they always worked. I've found the opposite. For my Super Duty V10, the Mobil 1 filter actually had worse start-up pressure than anything. I use Motorcraft filters, which I believe are made by Purolator. > > 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the > construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it always > worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap actually > works better in service than the more logical systems used in other > filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace "Xbrand" > filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The Frams always > assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced at the next oil > change. Consider that what you may be seeing is the Frams filter so poorly that the oil reaches pressure downstream of the filter sooner . > > 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the anti-drainback > function. > Then what's the point of a filter? |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
"DaveW" <spsffan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:FKg7g.2757$0d3.1052@trnddc08... > > > Sorry for the top post, but: > > Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the > following: > > 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down so > that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and into > the pan when not running. ??? Filter sits horizontal, not upside down on the 4.0L. > > 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on 3 > vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure > overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator > was an exception...they always worked. I've found the opposite. For my Super Duty V10, the Mobil 1 filter actually had worse start-up pressure than anything. I use Motorcraft filters, which I believe are made by Purolator. > > 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the > construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it always > worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap actually > works better in service than the more logical systems used in other > filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace "Xbrand" > filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The Frams always > assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced at the next oil > change. Consider that what you may be seeing is the Frams filter so poorly that the oil reaches pressure downstream of the filter sooner . > > 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the anti-drainback > function. > Then what's the point of a filter? |
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
"DaveW" <spsffan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:FKg7g.2757$0d3.1052@trnddc08... > > > Sorry for the top post, but: > > Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the > following: > > 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down so > that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and into > the pan when not running. ??? Filter sits horizontal, not upside down on the 4.0L. > > 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on 3 > vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure > overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator > was an exception...they always worked. I've found the opposite. For my Super Duty V10, the Mobil 1 filter actually had worse start-up pressure than anything. I use Motorcraft filters, which I believe are made by Purolator. > > 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the > construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it always > worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap actually > works better in service than the more logical systems used in other > filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace "Xbrand" > filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The Frams always > assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced at the next oil > change. Consider that what you may be seeing is the Frams filter so poorly that the oil reaches pressure downstream of the filter sooner . > > 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the anti-drainback > function. > Then what's the point of a filter? |
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