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tjce 12-27-2005 11:39 AM

Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
(I want the original paint to still be visible)

Thanks


Jerry Bransford 12-27-2005 11:46 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 
POR-15 is meant for painting over rust (POR=Paint Over Rust) but I've
never heard of clear POR-15 anyway. I'm not sure what you're painting
but your best best is to go to an automotive paint store, not Walmart.

tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 12-27-2005 11:46 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 
POR-15 is meant for painting over rust (POR=Paint Over Rust) but I've
never heard of clear POR-15 anyway. I'm not sure what you're painting
but your best best is to go to an automotive paint store, not Walmart.

tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 12-27-2005 11:46 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 
POR-15 is meant for painting over rust (POR=Paint Over Rust) but I've
never heard of clear POR-15 anyway. I'm not sure what you're painting
but your best best is to go to an automotive paint store, not Walmart.

tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Coasty 12-27-2005 12:48 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I used this
http://www.herculiner.com/

Coasty

"tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>




Coasty 12-27-2005 12:48 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I used this
http://www.herculiner.com/

Coasty

"tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>




Coasty 12-27-2005 12:48 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I used this
http://www.herculiner.com/

Coasty

"tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>




Lee Ayrton 12-27-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 
And... The manufacturer recommends topcoating POR-15 anyway to shield it
from UV light for exterior use.

Wandering around the site, it looks like they've expanded the POR-15
line a bit -- it now comes in black, grey, silver and clear.


Jerry Bransford wrote:
> POR-15 is meant for painting over rust (POR=Paint Over Rust) but I've
> never heard of clear POR-15 anyway. I'm not sure what you're painting
> but your best best is to go to an automotive paint store, not Walmart.
>
> tjce wrote:
>
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>


Lee Ayrton 12-27-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 
And... The manufacturer recommends topcoating POR-15 anyway to shield it
from UV light for exterior use.

Wandering around the site, it looks like they've expanded the POR-15
line a bit -- it now comes in black, grey, silver and clear.


Jerry Bransford wrote:
> POR-15 is meant for painting over rust (POR=Paint Over Rust) but I've
> never heard of clear POR-15 anyway. I'm not sure what you're painting
> but your best best is to go to an automotive paint store, not Walmart.
>
> tjce wrote:
>
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>


Lee Ayrton 12-27-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 
And... The manufacturer recommends topcoating POR-15 anyway to shield it
from UV light for exterior use.

Wandering around the site, it looks like they've expanded the POR-15
line a bit -- it now comes in black, grey, silver and clear.


Jerry Bransford wrote:
> POR-15 is meant for painting over rust (POR=Paint Over Rust) but I've
> never heard of clear POR-15 anyway. I'm not sure what you're painting
> but your best best is to go to an automotive paint store, not Walmart.
>
> tjce wrote:
>
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>


Lee Ayrton 12-27-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 

POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only
be wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.

For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be
applying it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.

I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application
-- if you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if
you brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And,
if you get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and
scratches you get on it.


tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>


Lee Ayrton 12-27-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 

POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only
be wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.

For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be
applying it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.

I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application
-- if you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if
you brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And,
if you get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and
scratches you get on it.


tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>


Lee Ayrton 12-27-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 

POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only
be wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.

For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be
applying it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.

I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application
-- if you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if
you brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And,
if you get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and
scratches you get on it.


tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>


12-28-2005 12:01 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
zinc coating.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
> wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
> underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
> isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
> POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>
> For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
> galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
> it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>
> I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
> You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
> you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
> brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
> get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
> get on it.
>
>
> tjce wrote:
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>




12-28-2005 12:01 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
zinc coating.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
> wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
> underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
> isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
> POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>
> For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
> galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
> it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>
> I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
> You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
> you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
> brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
> get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
> get on it.
>
>
> tjce wrote:
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>




12-28-2005 12:01 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
zinc coating.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
> wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
> underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
> isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
> POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>
> For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
> galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
> it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>
> I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
> You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
> you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
> brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
> get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
> get on it.
>
>
> tjce wrote:
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>




Lee Ayrton 12-28-2005 02:06 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 

POR-15's instructions recommend using their zinc phosphate prep coating
on new metal, aluminum and galvanized metal. See:
<URL:http://www.por15.com/technicalInfo.asp> under the "Application of
POR-15 to new metal" paragraph. My guess is that it is a "tooth" issue.
POR needs a certain minimum amount of surface roughness to stick to or
it will peel.


beebop3@earthlink.net wrote:
> I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
> zinc coating.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
>>wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
>>underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
>>isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
>>POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>>
>>For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
>>galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
>>it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>>
>>I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
>>You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
>>you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
>>brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
>>get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
>>get on it.
>>
>>
>>tjce wrote:
>>
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>>warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>>Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>>(I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>

>
>
>


Lee Ayrton 12-28-2005 02:06 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 

POR-15's instructions recommend using their zinc phosphate prep coating
on new metal, aluminum and galvanized metal. See:
<URL:http://www.por15.com/technicalInfo.asp> under the "Application of
POR-15 to new metal" paragraph. My guess is that it is a "tooth" issue.
POR needs a certain minimum amount of surface roughness to stick to or
it will peel.


beebop3@earthlink.net wrote:
> I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
> zinc coating.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
>>wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
>>underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
>>isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
>>POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>>
>>For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
>>galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
>>it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>>
>>I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
>>You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
>>you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
>>brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
>>get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
>>get on it.
>>
>>
>>tjce wrote:
>>
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>>warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>>Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>>(I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>

>
>
>


Lee Ayrton 12-28-2005 02:06 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the insideof my jeep
 

POR-15's instructions recommend using their zinc phosphate prep coating
on new metal, aluminum and galvanized metal. See:
<URL:http://www.por15.com/technicalInfo.asp> under the "Application of
POR-15 to new metal" paragraph. My guess is that it is a "tooth" issue.
POR needs a certain minimum amount of surface roughness to stick to or
it will peel.


beebop3@earthlink.net wrote:
> I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
> zinc coating.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
>>wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
>>underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
>>isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
>>POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>>
>>For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
>>galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
>>it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>>
>>I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
>>You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
>>you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
>>brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
>>get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
>>get on it.
>>
>>
>>tjce wrote:
>>
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>>warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>>Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>>(I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>

>
>
>


Drink 12-28-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray cans
for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or the
others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which isn't
hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the edges
will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix different
colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if they've got
left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or edges. Just
let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
Jim

"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I used this
> http://www.herculiner.com/
>
> Coasty
>
> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>
>




Drink 12-28-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray cans
for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or the
others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which isn't
hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the edges
will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix different
colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if they've got
left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or edges. Just
let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
Jim

"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I used this
> http://www.herculiner.com/
>
> Coasty
>
> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>
>




Drink 12-28-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray cans
for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or the
others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which isn't
hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the edges
will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix different
colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if they've got
left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or edges. Just
let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
Jim

"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I used this
> http://www.herculiner.com/
>
> Coasty
>
> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>
>




Coasty 12-29-2005 06:26 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
It costs about 4 bills to have the tub done at rhino or x-liner. A bud had
used Herculiner in his horse trailer and it held up fantastic he put 3 coats
on. Prior to me using the hurculiner I did my home work contacted other
people who had used in their pick-ups and jeeps no one had a bad thing to
say about it. The only recommendation they had is use a stippling brush this
produces a better finish. It took one gallon to do 3 coast in the tub of my
TJ and one weekend of time had everything back together by the evening the
second day. I had my ram done with rhino and liked it the only thing I did
not have them do the bed rails. I did the bed rails with herculiner and you
cannot tell the difference and it really holds up. Three coats provides a
1/16 inch thick coat which protects everything and deadens some road noise
and I removed my carpeting which makes clean up easier. Last year I did the
inside of my dodge ram and love it ice, snow, salt, dirt, mud and abuse have
not hurt it. I have had the herculiner in for two years now in my TJ and
have no negative input about it.

Coasty



"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:dovcad$dr9$1@news.utelfla.com...
> I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
> the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray
> cans for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
> show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or
> the others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which
> isn't hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the
> edges will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix
> different colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if
> they've got left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or
> edges. Just let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
> Jim
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I used this
>> http://www.herculiner.com/
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Coasty 12-29-2005 06:26 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
It costs about 4 bills to have the tub done at rhino or x-liner. A bud had
used Herculiner in his horse trailer and it held up fantastic he put 3 coats
on. Prior to me using the hurculiner I did my home work contacted other
people who had used in their pick-ups and jeeps no one had a bad thing to
say about it. The only recommendation they had is use a stippling brush this
produces a better finish. It took one gallon to do 3 coast in the tub of my
TJ and one weekend of time had everything back together by the evening the
second day. I had my ram done with rhino and liked it the only thing I did
not have them do the bed rails. I did the bed rails with herculiner and you
cannot tell the difference and it really holds up. Three coats provides a
1/16 inch thick coat which protects everything and deadens some road noise
and I removed my carpeting which makes clean up easier. Last year I did the
inside of my dodge ram and love it ice, snow, salt, dirt, mud and abuse have
not hurt it. I have had the herculiner in for two years now in my TJ and
have no negative input about it.

Coasty



"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:dovcad$dr9$1@news.utelfla.com...
> I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
> the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray
> cans for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
> show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or
> the others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which
> isn't hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the
> edges will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix
> different colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if
> they've got left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or
> edges. Just let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
> Jim
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I used this
>> http://www.herculiner.com/
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Coasty 12-29-2005 06:26 AM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
It costs about 4 bills to have the tub done at rhino or x-liner. A bud had
used Herculiner in his horse trailer and it held up fantastic he put 3 coats
on. Prior to me using the hurculiner I did my home work contacted other
people who had used in their pick-ups and jeeps no one had a bad thing to
say about it. The only recommendation they had is use a stippling brush this
produces a better finish. It took one gallon to do 3 coast in the tub of my
TJ and one weekend of time had everything back together by the evening the
second day. I had my ram done with rhino and liked it the only thing I did
not have them do the bed rails. I did the bed rails with herculiner and you
cannot tell the difference and it really holds up. Three coats provides a
1/16 inch thick coat which protects everything and deadens some road noise
and I removed my carpeting which makes clean up easier. Last year I did the
inside of my dodge ram and love it ice, snow, salt, dirt, mud and abuse have
not hurt it. I have had the herculiner in for two years now in my TJ and
have no negative input about it.

Coasty



"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:dovcad$dr9$1@news.utelfla.com...
> I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
> the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray
> cans for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
> show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or
> the others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which
> isn't hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the
> edges will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix
> different colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if
> they've got left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or
> edges. Just let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
> Jim
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I used this
>> http://www.herculiner.com/
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Coasty 12-29-2005 01:00 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
it costs about 4 bills to have the tub done at rhino or x-liner. A bud had
used Herculiner in his horse trailer and it held up fantastic he put 3 coats
on. Prior to me using the hurculiner I did my home work contacted other
people who had used in their pick-ups and jeeps no one had a bad thing to
say about it. The only recommendation they had is use a stippling brush this
produces a better finish. It took one gallon to do 3 coast in the tub of my
TJ and one weekend of time had everything back together by the evening the
second day. I had my ram done with rhino and liked it the only thing I did
not have them do the bed rails. I did the bed rails with herculiner and you
cannot tell the difference and it really holds up. Three coats provides a
1/16 inch thick coat which protects everything and deadens some road noise
and I removed my carpeting which makes clean up easier. Last year I did the
inside of my dodge ram and love it ice, snow, salt, dirt, mud and abuse have
not hurt it. I have had the herculiner in for two years now in my TJ and
have no negative input about it.

Coasty

"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:dovcad$dr9$1@news.utelfla.com...
> I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
> the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray
> cans for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
> show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or
> the others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which
> isn't hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the
> edges will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix
> different colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if
> they've got left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or
> edges. Just let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
> Jim
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I used this
>> http://www.herculiner.com/
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Coasty 12-29-2005 01:00 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
it costs about 4 bills to have the tub done at rhino or x-liner. A bud had
used Herculiner in his horse trailer and it held up fantastic he put 3 coats
on. Prior to me using the hurculiner I did my home work contacted other
people who had used in their pick-ups and jeeps no one had a bad thing to
say about it. The only recommendation they had is use a stippling brush this
produces a better finish. It took one gallon to do 3 coast in the tub of my
TJ and one weekend of time had everything back together by the evening the
second day. I had my ram done with rhino and liked it the only thing I did
not have them do the bed rails. I did the bed rails with herculiner and you
cannot tell the difference and it really holds up. Three coats provides a
1/16 inch thick coat which protects everything and deadens some road noise
and I removed my carpeting which makes clean up easier. Last year I did the
inside of my dodge ram and love it ice, snow, salt, dirt, mud and abuse have
not hurt it. I have had the herculiner in for two years now in my TJ and
have no negative input about it.

Coasty

"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:dovcad$dr9$1@news.utelfla.com...
> I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
> the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray
> cans for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
> show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or
> the others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which
> isn't hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the
> edges will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix
> different colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if
> they've got left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or
> edges. Just let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
> Jim
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I used this
>> http://www.herculiner.com/
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Coasty 12-29-2005 01:00 PM

Re: Is por 15 my only option for something clear to protect the inside of my jeep
 
it costs about 4 bills to have the tub done at rhino or x-liner. A bud had
used Herculiner in his horse trailer and it held up fantastic he put 3 coats
on. Prior to me using the hurculiner I did my home work contacted other
people who had used in their pick-ups and jeeps no one had a bad thing to
say about it. The only recommendation they had is use a stippling brush this
produces a better finish. It took one gallon to do 3 coast in the tub of my
TJ and one weekend of time had everything back together by the evening the
second day. I had my ram done with rhino and liked it the only thing I did
not have them do the bed rails. I did the bed rails with herculiner and you
cannot tell the difference and it really holds up. Three coats provides a
1/16 inch thick coat which protects everything and deadens some road noise
and I removed my carpeting which makes clean up easier. Last year I did the
inside of my dodge ram and love it ice, snow, salt, dirt, mud and abuse have
not hurt it. I have had the herculiner in for two years now in my TJ and
have no negative input about it.

Coasty

"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:dovcad$dr9$1@news.utelfla.com...
> I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
> the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray
> cans for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
> show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or
> the others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which
> isn't hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the
> edges will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix
> different colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if
> they've got left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or
> edges. Just let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
> Jim
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I used this
>> http://www.herculiner.com/
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>





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