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08-26-2003, 04:51 PM
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hi bill,
how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
conversion?
thanks!
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http://7SlotGrille.com
how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
conversion?
thanks!
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Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
08-26-2003, 04:53 PM
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Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
<http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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: hi bill,
: how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
: conversion?
: thanks!
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
:
<http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:yLP2b.20409$J16.1215594@twister.southeast.rr. com...
: hi bill,
: how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
: conversion?
: thanks!
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
:
08-26-2003, 04:53 PM
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Re: PING --> bill ------
Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
<http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:yLP2b.20409$J16.1215594@twister.southeast.rr. com...
: hi bill,
: how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
: conversion?
: thanks!
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
:
<http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:yLP2b.20409$J16.1215594@twister.southeast.rr. com...
: hi bill,
: how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
: conversion?
: thanks!
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
:
08-26-2003, 04:53 PM
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Re: PING --> bill ------
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> hi bill,
> how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
> conversion?
nevermind. http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm i found it on your
links page bill, thanks.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:yLP2b.20409$J16.1215594@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> hi bill,
> how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
> conversion?
nevermind. http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm i found it on your
links page bill, thanks.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
08-26-2003, 04:53 PM
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Re: PING --> bill ------
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:yLP2b.20409$J16.1215594@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> hi bill,
> how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
> conversion?
nevermind. http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm i found it on your
links page bill, thanks.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:yLP2b.20409$J16.1215594@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> hi bill,
> how about that link that shows the toyota before and after solid axle
> conversion?
nevermind. http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm i found it on your
links page bill, thanks.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
08-26-2003, 05:06 PM
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Re: PING --> bill ------
Or a Libby vs. a Cherokee: http://bigcherokee.com/pics/XJvKJ.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
>
> <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
>
> <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
08-26-2003, 05:06 PM
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Re: PING --> bill ------
Or a Libby vs. a Cherokee: http://bigcherokee.com/pics/XJvKJ.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
>
> <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
>
> <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
08-27-2003, 12:31 AM
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> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
> >
> > <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
This is an excellent link and a great example of a biased or "slanted"
opinion and/or an unfair comparison. Please read on before you get
pissed:
Look at the placement of the left front tire on each picture. On the
right picture, we see the tire firmly planted on a relatively flat
parallel surface yet on the left picture we see the tire pressing
directly on the edge of a slanted, sharp edge. Heck, even the wheels
are turned slightly inward and left which would definately help slam
the right front tire into the ground. Don't get me wrong, solid is
better and makes more sense off-road but this is hardly the same line
taken in each photo. I'll betcha if the tire placement was the same
in each picture there wouldn't be such a dramatic difference. Heck,
the IFS picture might even show the right front touching the ground.
I would also venture to guess that alot of this would also depend on
the weight or balance of the rig, wheel base, and flex of the rear
suspension.
In closing, I can make my my solid axle YJ do the same thing as the
picture on the right with the front sway bars connected and only me in
the Jeep if I hit that rock the same way. IFS just isn't the evil
red-headed stepchild it's rumored to be...
Constructive comments alway welcome (helps educate me),
Brian
> >
> > Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
> >
> > <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
This is an excellent link and a great example of a biased or "slanted"
opinion and/or an unfair comparison. Please read on before you get
pissed:
Look at the placement of the left front tire on each picture. On the
right picture, we see the tire firmly planted on a relatively flat
parallel surface yet on the left picture we see the tire pressing
directly on the edge of a slanted, sharp edge. Heck, even the wheels
are turned slightly inward and left which would definately help slam
the right front tire into the ground. Don't get me wrong, solid is
better and makes more sense off-road but this is hardly the same line
taken in each photo. I'll betcha if the tire placement was the same
in each picture there wouldn't be such a dramatic difference. Heck,
the IFS picture might even show the right front touching the ground.
I would also venture to guess that alot of this would also depend on
the weight or balance of the rig, wheel base, and flex of the rear
suspension.
In closing, I can make my my solid axle YJ do the same thing as the
picture on the right with the front sway bars connected and only me in
the Jeep if I hit that rock the same way. IFS just isn't the evil
red-headed stepchild it's rumored to be...
Constructive comments alway welcome (helps educate me),
Brian
08-27-2003, 12:31 AM
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Re: PING --> bill ------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
> >
> > <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
This is an excellent link and a great example of a biased or "slanted"
opinion and/or an unfair comparison. Please read on before you get
pissed:
Look at the placement of the left front tire on each picture. On the
right picture, we see the tire firmly planted on a relatively flat
parallel surface yet on the left picture we see the tire pressing
directly on the edge of a slanted, sharp edge. Heck, even the wheels
are turned slightly inward and left which would definately help slam
the right front tire into the ground. Don't get me wrong, solid is
better and makes more sense off-road but this is hardly the same line
taken in each photo. I'll betcha if the tire placement was the same
in each picture there wouldn't be such a dramatic difference. Heck,
the IFS picture might even show the right front touching the ground.
I would also venture to guess that alot of this would also depend on
the weight or balance of the rig, wheel base, and flex of the rear
suspension.
In closing, I can make my my solid axle YJ do the same thing as the
picture on the right with the front sway bars connected and only me in
the Jeep if I hit that rock the same way. IFS just isn't the evil
red-headed stepchild it's rumored to be...
Constructive comments alway welcome (helps educate me),
Brian
> >
> > Was this the one you were thinking of Nate ?
> >
> > <http://www.ohiomurals.com/jeepin/axles.htm>
This is an excellent link and a great example of a biased or "slanted"
opinion and/or an unfair comparison. Please read on before you get
pissed:
Look at the placement of the left front tire on each picture. On the
right picture, we see the tire firmly planted on a relatively flat
parallel surface yet on the left picture we see the tire pressing
directly on the edge of a slanted, sharp edge. Heck, even the wheels
are turned slightly inward and left which would definately help slam
the right front tire into the ground. Don't get me wrong, solid is
better and makes more sense off-road but this is hardly the same line
taken in each photo. I'll betcha if the tire placement was the same
in each picture there wouldn't be such a dramatic difference. Heck,
the IFS picture might even show the right front touching the ground.
I would also venture to guess that alot of this would also depend on
the weight or balance of the rig, wheel base, and flex of the rear
suspension.
In closing, I can make my my solid axle YJ do the same thing as the
picture on the right with the front sway bars connected and only me in
the Jeep if I hit that rock the same way. IFS just isn't the evil
red-headed stepchild it's rumored to be...
Constructive comments alway welcome (helps educate me),
Brian
08-27-2003, 01:14 AM
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"bjc" <brianc@mvis.com> wrote in message
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> Look at the placement of the left front tire on each picture. On the
> right picture, we see the tire firmly planted on a relatively flat
> parallel surface yet on the left picture we see the tire pressing
> directly on the edge of a slanted, sharp edge.
hi brian,
thats because when one side of the axle flexes/drops/extends, the tire on
the other side has to lean down. thats just the nature of a solid axle,
there is nothing "suspicious" going on in those photos.
> I'll betcha if the tire placement was the same
> in each picture there wouldn't be such a dramatic difference.
please tell me youve been drinking tonight. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:932e5569.0308262031.3b6d7058@posting.google.c om...
> Look at the placement of the left front tire on each picture. On the
> right picture, we see the tire firmly planted on a relatively flat
> parallel surface yet on the left picture we see the tire pressing
> directly on the edge of a slanted, sharp edge.
hi brian,
thats because when one side of the axle flexes/drops/extends, the tire on
the other side has to lean down. thats just the nature of a solid axle,
there is nothing "suspicious" going on in those photos.
> I'll betcha if the tire placement was the same
> in each picture there wouldn't be such a dramatic difference.
please tell me youve been drinking tonight. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com