Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

Thanks Mike,

I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
resistance is different.

Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
I was overjoyed to hear that!

Thanks again for your help,

LTK





Mike Romain wrote:
> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> > just jammed it in.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks BIll,
> > >
> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> > >
> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> > >
> > > THanks,
> > >
> > > LTK

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

Thanks Mike,

I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
resistance is different.

Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
I was overjoyed to hear that!

Thanks again for your help,

LTK





Mike Romain wrote:
> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> > just jammed it in.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks BIll,
> > >
> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> > >
> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> > >
> > > THanks,
> > >
> > > LTK

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

If you are willing to pay to get it fixed go to a shop that specialized in
automotive and truck electric systems. All large cities should have at
least one.

If you have a firehouse nearby stop by and ask who does the electrical work
on their rolling stock.


<ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159112606.516703.95260@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks Mike,
>
> I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
> 1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
> the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
> the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
> resistance is different.
>
> Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
> I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
> away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
> to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
> a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
> I was overjoyed to hear that!
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> LTK
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
>> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>> >
>> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
>> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
>> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
>> > just jammed it in.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Thanks BIll,
>> > >
>> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
>> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>> > >
>> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>> > >
>> > > THanks,
>> > >
>> > > LTK
>

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

If you are willing to pay to get it fixed go to a shop that specialized in
automotive and truck electric systems. All large cities should have at
least one.

If you have a firehouse nearby stop by and ask who does the electrical work
on their rolling stock.


<ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159112606.516703.95260@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks Mike,
>
> I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
> 1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
> the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
> the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
> resistance is different.
>
> Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
> I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
> away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
> to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
> a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
> I was overjoyed to hear that!
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> LTK
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
>> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>> >
>> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
>> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
>> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
>> > just jammed it in.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Thanks BIll,
>> > >
>> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
>> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>> > >
>> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>> > >
>> > > THanks,
>> > >
>> > > LTK
>

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

If you are willing to pay to get it fixed go to a shop that specialized in
automotive and truck electric systems. All large cities should have at
least one.

If you have a firehouse nearby stop by and ask who does the electrical work
on their rolling stock.


<ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159112606.516703.95260@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks Mike,
>
> I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
> 1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
> the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
> the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
> resistance is different.
>
> Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
> I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
> away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
> to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
> a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
> I was overjoyed to hear that!
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> LTK
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
>> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>> >
>> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
>> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
>> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
>> > just jammed it in.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Thanks BIll,
>> > >
>> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
>> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>> > >
>> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>> > >
>> > > THanks,
>> > >
>> > > LTK
>

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

Well I did it! Went to the junkyard to do some research and found a
number of fuel senders hanging out of old XJ'a and a couple still in
the tank. removed three of them, 2 still had new looking pumps. I
bought a sender and a complete set up for $49 and went home to test
these that were both pulled from a 90 and an 88 XJ.

Success! The Fuel Gauge worked.

Now I needed to unisnstall mine and see what was up. Luckily the
practice at the yard helped a ton!

As I am pulling it out I noticed that the plastic housing of the sender
unit is disconnected from the fuel sender metal body. As I was
extracting the whole unit from the tank the filter boot fell in the
tank! Damn! Hands too big to get in fuel pump hole. Lower the tank to
get it out.

Few hours later...after testing it a few times.....reinstalled and
voila....gauge works!

Thanks for all of your advice,

LTK
Edit/Delete Message
billy ray wrote:
> If you are willing to pay to get it fixed go to a shop that specialized in
> automotive and truck electric systems. All large cities should have at
> least one.
>
> If you have a firehouse nearby stop by and ask who does the electrical work
> on their rolling stock.
>
>
> <ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159112606.516703.95260@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Thanks Mike,
> >
> > I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
> > 1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
> > the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
> > the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
> > resistance is different.
> >
> > Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
> > I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
> > away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
> > to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
> > a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
> > I was overjoyed to hear that!
> >
> > Thanks again for your help,
> >
> > LTK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> >> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> >> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> >> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> >> > just jammed it in.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks BIll,
> >> > >
> >> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> >> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >> > >
> >> > > THanks,
> >> > >
> >> > > LTK
> >

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

Well I did it! Went to the junkyard to do some research and found a
number of fuel senders hanging out of old XJ'a and a couple still in
the tank. removed three of them, 2 still had new looking pumps. I
bought a sender and a complete set up for $49 and went home to test
these that were both pulled from a 90 and an 88 XJ.

Success! The Fuel Gauge worked.

Now I needed to unisnstall mine and see what was up. Luckily the
practice at the yard helped a ton!

As I am pulling it out I noticed that the plastic housing of the sender
unit is disconnected from the fuel sender metal body. As I was
extracting the whole unit from the tank the filter boot fell in the
tank! Damn! Hands too big to get in fuel pump hole. Lower the tank to
get it out.

Few hours later...after testing it a few times.....reinstalled and
voila....gauge works!

Thanks for all of your advice,

LTK
Edit/Delete Message
billy ray wrote:
> If you are willing to pay to get it fixed go to a shop that specialized in
> automotive and truck electric systems. All large cities should have at
> least one.
>
> If you have a firehouse nearby stop by and ask who does the electrical work
> on their rolling stock.
>
>
> <ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159112606.516703.95260@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Thanks Mike,
> >
> > I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
> > 1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
> > the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
> > the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
> > resistance is different.
> >
> > Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
> > I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
> > away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
> > to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
> > a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
> > I was overjoyed to hear that!
> >
> > Thanks again for your help,
> >
> > LTK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> >> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> >> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> >> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> >> > just jammed it in.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks BIll,
> >> > >
> >> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> >> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >> > >
> >> > > THanks,
> >> > >
> >> > > LTK
> >

Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
 

Well I did it! Went to the junkyard to do some research and found a
number of fuel senders hanging out of old XJ'a and a couple still in
the tank. removed three of them, 2 still had new looking pumps. I
bought a sender and a complete set up for $49 and went home to test
these that were both pulled from a 90 and an 88 XJ.

Success! The Fuel Gauge worked.

Now I needed to unisnstall mine and see what was up. Luckily the
practice at the yard helped a ton!

As I am pulling it out I noticed that the plastic housing of the sender
unit is disconnected from the fuel sender metal body. As I was
extracting the whole unit from the tank the filter boot fell in the
tank! Damn! Hands too big to get in fuel pump hole. Lower the tank to
get it out.

Few hours later...after testing it a few times.....reinstalled and
voila....gauge works!

Thanks for all of your advice,

LTK
Edit/Delete Message
billy ray wrote:
> If you are willing to pay to get it fixed go to a shop that specialized in
> automotive and truck electric systems. All large cities should have at
> least one.
>
> If you have a firehouse nearby stop by and ask who does the electrical work
> on their rolling stock.
>
>
> <ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159112606.516703.95260@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Thanks Mike,
> >
> > I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
> > 1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
> > the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
> > the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
> > resistance is different.
> >
> > Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
> > I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
> > away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
> > to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
> > a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
> > I was overjoyed to hear that!
> >
> > Thanks again for your help,
> >
> > LTK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> >> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> >> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> >> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> >> > just jammed it in.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks BIll,
> >> > >
> >> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> >> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >> > >
> >> > > THanks,
> >> > >
> >> > > LTK
> >