Re: Premium Petroleum
 

I agree. If Jeeps were built like Toyotas, there would be no reason for
ANYONE to buy anything else. Ok, well there is Porsche...

jbjeep wrote:
> I dont think Toyota is a fair comparison. I have seen the abuse they can take and
> still keep running - like running until there is almost no oil, and then filling it
> up and starting it up and driving it again.

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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> I dont think Toyota is a fair comparison. I have seen the abuse they can
take

sad thing is i have the same expectations of my jeep! :-)

........now if i can just keep one long enough to put those expectations to
the test!


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Re: Premium Petroleum
 

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> I dont think Toyota is a fair comparison. I have seen the abuse they can
take

sad thing is i have the same expectations of my jeep! :-)

........now if i can just keep one long enough to put those expectations to
the test!


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Re: Premium Petroleum
 

Hi Jennifer,
Yup, lower octanes just pings a little at a time until the rods
fatigue enough to break, and throw out the sides.
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jbjeep wrote:
>
> never had a problem with the lower octanes. run the cheap stuff - you can spend more
> on mod's that way. =)
>
> also, if you off road, especially in dusty conditions, change the oil and check the
> air filter more frequently.

Re: Premium Petroleum
 

Hi Jennifer,
Yup, lower octanes just pings a little at a time until the rods
fatigue enough to break, and throw out the sides.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> never had a problem with the lower octanes. run the cheap stuff - you can spend more
> on mod's that way. =)
>
> also, if you off road, especially in dusty conditions, change the oil and check the
> air filter more frequently.

Re: Premium Petroleum
 

Hi Robert,
You're forgetting the premium fuel cleaning additives you don't get
with regular.
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Robert Bills wrote:
>
> Use the lowest octane that doesn't result in engine ping. Anything more is
> money out the tailpipe.
>
> I'm not a fan of synthetic oil in jeeps, unless its been run with synthetics
> since the first oil change. Switching to synthetics on a vehicle with a few
> miles may result in maddening leaks that you didn't have before. Also, its
> hard to justify the increased cost, especially since offroad use introduces
> dust and other contaminants that aren't issues on street cars, and which will
> require you to change oil more often than the extended frequencies touted by
> the synthetic manufacturers. My advice is to stick with dino oil, and change
> it every 3,000 miles.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com

Re: Premium Petroleum
 

Hi Robert,
You're forgetting the premium fuel cleaning additives you don't get
with regular.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Robert Bills wrote:
>
> Use the lowest octane that doesn't result in engine ping. Anything more is
> money out the tailpipe.
>
> I'm not a fan of synthetic oil in jeeps, unless its been run with synthetics
> since the first oil change. Switching to synthetics on a vehicle with a few
> miles may result in maddening leaks that you didn't have before. Also, its
> hard to justify the increased cost, especially since offroad use introduces
> dust and other contaminants that aren't issues on street cars, and which will
> require you to change oil more often than the extended frequencies touted by
> the synthetic manufacturers. My advice is to stick with dino oil, and change
> it every 3,000 miles.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com

Re: Premium Petroleum
 

I'm with Mike on this....the higher the octane the more timming you can run. I
don't run much advance....Just tune it for mid grade. I can feel and see the
difference at hwy speeds. Thats my take on it.....now if your running with new
OBDII and engine management systems higher octane aint worth a crap......run
what the factory says.

The oil I think is a toss up....I change the oil in my Jeep every 2k with dino.
BUT I use Mobile 1 Synthetic in my Z28. Thank god I only drive it a few
thousand miles a year cuz its $40 for a driveway oil change.

Brian
88 YJ

Re: Premium Petroleum
 

I'm with Mike on this....the higher the octane the more timming you can run. I
don't run much advance....Just tune it for mid grade. I can feel and see the
difference at hwy speeds. Thats my take on it.....now if your running with new
OBDII and engine management systems higher octane aint worth a crap......run
what the factory says.

The oil I think is a toss up....I change the oil in my Jeep every 2k with dino.
BUT I use Mobile 1 Synthetic in my Z28. Thank god I only drive it a few
thousand miles a year cuz its $40 for a driveway oil change.

Brian
88 YJ

Re: Premium Petroleum
 

> You're forgetting the premium fuel cleaning additives you don't get
>with regular

A 99 cent bottle of STP fuel treatment every 3,000 miles will take care of
that. A lot cheaper than the 30 cent/gal. differential between regular and
premium.

Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

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