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TW 01-25-2004 05:07 PM

Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..

Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
lacks back/head support.

Any help or push in the right direction would be great.

Thanks,
TW


Jerry Newton 01-25-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in the
US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to the
fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.

Jerry



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv1e1c$2hu$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
> back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended.

Its
> funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
> Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
> son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
> because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no

head
> rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
> lacks back/head support.
>
> Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> TW
>




Jerry Newton 01-25-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in the
US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to the
fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.

Jerry



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv1e1c$2hu$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
> back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended.

Its
> funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
> Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
> son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
> because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no

head
> rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
> lacks back/head support.
>
> Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> TW
>




Jerry Newton 01-25-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in the
US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to the
fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.

Jerry



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv1e1c$2hu$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
> back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended.

Its
> funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
> Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
> son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
> because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no

head
> rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
> lacks back/head support.
>
> Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> TW
>




Dean 01-25-2004 10:02 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat with
bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg room by
moving the rear seats back a bit.

Dean
http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote:

>Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
>back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
>funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
>Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
>son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
>because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
>rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
>lacks back/head support.
>
>Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
>Thanks,
>TW



Dean 01-25-2004 10:02 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat with
bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg room by
moving the rear seats back a bit.

Dean
http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote:

>Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
>back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
>funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
>Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
>son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
>because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
>rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
>lacks back/head support.
>
>Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
>Thanks,
>TW



Dean 01-25-2004 10:02 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat with
bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg room by
moving the rear seats back a bit.

Dean
http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote:

>Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
>back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
>funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
>Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
>son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
>because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
>rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
>lacks back/head support.
>
>Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
>Thanks,
>TW



TW 01-26-2004 04:48 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:b70910huv75sas00ns3jqnv3ba5fg1e4fr@4ax.com...
> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat

with
> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg

room by
> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>
> Dean
> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>


Well, that was the other idea I had in mind. We have not folded the seat
in our TJ even once. If there is a need to carry more stuff, we can use
our other car (Honda CR-V). I would be interesting to see what the replies
suggest. May be some aftermarket car seat maker makes such a replacement
seat. In our case, the seat does not have to be moved back at all.

Cheers,
TW


TW 01-26-2004 04:48 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:b70910huv75sas00ns3jqnv3ba5fg1e4fr@4ax.com...
> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat

with
> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg

room by
> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>
> Dean
> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>


Well, that was the other idea I had in mind. We have not folded the seat
in our TJ even once. If there is a need to carry more stuff, we can use
our other car (Honda CR-V). I would be interesting to see what the replies
suggest. May be some aftermarket car seat maker makes such a replacement
seat. In our case, the seat does not have to be moved back at all.

Cheers,
TW


TW 01-26-2004 04:48 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:b70910huv75sas00ns3jqnv3ba5fg1e4fr@4ax.com...
> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat

with
> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg

room by
> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>
> Dean
> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>


Well, that was the other idea I had in mind. We have not folded the seat
in our TJ even once. If there is a need to carry more stuff, we can use
our other car (Honda CR-V). I would be interesting to see what the replies
suggest. May be some aftermarket car seat maker makes such a replacement
seat. In our case, the seat does not have to be moved back at all.

Cheers,
TW


TW 01-26-2004 05:01 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in

the
> US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to the
> fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
>
> Jerry
>


Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
(heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks
TW


TW 01-26-2004 05:01 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in

the
> US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to the
> fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
>
> Jerry
>


Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
(heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks
TW


TW 01-26-2004 05:01 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in

the
> US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to the
> fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
>
> Jerry
>


Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
(heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks
TW


Dean 01-26-2004 10:31 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.

Regards,
Dean

>Well, that was the other idea I had in mind. We have not folded the seat
>in our TJ even once. If there is a need to carry more stuff, we can use
>our other car (Honda CR-V). I would be interesting to see what the replies
>suggest. May be some aftermarket car seat maker makes such a replacement
>seat. In our case, the seat does not have to be moved back at all.
>
>Cheers,
>TW


>"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
>news:b70910huv75sas00ns3jqnv3ba5fg1e4fr@4ax.com.. .
>> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat

>with
>> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg

>room by
>> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>>
>> Dean
>> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>>

>


Dean 01-26-2004 10:31 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.

Regards,
Dean

>Well, that was the other idea I had in mind. We have not folded the seat
>in our TJ even once. If there is a need to carry more stuff, we can use
>our other car (Honda CR-V). I would be interesting to see what the replies
>suggest. May be some aftermarket car seat maker makes such a replacement
>seat. In our case, the seat does not have to be moved back at all.
>
>Cheers,
>TW


>"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
>news:b70910huv75sas00ns3jqnv3ba5fg1e4fr@4ax.com.. .
>> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat

>with
>> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg

>room by
>> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>>
>> Dean
>> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>>

>


Dean 01-26-2004 10:31 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.

Regards,
Dean

>Well, that was the other idea I had in mind. We have not folded the seat
>in our TJ even once. If there is a need to carry more stuff, we can use
>our other car (Honda CR-V). I would be interesting to see what the replies
>suggest. May be some aftermarket car seat maker makes such a replacement
>seat. In our case, the seat does not have to be moved back at all.
>
>Cheers,
>TW


>"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
>news:b70910huv75sas00ns3jqnv3ba5fg1e4fr@4ax.com.. .
>> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat

>with
>> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg

>room by
>> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>>
>> Dean
>> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>>

>


twaldron 01-26-2004 10:49 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
You might contact http://aev-conversions.com/index.html they may have
some suggestions since that is what they do to their conversions.

Dean wrote:

> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat with
> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg room by
> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>
> Dean
> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
>>back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
>>funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>>
>>Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
>>son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
>>because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
>>rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
>>lacks back/head support.
>>
>>Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>TW

>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 01-26-2004 10:49 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
You might contact http://aev-conversions.com/index.html they may have
some suggestions since that is what they do to their conversions.

Dean wrote:

> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat with
> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg room by
> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>
> Dean
> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
>>back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
>>funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>>
>>Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
>>son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
>>because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
>>rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
>>lacks back/head support.
>>
>>Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>TW

>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 01-26-2004 10:49 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
You might contact http://aev-conversions.com/index.html they may have
some suggestions since that is what they do to their conversions.

Dean wrote:

> Along the same lines, has anyone replaced the back fold and tumble seat with
> bucket seats? I'd like to provide head restraints and a little more leg room by
> moving the rear seats back a bit.
>
> Dean
> http://www.monograms-inc.com/jeep
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
>>back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended. Its
>>funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>>
>>Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat? Our
>>son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the front
>>because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because of no head
>>rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but that also
>>lacks back/head support.
>>
>>Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>TW

>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 01-26-2004 11:13 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I've got both and I'm not sure there IS any added legroom in an XJ!! :)

Dean wrote:

> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 01-26-2004 11:13 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I've got both and I'm not sure there IS any added legroom in an XJ!! :)

Dean wrote:

> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 01-26-2004 11:13 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
I've got both and I'm not sure there IS any added legroom in an XJ!! :)

Dean wrote:

> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


CRWLR 01-26-2004 04:14 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that the
front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume that a
small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for yours.
It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
people that needs to be completed.





"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv2nmc$con$2@news.wave.co.nz...
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in

> the
> > US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to

the
> > fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
> >
> > Jerry
> >

>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
> he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
> (heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
> question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
> seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
> the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>



CRWLR 01-26-2004 04:14 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that the
front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume that a
small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for yours.
It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
people that needs to be completed.





"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv2nmc$con$2@news.wave.co.nz...
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in

> the
> > US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to

the
> > fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
> >
> > Jerry
> >

>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
> he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
> (heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
> question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
> seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
> the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>



CRWLR 01-26-2004 04:14 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that the
front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume that a
small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for yours.
It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
people that needs to be completed.





"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv2nmc$con$2@news.wave.co.nz...
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in

> the
> > US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to

the
> > fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
> >
> > Jerry
> >

>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
> he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
> (heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
> question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
> seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
> the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>



TW 01-27-2004 05:01 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:101b0s8tl651idf@corp.supernews.com...
> A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
> fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that

the
> front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
> between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.


Thanks for that. I actually did measure it today in the evening and
realised that I was not possible to fit front seats in the back. Perhaps I
can borrow some smaller car's seats in the back? I know that would look
ugly in terms of not all four seats matching in styling. I am just
bouncing off ideas.

>
> The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
> bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
> looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
> available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume

that a
> small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
> switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for

yours.
> It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
> people that needs to be completed.
>


I did check with the dealer and unfortunately it is not allowed in NZ to
have that switch installed. It is primarily available in US. Jeep has
developed a specification for each model for NZ market and all Wrangler
flavours have those similar features as standard (like all TJ
Renegades/Saharas have rear Dana 44). I'll try a different dealer and see
if I get a different answer.

Thanks
TW


TW 01-27-2004 05:01 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:101b0s8tl651idf@corp.supernews.com...
> A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
> fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that

the
> front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
> between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.


Thanks for that. I actually did measure it today in the evening and
realised that I was not possible to fit front seats in the back. Perhaps I
can borrow some smaller car's seats in the back? I know that would look
ugly in terms of not all four seats matching in styling. I am just
bouncing off ideas.

>
> The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
> bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
> looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
> available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume

that a
> small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
> switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for

yours.
> It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
> people that needs to be completed.
>


I did check with the dealer and unfortunately it is not allowed in NZ to
have that switch installed. It is primarily available in US. Jeep has
developed a specification for each model for NZ market and all Wrangler
flavours have those similar features as standard (like all TJ
Renegades/Saharas have rear Dana 44). I'll try a different dealer and see
if I get a different answer.

Thanks
TW


TW 01-27-2004 05:01 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:101b0s8tl651idf@corp.supernews.com...
> A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
> fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that

the
> front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
> between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.


Thanks for that. I actually did measure it today in the evening and
realised that I was not possible to fit front seats in the back. Perhaps I
can borrow some smaller car's seats in the back? I know that would look
ugly in terms of not all four seats matching in styling. I am just
bouncing off ideas.

>
> The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
> bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
> looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
> available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume

that a
> small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
> switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for

yours.
> It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
> people that needs to be completed.
>


I did check with the dealer and unfortunately it is not allowed in NZ to
have that switch installed. It is primarily available in US. Jeep has
developed a specification for each model for NZ market and all Wrangler
flavours have those similar features as standard (like all TJ
Renegades/Saharas have rear Dana 44). I'll try a different dealer and see
if I get a different answer.

Thanks
TW


TW 01-27-2004 05:06 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:boba10hbgsgfnjnqj6qquc25lg3n5b6khf@4ax.com...
> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my

son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no

sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling

the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.
>
> Regards,
> Dean
>


Our son will be four next week and he is already tall enough to pass as a
lot older kid. Both my wife and I are tall, so its not a surprise about
our son. We had to move from a back facing seat at about four months
because he had no space for his legs (normally you move a child to front
facing at six months or older). We tried a Cherokee last year when we were
looking for something to buy, but didn't really notice that much more leg
space, just additional back doors for easy entry/exit. Oh well.. I'll
keep brainstorming.

Thanks,
TW


TW 01-27-2004 05:06 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:boba10hbgsgfnjnqj6qquc25lg3n5b6khf@4ax.com...
> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my

son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no

sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling

the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.
>
> Regards,
> Dean
>


Our son will be four next week and he is already tall enough to pass as a
lot older kid. Both my wife and I are tall, so its not a surprise about
our son. We had to move from a back facing seat at about four months
because he had no space for his legs (normally you move a child to front
facing at six months or older). We tried a Cherokee last year when we were
looking for something to buy, but didn't really notice that much more leg
space, just additional back doors for easy entry/exit. Oh well.. I'll
keep brainstorming.

Thanks,
TW


TW 01-27-2004 05:06 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:boba10hbgsgfnjnqj6qquc25lg3n5b6khf@4ax.com...
> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my

son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no

sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling

the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.
>
> Regards,
> Dean
>


Our son will be four next week and he is already tall enough to pass as a
lot older kid. Both my wife and I are tall, so its not a surprise about
our son. We had to move from a back facing seat at about four months
because he had no space for his legs (normally you move a child to front
facing at six months or older). We tried a Cherokee last year when we were
looking for something to buy, but didn't really notice that much more leg
space, just additional back doors for easy entry/exit. Oh well.. I'll
keep brainstorming.

Thanks,
TW


TW 01-27-2004 05:07 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9GaRb.10362$NM6.6327@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> You might contact http://aev-conversions.com/index.html they may have
> some suggestions since that is what they do to their conversions.
>


Thanks, I'll visit their site in the morning.

TW




TW 01-27-2004 05:07 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9GaRb.10362$NM6.6327@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> You might contact http://aev-conversions.com/index.html they may have
> some suggestions since that is what they do to their conversions.
>


Thanks, I'll visit their site in the morning.

TW




TW 01-27-2004 05:07 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9GaRb.10362$NM6.6327@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om...
> You might contact http://aev-conversions.com/index.html they may have
> some suggestions since that is what they do to their conversions.
>


Thanks, I'll visit their site in the morning.

TW




Paul Keating 01-28-2004 08:38 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 

Clamp a bar horizontally, across the vertical posts of the roll bar and
mount a pad on it at head level. As the boy grows, you can move it higher
up the roll bar to stay at head level.

Pual

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, TW wrote:

> Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
> back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended.
> Its funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
> Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat?
> Our son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the
> front because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because
> of no head rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but
> that also lacks back/head support.
>
> Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> TW


Paul Keating 01-28-2004 08:38 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 

Clamp a bar horizontally, across the vertical posts of the roll bar and
mount a pad on it at head level. As the boy grows, you can move it higher
up the roll bar to stay at head level.

Pual

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, TW wrote:

> Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
> back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended.
> Its funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
> Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat?
> Our son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the
> front because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because
> of no head rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but
> that also lacks back/head support.
>
> Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> TW


Paul Keating 01-28-2004 08:38 PM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 

Clamp a bar horizontally, across the vertical posts of the roll bar and
mount a pad on it at head level. As the boy grows, you can move it higher
up the roll bar to stay at head level.

Pual

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:07:43 +1300, TW wrote:

> Hi, we just did a long trip in our TJ with our four year old son in the
> back. I noticed that he has no head support, should we be rear ended.
> Its funny I had never noticed it before, oh well..
>
> Now the question is, how can I add head rests to the back bench seat?
> Our son really enjoys his rides in the TJ, but I can't have him in the
> front because of the air bag and now I am hesitant in the back because
> of no head rests. As per local law in NZ, he is on a booster seat, but
> that also lacks back/head support.
>
> Any help or push in the right direction would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> TW


TW 01-29-2004 04:25 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Paul Keating" <pkeating@nospam.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.29.01.38.12.96715@nospam.sympatic o.ca...
>
> Clamp a bar horizontally, across the vertical posts of the roll bar and
> mount a pad on it at head level. As the boy grows, you can move it higher
> up the roll bar to stay at head level.
>
> Pual
>


Thanks, thats an interesting idea. I can probably make the clamps so that
they can be easily taken off when I do have to fold the seat in the back!
A good project for the upcoming long weekend here in NZ.

Thanks
TW



TW 01-29-2004 04:25 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Paul Keating" <pkeating@nospam.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.29.01.38.12.96715@nospam.sympatic o.ca...
>
> Clamp a bar horizontally, across the vertical posts of the roll bar and
> mount a pad on it at head level. As the boy grows, you can move it higher
> up the roll bar to stay at head level.
>
> Pual
>


Thanks, thats an interesting idea. I can probably make the clamps so that
they can be easily taken off when I do have to fold the seat in the back!
A good project for the upcoming long weekend here in NZ.

Thanks
TW



TW 01-29-2004 04:25 AM

Re: Possibility of head rests in the back on a '01 TJ?
 
Paul Keating" <pkeating@nospam.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.29.01.38.12.96715@nospam.sympatic o.ca...
>
> Clamp a bar horizontally, across the vertical posts of the roll bar and
> mount a pad on it at head level. As the boy grows, you can move it higher
> up the roll bar to stay at head level.
>
> Pual
>


Thanks, thats an interesting idea. I can probably make the clamps so that
they can be easily taken off when I do have to fold the seat in the back!
A good project for the upcoming long weekend here in NZ.

Thanks
TW




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