Re: Problems with instrument panel
On Oct 14, 4:59 pm, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote:
> Around 10/14/2007 12:56 PM, cleverthingsnevers...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I drive a '93 YJ wrangler and the other day the instrument cluster > > containing speedometer went out and then later the other cluster > > containing the fuel gauge and oil pressure gauge went out. Both > > clusters going out simultaneously would indicate its a common problem, > > maybe in the electrical system? I've checked all the fuses under the > > dash and in the power distribution center under the hood and they all > > look good. > > When I bought mine, the speedo, temp, and oil pressure gauges weren't > working. In my case, the three were unrelated. > > The speedo problem was a corroded ground trace on the flexible circuit, > right where it folds sharply behind the tach. I was able to carefully > remove the circuit from the tach/speedo assembly, scrape off the > corroded section, and fill in the gap with solder. It's working > beautifully now, but I'll never know the true mileage. > > The other two on mine ended up being bad senders, easily replaced for a > few bucks. > > Here's the troubleshooting steps for the oil and fuel senders from the > factory service manual: > > OIL PRESSURE SENDER > (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. > (2) Unplug oil pressure sender connector from oil > pressure sender. > (3) Touch connector to engine block (ground). > Gauge should read at low end of scale. > (4) When connector is NOT touching ground (open > circuit) gauge should read at high end of scale. If OK > replace sender. If not, proceed with step 5. > (5) Check circuit between sender and gauge for an > open. Repair as required. If wiring is OK, replace > gauge. > > FUEL GAUGE SENDER > (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. > (2) Separate fuel gauge sender connector from fuel > gauge sender near tank. > (3) Ground the center wire of the body harness > side of the connector. The gauge should read at low > end of scale. If OK, check sending unit (step 4). If > not, check circuit between connector and gauge. Repair > as required. If circuit is OK, replace gauge. > (4) Turn ignition switch to OFF. > (5) Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector > center terminal to a clean chassis ground. > Meter readings should correspond to those shown in > Specifications. If not OK, replace sender. If OK, repair > open from fuel gauge sender connector to > ground. > > -- > ~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5 > { }|||||||{ } "MukYJ" "Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector > center terminal to a clean chassis ground. > Meter readings should correspond to those shown in > Specifications." Does anyone know what these meter reading should be?? I don't have a manual and the specifications I have found on the internet all seem to be different. |
Re: Problems with instrument panel
On Oct 14, 4:59 pm, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote:
> Around 10/14/2007 12:56 PM, cleverthingsnevers...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I drive a '93 YJ wrangler and the other day the instrument cluster > > containing speedometer went out and then later the other cluster > > containing the fuel gauge and oil pressure gauge went out. Both > > clusters going out simultaneously would indicate its a common problem, > > maybe in the electrical system? I've checked all the fuses under the > > dash and in the power distribution center under the hood and they all > > look good. > > When I bought mine, the speedo, temp, and oil pressure gauges weren't > working. In my case, the three were unrelated. > > The speedo problem was a corroded ground trace on the flexible circuit, > right where it folds sharply behind the tach. I was able to carefully > remove the circuit from the tach/speedo assembly, scrape off the > corroded section, and fill in the gap with solder. It's working > beautifully now, but I'll never know the true mileage. > > The other two on mine ended up being bad senders, easily replaced for a > few bucks. > > Here's the troubleshooting steps for the oil and fuel senders from the > factory service manual: > > OIL PRESSURE SENDER > (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. > (2) Unplug oil pressure sender connector from oil > pressure sender. > (3) Touch connector to engine block (ground). > Gauge should read at low end of scale. > (4) When connector is NOT touching ground (open > circuit) gauge should read at high end of scale. If OK > replace sender. If not, proceed with step 5. > (5) Check circuit between sender and gauge for an > open. Repair as required. If wiring is OK, replace > gauge. > > FUEL GAUGE SENDER > (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. > (2) Separate fuel gauge sender connector from fuel > gauge sender near tank. > (3) Ground the center wire of the body harness > side of the connector. The gauge should read at low > end of scale. If OK, check sending unit (step 4). If > not, check circuit between connector and gauge. Repair > as required. If circuit is OK, replace gauge. > (4) Turn ignition switch to OFF. > (5) Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector > center terminal to a clean chassis ground. > Meter readings should correspond to those shown in > Specifications. If not OK, replace sender. If OK, repair > open from fuel gauge sender connector to > ground. > > -- > ~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5 > { }|||||||{ } "MukYJ" "Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector > center terminal to a clean chassis ground. > Meter readings should correspond to those shown in > Specifications." Does anyone know what these meter reading should be?? I don't have a manual and the specifications I have found on the internet all seem to be different. |
Re: Problems with instrument panel
Around 10/23/2007 8:53 AM, jason.mcdannold@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 4:59 pm, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote: > >> FUEL GAUGE SENDER >> (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. >> (2) Separate fuel gauge sender connector from fuel >> gauge sender near tank. >> (3) Ground the center wire of the body harness >> side of the connector. The gauge should read at low >> end of scale. If OK, check sending unit (step 4). If >> not, check circuit between connector and gauge. Repair >> as required. If circuit is OK, replace gauge. >> (4) Turn ignition switch to OFF. >> (5) Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector >> center terminal to a clean chassis ground. >> Meter readings should correspond to those shown in >> Specifications. If not OK, replace sender. If OK, repair >> open from fuel gauge sender connector to >> ground. > > Does anyone know what these meter reading should be?? I don't have a > manual and the specifications I have found on the internet all seem to > be different. That *would* help, wouldn't it? :) '94 FSM says: Full is 88 ohms, half-full is 44 ohms, and empty is 1 ohm. http://www.mukyj.com/diagrams/fsm/94YJ_8E-27.pdf -- ~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5 { }|||||||{ } "MukYJ" |
Re: Problems with instrument panel
Around 10/23/2007 8:53 AM, jason.mcdannold@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 4:59 pm, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote: > >> FUEL GAUGE SENDER >> (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. >> (2) Separate fuel gauge sender connector from fuel >> gauge sender near tank. >> (3) Ground the center wire of the body harness >> side of the connector. The gauge should read at low >> end of scale. If OK, check sending unit (step 4). If >> not, check circuit between connector and gauge. Repair >> as required. If circuit is OK, replace gauge. >> (4) Turn ignition switch to OFF. >> (5) Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector >> center terminal to a clean chassis ground. >> Meter readings should correspond to those shown in >> Specifications. If not OK, replace sender. If OK, repair >> open from fuel gauge sender connector to >> ground. > > Does anyone know what these meter reading should be?? I don't have a > manual and the specifications I have found on the internet all seem to > be different. That *would* help, wouldn't it? :) '94 FSM says: Full is 88 ohms, half-full is 44 ohms, and empty is 1 ohm. http://www.mukyj.com/diagrams/fsm/94YJ_8E-27.pdf -- ~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5 { }|||||||{ } "MukYJ" |
Re: Problems with instrument panel
Around 10/23/2007 8:53 AM, jason.mcdannold@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 4:59 pm, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote: > >> FUEL GAUGE SENDER >> (1) Turn ignition switch to ON. >> (2) Separate fuel gauge sender connector from fuel >> gauge sender near tank. >> (3) Ground the center wire of the body harness >> side of the connector. The gauge should read at low >> end of scale. If OK, check sending unit (step 4). If >> not, check circuit between connector and gauge. Repair >> as required. If circuit is OK, replace gauge. >> (4) Turn ignition switch to OFF. >> (5) Measure resistance from fuel gauge sender connector >> center terminal to a clean chassis ground. >> Meter readings should correspond to those shown in >> Specifications. If not OK, replace sender. If OK, repair >> open from fuel gauge sender connector to >> ground. > > Does anyone know what these meter reading should be?? I don't have a > manual and the specifications I have found on the internet all seem to > be different. That *would* help, wouldn't it? :) '94 FSM says: Full is 88 ohms, half-full is 44 ohms, and empty is 1 ohm. http://www.mukyj.com/diagrams/fsm/94YJ_8E-27.pdf -- ~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5 { }|||||||{ } "MukYJ" |
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