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Greg 01-13-2005 12:04 PM

Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to 304
as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do all
swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?



Charlie Dellacona 01-13-2005 01:48 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?


Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust manifolds,
carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?

I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
needed almost nothing.

If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
whatever HP/specs you want.

Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive the
jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
bit.



Charlie Dellacona 01-13-2005 01:48 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?


Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust manifolds,
carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?

I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
needed almost nothing.

If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
whatever HP/specs you want.

Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive the
jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
bit.



Charlie Dellacona 01-13-2005 01:48 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?


Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust manifolds,
carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?

I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
needed almost nothing.

If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
whatever HP/specs you want.

Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive the
jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
bit.



Greg 01-13-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
Thanks, like you I don't need the extra power, just figured if everything
was just a direct swap then what the hell.

"Charlie Dellacona" <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:QtWdnfvRCJYcX3vcRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
>> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
>> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
>> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
>> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
>> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?

>
> Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust
> manifolds,
> carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?
>
> I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
> needed almost nothing.
>
> If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
> Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
> an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
> whatever HP/specs you want.
>
> Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive
> the
> jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
> bit.
>
>




Greg 01-13-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
Thanks, like you I don't need the extra power, just figured if everything
was just a direct swap then what the hell.

"Charlie Dellacona" <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:QtWdnfvRCJYcX3vcRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
>> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
>> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
>> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
>> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
>> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?

>
> Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust
> manifolds,
> carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?
>
> I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
> needed almost nothing.
>
> If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
> Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
> an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
> whatever HP/specs you want.
>
> Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive
> the
> jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
> bit.
>
>




Greg 01-13-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
Thanks, like you I don't need the extra power, just figured if everything
was just a direct swap then what the hell.

"Charlie Dellacona" <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:QtWdnfvRCJYcX3vcRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
>> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
>> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
>> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
>> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
>> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?

>
> Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust
> manifolds,
> carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?
>
> I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
> needed almost nothing.
>
> If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
> Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
> an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
> whatever HP/specs you want.
>
> Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive
> the
> jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
> bit.
>
>




Mike Romain 01-13-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
I know the engine mounts are different. The mount pad also go reverse
with the torque hooks on the other side.

I would imagine the rad is different, the 258 rad is barely enough for
the 6.

I too would have gone 350 if V8, but stayed with the 258. Once the
computer is gone out of the ignition they go pretty good.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, like you I don't need the extra power, just figured if everything
> was just a direct swap then what the hell.
>
> "Charlie Dellacona" <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QtWdnfvRCJYcX3vcRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
> >> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
> >> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
> >> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
> >> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
> >> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?

> >
> > Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust
> > manifolds,
> > carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?
> >
> > I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
> > needed almost nothing.
> >
> > If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
> > Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
> > an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
> > whatever HP/specs you want.
> >
> > Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive
> > the
> > jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
> > bit.
> >
> >


Mike Romain 01-13-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
I know the engine mounts are different. The mount pad also go reverse
with the torque hooks on the other side.

I would imagine the rad is different, the 258 rad is barely enough for
the 6.

I too would have gone 350 if V8, but stayed with the 258. Once the
computer is gone out of the ignition they go pretty good.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, like you I don't need the extra power, just figured if everything
> was just a direct swap then what the hell.
>
> "Charlie Dellacona" <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QtWdnfvRCJYcX3vcRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
> >> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
> >> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
> >> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
> >> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
> >> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?

> >
> > Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust
> > manifolds,
> > carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?
> >
> > I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
> > needed almost nothing.
> >
> > If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
> > Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
> > an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
> > whatever HP/specs you want.
> >
> > Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive
> > the
> > jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
> > bit.
> >
> >


Mike Romain 01-13-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Question on 258 to 304 swap
 
I know the engine mounts are different. The mount pad also go reverse
with the torque hooks on the other side.

I would imagine the rad is different, the 258 rad is barely enough for
the 6.

I too would have gone 350 if V8, but stayed with the 258. Once the
computer is gone out of the ignition they go pretty good.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, like you I don't need the extra power, just figured if everything
> was just a direct swap then what the hell.
>
> "Charlie Dellacona" <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QtWdnfvRCJYcX3vcRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:aSxFd.68064$8l.32156@pd7tw1no...
> >> Next couple months I will be getting a remaned engine to replace my 258,
> >> ( 81 CJ7 ) as I wont be sending the core back, ( $150.00 core charge, I
> >> think shipping will be 1/2 that ) is there any difference in the 258 to
> >> 304 as far as the parts I have to swap over on a remanned long block, do
> >> all swap, some swap, or not worth the trouble for a few more horses?

> >
> > Other than the obvious distributor and wires, intake and exhaust
> > manifolds,
> > carb, front exhaust, oil pan, valve covers, and probably the radiator?
> >
> > I just did this and chose to go with a 258 for exactly this reason. Swap
> > needed almost nothing.
> >
> > If I was going to bite the bullet and do a V8, I'd do a Chevy small block.
> > Its a bigger job, you'd probably need a new transmission, but you have
> > an engine that still has parts available. Plus you can get one built to
> > whatever HP/specs you want.
> >
> > Almost did this but when I thought about it the 258 was enough, I drive
> > the
> > jeep easy. I have gone to an HEI distributor and Weber carb, they help a
> > bit.
> >
> >



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