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Jd Lyall 05-31-2006 04:17 PM

putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
Is it too big?

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-31-2006 04:47 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
Should fit perfectly: http://www.----------.com/460cummins.jpg
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Jd Lyall wrote:
>
> Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
> Is it too big?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-31-2006 04:47 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
Should fit perfectly: http://www.----------.com/460cummins.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jd Lyall wrote:
>
> Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
> Is it too big?


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-31-2006 04:47 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
Should fit perfectly: http://www.----------.com/460cummins.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jd Lyall wrote:
>
> Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
> Is it too big?


Earle Horton 05-31-2006 05:18 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
This has been discussed ad nauseam here. The six cylinders from over the
road trucks are probably too big, but a four might fit, if you can get your
hands on one. UPS and other users of mid-sized diesels rebuild them and
rebuild them, until they can't be rebuilt any more, then send them back to
the manufacturer, who magically reconditions the blocks, for another million
miles or so of use. Opportunities for a junkyard shopper to "pick one up"
in usable condition are few and far between.

A Cummins from a diesel pickup, maybe. If you can get your hands on one,
the engine cost is likely to exceed the value of your Wagoneer.

Earle

"Jd Lyall" <jdlyall@bounce.net> wrote in message
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> Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
> Is it too big?




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Earle Horton 05-31-2006 05:18 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
This has been discussed ad nauseam here. The six cylinders from over the
road trucks are probably too big, but a four might fit, if you can get your
hands on one. UPS and other users of mid-sized diesels rebuild them and
rebuild them, until they can't be rebuilt any more, then send them back to
the manufacturer, who magically reconditions the blocks, for another million
miles or so of use. Opportunities for a junkyard shopper to "pick one up"
in usable condition are few and far between.

A Cummins from a diesel pickup, maybe. If you can get your hands on one,
the engine cost is likely to exceed the value of your Wagoneer.

Earle

"Jd Lyall" <jdlyall@bounce.net> wrote in message
news:DRmfg.3700$_m5.1927@fed1read09...
> Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
> Is it too big?




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Earle Horton 05-31-2006 05:18 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 
This has been discussed ad nauseam here. The six cylinders from over the
road trucks are probably too big, but a four might fit, if you can get your
hands on one. UPS and other users of mid-sized diesels rebuild them and
rebuild them, until they can't be rebuilt any more, then send them back to
the manufacturer, who magically reconditions the blocks, for another million
miles or so of use. Opportunities for a junkyard shopper to "pick one up"
in usable condition are few and far between.

A Cummins from a diesel pickup, maybe. If you can get your hands on one,
the engine cost is likely to exceed the value of your Wagoneer.

Earle

"Jd Lyall" <jdlyall@bounce.net> wrote in message
news:DRmfg.3700$_m5.1927@fed1read09...
> Tile says it. Anybody ever seen a Cummins diesel put into one of these?
> Is it too big?




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Bret Ludwig 06-14-2006 01:24 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> This has been discussed ad nauseam here. The six cylinders from over the
> road trucks are probably too big, but a four might fit, if you can get your
> hands on one. UPS and other users of mid-sized diesels rebuild them and
> rebuild them, until they can't be rebuilt any more, then send them back to
> the manufacturer, who magically reconditions the blocks, for another million
> miles or so of use. Opportunities for a junkyard shopper to "pick one up"
> in usable condition are few and far between.
>
> A Cummins from a diesel pickup, maybe. If you can get your hands on one,
> the engine cost is likely to exceed the value of your Wagoneer.



The 866 cid Cummins has no four cylinder version, but if it did, it
sure as hell would not fit, as it would be the same size as the 4-71 or
Series 50 Detroits.

Medium and light duty diesels are not in terribly short supply. The
commonest is the five cylinder Benz, but Isuzu, Mits, UD/Nissan, Deutz
(there are liquid cooled Deutzes btw), and Iveco engines are out there.
People who say they are not available are LIARS, like the
untempleworthy-yes, I worote their stake president, lying is against
the Word of Wisdom and unbecoming to the Church in the eyes of Saints
and gentiles-Novak, or just too stupid to look in the right places.

There is a four cylinder B Cummins that will fit beautifully, but it
is a low revving high torque engine and it will tear up drivelines
beautifully.

Your best realistic swap is probably an Isuzu or Nissan. A turbo SD33
or SD42 will fit where the AMC six will, bellhousings can be had, power
is not tremendous but adequate-if you have the turbo and the right
gears.

The 6.5 GM engine is not my favorite but is reasonably OK when
de-electronified and well cared for and plentiful. I would rather have
a Isuzu or Nissan.

The VM Cento six used in RPS trucks and in some German Jag saloon
swaps looks appealing as well.


Bret Ludwig 06-14-2006 01:24 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> This has been discussed ad nauseam here. The six cylinders from over the
> road trucks are probably too big, but a four might fit, if you can get your
> hands on one. UPS and other users of mid-sized diesels rebuild them and
> rebuild them, until they can't be rebuilt any more, then send them back to
> the manufacturer, who magically reconditions the blocks, for another million
> miles or so of use. Opportunities for a junkyard shopper to "pick one up"
> in usable condition are few and far between.
>
> A Cummins from a diesel pickup, maybe. If you can get your hands on one,
> the engine cost is likely to exceed the value of your Wagoneer.



The 866 cid Cummins has no four cylinder version, but if it did, it
sure as hell would not fit, as it would be the same size as the 4-71 or
Series 50 Detroits.

Medium and light duty diesels are not in terribly short supply. The
commonest is the five cylinder Benz, but Isuzu, Mits, UD/Nissan, Deutz
(there are liquid cooled Deutzes btw), and Iveco engines are out there.
People who say they are not available are LIARS, like the
untempleworthy-yes, I worote their stake president, lying is against
the Word of Wisdom and unbecoming to the Church in the eyes of Saints
and gentiles-Novak, or just too stupid to look in the right places.

There is a four cylinder B Cummins that will fit beautifully, but it
is a low revving high torque engine and it will tear up drivelines
beautifully.

Your best realistic swap is probably an Isuzu or Nissan. A turbo SD33
or SD42 will fit where the AMC six will, bellhousings can be had, power
is not tremendous but adequate-if you have the turbo and the right
gears.

The 6.5 GM engine is not my favorite but is reasonably OK when
de-electronified and well cared for and plentiful. I would rather have
a Isuzu or Nissan.

The VM Cento six used in RPS trucks and in some German Jag saloon
swaps looks appealing as well.


Bret Ludwig 06-14-2006 01:24 PM

Re: putting a Cummins into a big Wagoneer?
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> This has been discussed ad nauseam here. The six cylinders from over the
> road trucks are probably too big, but a four might fit, if you can get your
> hands on one. UPS and other users of mid-sized diesels rebuild them and
> rebuild them, until they can't be rebuilt any more, then send them back to
> the manufacturer, who magically reconditions the blocks, for another million
> miles or so of use. Opportunities for a junkyard shopper to "pick one up"
> in usable condition are few and far between.
>
> A Cummins from a diesel pickup, maybe. If you can get your hands on one,
> the engine cost is likely to exceed the value of your Wagoneer.



The 866 cid Cummins has no four cylinder version, but if it did, it
sure as hell would not fit, as it would be the same size as the 4-71 or
Series 50 Detroits.

Medium and light duty diesels are not in terribly short supply. The
commonest is the five cylinder Benz, but Isuzu, Mits, UD/Nissan, Deutz
(there are liquid cooled Deutzes btw), and Iveco engines are out there.
People who say they are not available are LIARS, like the
untempleworthy-yes, I worote their stake president, lying is against
the Word of Wisdom and unbecoming to the Church in the eyes of Saints
and gentiles-Novak, or just too stupid to look in the right places.

There is a four cylinder B Cummins that will fit beautifully, but it
is a low revving high torque engine and it will tear up drivelines
beautifully.

Your best realistic swap is probably an Isuzu or Nissan. A turbo SD33
or SD42 will fit where the AMC six will, bellhousings can be had, power
is not tremendous but adequate-if you have the turbo and the right
gears.

The 6.5 GM engine is not my favorite but is reasonably OK when
de-electronified and well cared for and plentiful. I would rather have
a Isuzu or Nissan.

The VM Cento six used in RPS trucks and in some German Jag saloon
swaps looks appealing as well.



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