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bllsht 07-07-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Related Question, but different
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:05:10 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> If it is not permissible to use E85 fuels, what is going to happen
>> to all of the legacy engines on the road today if E85 becomes
>> mandated?

>
>It's unlikely that it will become mandated and you CAN put E85 in your
>car. It won't run as well*, mileage may suffer along with performance
>but it will run. There are some VERY old cars that could have problems
>with gaskets in the fuel system due to the alcohol but that's very
>unlikely, we've been running "oxygenated" fuels for years now and any
>gasket bothered by alcohol has long ago been replaced.


You CAN put anything you want in your car, but that doesn't mean it's
a good idea. There's a big difference between "oxygenated" fuels and
85% ethanol.

If the fuel system in your vehicle was not built to withstand the
effects of E85, don't use it. There's a reason manufacturers
designate E85 capable vehicles as FFV vehicles.


bllsht 07-07-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Related Question, but different
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:05:10 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> If it is not permissible to use E85 fuels, what is going to happen
>> to all of the legacy engines on the road today if E85 becomes
>> mandated?

>
>It's unlikely that it will become mandated and you CAN put E85 in your
>car. It won't run as well*, mileage may suffer along with performance
>but it will run. There are some VERY old cars that could have problems
>with gaskets in the fuel system due to the alcohol but that's very
>unlikely, we've been running "oxygenated" fuels for years now and any
>gasket bothered by alcohol has long ago been replaced.


You CAN put anything you want in your car, but that doesn't mean it's
a good idea. There's a big difference between "oxygenated" fuels and
85% ethanol.

If the fuel system in your vehicle was not built to withstand the
effects of E85, don't use it. There's a reason manufacturers
designate E85 capable vehicles as FFV vehicles.


bllsht 07-07-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Related Question, but different
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:05:10 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> If it is not permissible to use E85 fuels, what is going to happen
>> to all of the legacy engines on the road today if E85 becomes
>> mandated?

>
>It's unlikely that it will become mandated and you CAN put E85 in your
>car. It won't run as well*, mileage may suffer along with performance
>but it will run. There are some VERY old cars that could have problems
>with gaskets in the fuel system due to the alcohol but that's very
>unlikely, we've been running "oxygenated" fuels for years now and any
>gasket bothered by alcohol has long ago been replaced.


You CAN put anything you want in your car, but that doesn't mean it's
a good idea. There's a big difference between "oxygenated" fuels and
85% ethanol.

If the fuel system in your vehicle was not built to withstand the
effects of E85, don't use it. There's a reason manufacturers
designate E85 capable vehicles as FFV vehicles.


philthy 07-07-2007 11:28 PM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
fuel!!

tyq wrote:

> On a jeep cherokee xj (1990)



philthy 07-07-2007 11:28 PM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
fuel!!

tyq wrote:

> On a jeep cherokee xj (1990)



philthy 07-07-2007 11:28 PM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
fuel!!

tyq wrote:

> On a jeep cherokee xj (1990)



philthy 07-07-2007 11:28 PM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
fuel!!

tyq wrote:

> On a jeep cherokee xj (1990)



XS11E 07-08-2007 12:34 AM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:

> no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
> fuel!!


That's incorrect.

As I posted before, yes, you can run E-85. It'll run poorly but if the
day comes as Jeff Strickland postulated,

> If it is not permissible to use E85 fuels, what is going to happen
> to all of the legacy engines on the road today if E85 becomes
> mandated?


then E-85 will keep your jeep running. Don't use it unless you have
to, your mileage will suffer and the car won't run as well but it WILL
run.

The official FAQs:

http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/misfueling.php

I recall all the flap when leaded fuel went away and "horrible things
would happen to older cars." Surprise, they ran fine on no lead fuel.

I really doubt it's something to worry about, I doubt that E-85 will be
around long, I doubt even more it will be federally mandated and IF it
is, it probably won't be soon.


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XS11E 07-08-2007 12:34 AM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:

> no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
> fuel!!


That's incorrect.

As I posted before, yes, you can run E-85. It'll run poorly but if the
day comes as Jeff Strickland postulated,

> If it is not permissible to use E85 fuels, what is going to happen
> to all of the legacy engines on the road today if E85 becomes
> mandated?


then E-85 will keep your jeep running. Don't use it unless you have
to, your mileage will suffer and the car won't run as well but it WILL
run.

The official FAQs:

http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/misfueling.php

I recall all the flap when leaded fuel went away and "horrible things
would happen to older cars." Surprise, they ran fine on no lead fuel.

I really doubt it's something to worry about, I doubt that E-85 will be
around long, I doubt even more it will be federally mandated and IF it
is, it probably won't be soon.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 07-08-2007 12:34 AM

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT E-85 FLEX-FUEL
 
philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:

> no you can't the fuel injectors and fuel rail are not made for the
> fuel!!


That's incorrect.

As I posted before, yes, you can run E-85. It'll run poorly but if the
day comes as Jeff Strickland postulated,

> If it is not permissible to use E85 fuels, what is going to happen
> to all of the legacy engines on the road today if E85 becomes
> mandated?


then E-85 will keep your jeep running. Don't use it unless you have
to, your mileage will suffer and the car won't run as well but it WILL
run.

The official FAQs:

http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/misfueling.php

I recall all the flap when leaded fuel went away and "horrible things
would happen to older cars." Surprise, they ran fine on no lead fuel.

I really doubt it's something to worry about, I doubt that E-85 will be
around long, I doubt even more it will be federally mandated and IF it
is, it probably won't be soon.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html


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