Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.

Earle

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:77OdnbZXh52uFQfeRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> My head hurts.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:439A533A.DB898936@cox.net...
> > Cool hydraulics at: http://----------.com/lowrider.htm
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > noydb wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone ever seen this done ?
> >>
> >> I'd like to drastically lower one and possibly widen the track a few
> >> inches as well.
> >> It would handle like a slot car.
> >> Ideally, I'd like to make the suspension adjustable, so if the need
> >> ever arose, the thing could be raised to its normal level.
> >>
> >> I think this would make a cool show car.
> >>
> >> I'd appreciate any comments regarding the feasibility of this project.
> >>
> >> Thanks, --N
>
>

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.

Earle

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:77OdnbZXh52uFQfeRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> My head hurts.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:439A533A.DB898936@cox.net...
> > Cool hydraulics at: http://----------.com/lowrider.htm
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > noydb wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone ever seen this done ?
> >>
> >> I'd like to drastically lower one and possibly widen the track a few
> >> inches as well.
> >> It would handle like a slot car.
> >> Ideally, I'd like to make the suspension adjustable, so if the need
> >> ever arose, the thing could be raised to its normal level.
> >>
> >> I think this would make a cool show car.
> >>
> >> I'd appreciate any comments regarding the feasibility of this project.
> >>
> >> Thanks, --N
>
>

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:02:02 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Cool hydraulics at: http://----------.com/lowrider.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------


Thanks for the link.
That's close to what I was looking for.
(and I've been searching around in vain for a long time...)

But my God, are they ugly.
Oh well, on to the next idea.

--N

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:02:02 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Cool hydraulics at: http://----------.com/lowrider.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------


Thanks for the link.
That's close to what I was looking for.
(and I've been searching around in vain for a long time...)

But my God, are they ugly.
Oh well, on to the next idea.

--N

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:02:02 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Cool hydraulics at: http://----------.com/lowrider.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------


Thanks for the link.
That's close to what I was looking for.
(and I've been searching around in vain for a long time...)

But my God, are they ugly.
Oh well, on to the next idea.

--N

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:30:41 +0100, "Earle Horton"
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:

>I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
>you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
>simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
>once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
>that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
>is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
>change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
>response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.
>
>Earle
>

I'm really interested in improving high speed stability more than
anything else. But after looking at the various pics of lowered
Wranglers, and considering the ground clearance issues and potential
steering geometry problems, it appears this idea just isn't worth the
potential grief.

Thanks for the input.
-N

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:30:41 +0100, "Earle Horton"
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:

>I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
>you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
>simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
>once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
>that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
>is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
>change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
>response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.
>
>Earle
>

I'm really interested in improving high speed stability more than
anything else. But after looking at the various pics of lowered
Wranglers, and considering the ground clearance issues and potential
steering geometry problems, it appears this idea just isn't worth the
potential grief.

Thanks for the input.
-N

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:30:41 +0100, "Earle Horton"
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:

>I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
>you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
>simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
>once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
>that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
>is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
>change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
>response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.
>
>Earle
>

I'm really interested in improving high speed stability more than
anything else. But after looking at the various pics of lowered
Wranglers, and considering the ground clearance issues and potential
steering geometry problems, it appears this idea just isn't worth the
potential grief.

Thanks for the input.
-N

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

noydb wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:30:41 +0100, "Earle Horton"
> <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
> >you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
> >simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
> >once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
> >that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
> >is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
> >change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
> >response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.
> >
> >Earle
> >
>
> I'm really interested in improving high speed stability more than
> anything else. But after looking at the various pics of lowered
> Wranglers, and considering the ground clearance issues and potential
> steering geometry problems, it appears this idea just isn't worth the
> potential grief.
>
> Thanks for the input.
> -N

Not much you can do for high speed. The short wheelbase and
aerodynamics of a brick just plain gets 'twitchy' over 75 mph or so.
Run at 80+ mph and you will leave finger dents in the steering wheel....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Is it possible to lower a Wragler ?
 

noydb wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:30:41 +0100, "Earle Horton"
> <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >I am going to risk injecting a serious note into this thread. Most of what
> >you want to accomplish can be done with a change of wheels and tires, or
> >simply a change of tires. I saw a picture of a "lowered looking" Wrangler
> >once, that merely had low profile tires on stock rims. Be aware though,
> >that any change in ride height involves a change in steering geometry. This
> >is true, even if all you change are the tires and wheels. Do not expect to
> >change ride height, without some possibly serious changes in vehicle
> >response, to your attempts to point it in various directions.
> >
> >Earle
> >
>
> I'm really interested in improving high speed stability more than
> anything else. But after looking at the various pics of lowered
> Wranglers, and considering the ground clearance issues and potential
> steering geometry problems, it appears this idea just isn't worth the
> potential grief.
>
> Thanks for the input.
> -N

Not much you can do for high speed. The short wheelbase and
aerodynamics of a brick just plain gets 'twitchy' over 75 mph or so.
Run at 80+ mph and you will leave finger dents in the steering wheel....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)