powder coating on the cheap
 

I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.

Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
hold of...

This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
attractive coating.

A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
where I got the setup.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
> in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
> complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.
>
> Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
> people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
> uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
> coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
> intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
> hold of...
>
> This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
> with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
> inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
> called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
> attractive coating.
>
> A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
> with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
> where I got the setup.
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
> in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
> complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.
>
> Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
> people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
> uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
> coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
> intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
> hold of...
>
> This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
> with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
> inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
> called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
> attractive coating.
>
> A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
> with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
> where I got the setup.
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
> in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
> complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.
>
> Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
> people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
> uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
> coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
> intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
> hold of...
>
> This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
> with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
> inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
> called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
> attractive coating.
>
> A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
> with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
> where I got the setup.
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

I'm not afraid to mention vendors that I have no financial stake in.
Dunno where you bought your powdercoat system, but Eastwood is featuring
a bottom-of-the-line system for about $125 (use your own toaster-oven),
they go up to the multi-thousands from there:

<URL:http://www.eastwoodco.com/>

Their dead-tree catalogue came in the mail last week. It's a
stroke-book for tool junkies.

Mmmmm. English wheel.....


Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
> in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
> complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.
>
> Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
> people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
> uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
> coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
> intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
> hold of...
>
> This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
> with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
> inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
> called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
> attractive coating.
>
> A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
> with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
> where I got the setup.
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

I'm not afraid to mention vendors that I have no financial stake in.
Dunno where you bought your powdercoat system, but Eastwood is featuring
a bottom-of-the-line system for about $125 (use your own toaster-oven),
they go up to the multi-thousands from there:

<URL:http://www.eastwoodco.com/>

Their dead-tree catalogue came in the mail last week. It's a
stroke-book for tool junkies.

Mmmmm. English wheel.....


Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
> in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
> complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.
>
> Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
> people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
> uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
> coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
> intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
> hold of...
>
> This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
> with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
> inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
> called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
> attractive coating.
>
> A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
> with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
> where I got the setup.
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

I'm not afraid to mention vendors that I have no financial stake in.
Dunno where you bought your powdercoat system, but Eastwood is featuring
a bottom-of-the-line system for about $125 (use your own toaster-oven),
they go up to the multi-thousands from there:

<URL:http://www.eastwoodco.com/>

Their dead-tree catalogue came in the mail last week. It's a
stroke-book for tool junkies.

Mmmmm. English wheel.....


Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just got into this recently. as usual the CHEAP ASS(TM) stuff coming
> in from the chinese industrial revolution has provided me with a
> complete system so inexpensive I couldn't *not* try it.
>
> Armed with some black "micro texture" polyester (which is what most
> people think of when you say powdercoated it's semi-gloss with a fine
> uniform sandblasted looking texture) and some halogen work lamps, I
> coated most of the brackets in my engine compartment, valve cover, my
> intake manifold, air cleaner housing and everything else I could get a
> hold of...
>
> This stuff is remarkably easy to work with, I concocted a makeshift oven
> with bricks and the halogen lamps... after some fiddling to make the
> inside more air tight and considerably longer baking times than what is
> called for with infrared lamps; I had a hard plastic, very tough and
> attractive coating.
>
> A reasonably crafty person can easilly do production quality finishes
> with this setup in a garage. I wont mention (lest I be accused of spam)
> where I got the setup.
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I'm not afraid to mention vendors that I have no financial stake in.
> Dunno where you bought your powdercoat system, but Eastwood is featuring
> a bottom-of-the-line system for about $125 (use your own toaster-oven),
> they go up to the multi-thousands from there:

ah you pried it out of me: Columbia coatings
http://www.columbiacoatings.com/
they have the harbor freight system starting at 65 bucks which is
cheaper than HF usually sells it for, and they include a few bits you'll
want.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I'm not afraid to mention vendors that I have no financial stake in.
> Dunno where you bought your powdercoat system, but Eastwood is featuring
> a bottom-of-the-line system for about $125 (use your own toaster-oven),
> they go up to the multi-thousands from there:

ah you pried it out of me: Columbia coatings
http://www.columbiacoatings.com/
they have the harbor freight system starting at 65 bucks which is
cheaper than HF usually sells it for, and they include a few bits you'll
want.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I'm not afraid to mention vendors that I have no financial stake in.
> Dunno where you bought your powdercoat system, but Eastwood is featuring
> a bottom-of-the-line system for about $125 (use your own toaster-oven),
> they go up to the multi-thousands from there:

ah you pried it out of me: Columbia coatings
http://www.columbiacoatings.com/
they have the harbor freight system starting at 65 bucks which is
cheaper than HF usually sells it for, and they include a few bits you'll
want.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

twaldron wrote:
> But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.

Oh I got it up to the recommended temps, just took a lot longer with
only halogen lamps instead of infrared.

The baking process is only for flowing the powder into a continuous
plastic layer... baking it too little would result in crumbling from
lack of melting, way too much heat or time would get you brittleness.
But as long as it flows together it's pretty much fool proof.

For what it's worth even with my makeshift heating setup, the coating is
too hard to even effect with a fingernail or a coin (wont even dent) it
takes a sharp knife to even gouge into it... compair this to keying a
paintjob... no way a key even leaves a mark on this stuff it wont even
knock the texture bumps down leaving a glossy spot :)


--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

twaldron wrote:
> But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.

Oh I got it up to the recommended temps, just took a lot longer with
only halogen lamps instead of infrared.

The baking process is only for flowing the powder into a continuous
plastic layer... baking it too little would result in crumbling from
lack of melting, way too much heat or time would get you brittleness.
But as long as it flows together it's pretty much fool proof.

For what it's worth even with my makeshift heating setup, the coating is
too hard to even effect with a fingernail or a coin (wont even dent) it
takes a sharp knife to even gouge into it... compair this to keying a
paintjob... no way a key even leaves a mark on this stuff it wont even
knock the texture bumps down leaving a glossy spot :)


--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

twaldron wrote:
> But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.

Oh I got it up to the recommended temps, just took a lot longer with
only halogen lamps instead of infrared.

The baking process is only for flowing the powder into a continuous
plastic layer... baking it too little would result in crumbling from
lack of melting, way too much heat or time would get you brittleness.
But as long as it flows together it's pretty much fool proof.

For what it's worth even with my makeshift heating setup, the coating is
too hard to even effect with a fingernail or a coin (wont even dent) it
takes a sharp knife to even gouge into it... compair this to keying a
paintjob... no way a key even leaves a mark on this stuff it wont even
knock the texture bumps down leaving a glossy spot :)


--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Sounds fun. How large a piece can you do with these setups?
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Simon Juncal wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.
>
>
> Oh I got it up to the recommended temps, just took a lot longer with
> only halogen lamps instead of infrared.
>
> The baking process is only for flowing the powder into a continuous
> plastic layer... baking it too little would result in crumbling from
> lack of melting, way too much heat or time would get you brittleness.
> But as long as it flows together it's pretty much fool proof.
>
> For what it's worth even with my makeshift heating setup, the coating is
> too hard to even effect with a fingernail or a coin (wont even dent) it
> takes a sharp knife to even gouge into it... compair this to keying a
> paintjob... no way a key even leaves a mark on this stuff it wont even
> knock the texture bumps down leaving a glossy spot :)
>
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Sounds fun. How large a piece can you do with these setups?
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Simon Juncal wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.
>
>
> Oh I got it up to the recommended temps, just took a lot longer with
> only halogen lamps instead of infrared.
>
> The baking process is only for flowing the powder into a continuous
> plastic layer... baking it too little would result in crumbling from
> lack of melting, way too much heat or time would get you brittleness.
> But as long as it flows together it's pretty much fool proof.
>
> For what it's worth even with my makeshift heating setup, the coating is
> too hard to even effect with a fingernail or a coin (wont even dent) it
> takes a sharp knife to even gouge into it... compair this to keying a
> paintjob... no way a key even leaves a mark on this stuff it wont even
> knock the texture bumps down leaving a glossy spot :)
>
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Sounds fun. How large a piece can you do with these setups?
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Simon Juncal wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> But how will it hold up? Real powdercoating is done around 500-450degF.
>
>
> Oh I got it up to the recommended temps, just took a lot longer with
> only halogen lamps instead of infrared.
>
> The baking process is only for flowing the powder into a continuous
> plastic layer... baking it too little would result in crumbling from
> lack of melting, way too much heat or time would get you brittleness.
> But as long as it flows together it's pretty much fool proof.
>
> For what it's worth even with my makeshift heating setup, the coating is
> too hard to even effect with a fingernail or a coin (wont even dent) it
> takes a sharp knife to even gouge into it... compair this to keying a
> paintjob... no way a key even leaves a mark on this stuff it wont even
> knock the texture bumps down leaving a glossy spot :)
>
>

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:Z92dnXEVMeg9DHfeRVn-vg@rcn.net...
> ah you pried it out of me: Columbia coatings
> http://www.columbiacoatings.com/
> they have the harbor freight system starting at 65 bucks which is
> cheaper than HF usually sells it for, and they include a few bits you'll
> want.

Obnoxious in-your-face religion site... I just want to take a gun to that
----in' fish that keeps swimming across the top of the page... Nawh, I'll
look elsewhere...

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:Z92dnXEVMeg9DHfeRVn-vg@rcn.net...
> ah you pried it out of me: Columbia coatings
> http://www.columbiacoatings.com/
> they have the harbor freight system starting at 65 bucks which is
> cheaper than HF usually sells it for, and they include a few bits you'll
> want.

Obnoxious in-your-face religion site... I just want to take a gun to that
----in' fish that keeps swimming across the top of the page... Nawh, I'll
look elsewhere...

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:Z92dnXEVMeg9DHfeRVn-vg@rcn.net...
> ah you pried it out of me: Columbia coatings
> http://www.columbiacoatings.com/
> they have the harbor freight system starting at 65 bucks which is
> cheaper than HF usually sells it for, and they include a few bits you'll
> want.

Obnoxious in-your-face religion site... I just want to take a gun to that
----in' fish that keeps swimming across the top of the page... Nawh, I'll
look elsewhere...

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

twaldron wrote:
> Sounds fun. How large a piece can you do with these setups?

well I did my old 4.2 valve cover and had to move the lights to get the
ends to melt. I wouldn't go much bigger.

With infrared heaters the sky's the limit, someone had an entire jeep
parted out on ebay last week, powder coated tub, fenders, windshield
frame, roll bar everything down to the frame.

I was waiting on some crane "anti-pump up" lifters to continue on with
the 4.0 head swap, so I got this system, now I'm thinking of all sorts
of stuff that would be better coated with plastic :) brackets, caps,
hood prop... brush bar, bumper... my steel wagon wheels

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

twaldron wrote:
> Sounds fun. How large a piece can you do with these setups?

well I did my old 4.2 valve cover and had to move the lights to get the
ends to melt. I wouldn't go much bigger.

With infrared heaters the sky's the limit, someone had an entire jeep
parted out on ebay last week, powder coated tub, fenders, windshield
frame, roll bar everything down to the frame.

I was waiting on some crane "anti-pump up" lifters to continue on with
the 4.0 head swap, so I got this system, now I'm thinking of all sorts
of stuff that would be better coated with plastic :) brackets, caps,
hood prop... brush bar, bumper... my steel wagon wheels

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

twaldron wrote:
> Sounds fun. How large a piece can you do with these setups?

well I did my old 4.2 valve cover and had to move the lights to get the
ends to melt. I wouldn't go much bigger.

With infrared heaters the sky's the limit, someone had an entire jeep
parted out on ebay last week, powder coated tub, fenders, windshield
frame, roll bar everything down to the frame.

I was waiting on some crane "anti-pump up" lifters to continue on with
the 4.0 head swap, so I got this system, now I'm thinking of all sorts
of stuff that would be better coated with plastic :) brackets, caps,
hood prop... brush bar, bumper... my steel wagon wheels

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Grumman-581 wrote:
> Obnoxious in-your-face religion site... I just want to take a gun to that
> ----in' fish that keeps swimming across the top of the page... Nawh, I'll
> look elsewhere...


Wow hope you don't have those same impulses when someone is driving in
front of you with a fish symbol on their car. I hadn't noticed the fish
on the site.

Frankly your violently anti-religious anti-freedom of expression view
point is far more troubling than a gif animation of a religious symbol.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Grumman-581 wrote:
> Obnoxious in-your-face religion site... I just want to take a gun to that
> ----in' fish that keeps swimming across the top of the page... Nawh, I'll
> look elsewhere...


Wow hope you don't have those same impulses when someone is driving in
front of you with a fish symbol on their car. I hadn't noticed the fish
on the site.

Frankly your violently anti-religious anti-freedom of expression view
point is far more troubling than a gif animation of a religious symbol.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

Grumman-581 wrote:
> Obnoxious in-your-face religion site... I just want to take a gun to that
> ----in' fish that keeps swimming across the top of the page... Nawh, I'll
> look elsewhere...


Wow hope you don't have those same impulses when someone is driving in
front of you with a fish symbol on their car. I hadn't noticed the fish
on the site.

Frankly your violently anti-religious anti-freedom of expression view
point is far more troubling than a gif animation of a religious symbol.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N6KdnaCYc5RQVXfenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Wow hope you don't have those same impulses when someone is driving in
> front of you with a fish symbol on their car.

Only when they're driving 30 mph slower than the rest of the traffic and
they have a ----in' cell phone shoved in their ear...

> Frankly your violently anti-religious anti-freedom of expression view
> point is far more troubling than a gif animation of a religious symbol.

Hell, I'm the most well adjusted sociopath that I know...

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N6KdnaCYc5RQVXfenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Wow hope you don't have those same impulses when someone is driving in
> front of you with a fish symbol on their car.

Only when they're driving 30 mph slower than the rest of the traffic and
they have a ----in' cell phone shoved in their ear...

> Frankly your violently anti-religious anti-freedom of expression view
> point is far more troubling than a gif animation of a religious symbol.

Hell, I'm the most well adjusted sociopath that I know...

Re: powder coating on the cheap
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N6KdnaCYc5RQVXfenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Wow hope you don't have those same impulses when someone is driving in
> front of you with a fish symbol on their car.

Only when they're driving 30 mph slower than the rest of the traffic and
they have a ----in' cell phone shoved in their ear...

> Frankly your violently anti-religious anti-freedom of expression view
> point is far more troubling than a gif animation of a religious symbol.

Hell, I'm the most well adjusted sociopath that I know...