Re: Paging Nathan Collier about Montanna
 

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:28:54 GMT, Lon Stowell
<Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:

>>> Except in a bar, a courtroom, or if memory serves, a bank. Not
>>> sure about church or funeral home. You really don't see them on
>>> the street that much any more. Back in the '50s it wasn't that
>>> unusual to see a rancher walking around in downtown Kalispell with
>>> one or two holstered guns...but mostly due to forgetting to
>>> lock them up and just leave the holsters. Nobody really paid
>>> any attention, even the police. In other words it also wasn't
>>> something you saw every day either. Out away from town, far
>>> more normal to have a holstered gun when working away from the
>>> house on a ranch.
>>
>> You are correct as far as I know. I think a Church would depend and I
>> know for a solid fact you cannot wear one into a US Post Office or any
>> Federal building. I don't know about State buildings but that could
>> vary from State to State.
>> I'd probably carry if I was out riding ATV or a Sled specially in the
>> Boonies.
>
>> But unless the town was really wild I'd leave them at home. You can't
>> leave them in the truck IIRC.
>
> Yes, you can, at least in Montana.
> The guns are not for people or wild west towns, they are ranching
> tools for dealing with critters or badly injured animals.

Maybe but if I had real problem with a 2 legged animal I'd probably
use it to save my life.
I actually did this many years ago. I always carried a .357 magnum
with a 4 inch barrel. I eventually went to an automatic pistol but I
always and I mean ALWAYS carried it during hunting season. The cops
would give me a hard tme about it because you aren't allowed to hunt
with a pistol during deer season. But anyway. I was out looking at
some fairly remote land and it was during the day and during hunting
season. The land bordered a road but no house just bare land. Now of
course in hindsight I'd wear a safety orange vest but we were out
maybe 100 yards towards the back line of the property. I heard a shot
and pieces of a tree about 10 feet away just exploded. Some cluless FK
was shooting at me thinking I was a deer. The realtor nearly ---- his
pants and my now ex-wife was in about the same condition.
I pulled out the .357 while I'm yelling Don't Shoot! Don't Shoot! and
proceeded to shoot 3 rounds into a fairly large tree a few feet away.
I never saw who fired that shot but we were real careful getting out
of there.
If you run into some guys who think they are bad ass and it's just
you. It's best to be prepared.

Re: Paging Nathan Collier about Montanna
 

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:39:00 GMT, "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2n1nv420p6roj9uced6fs47ukhcv093lj@4ax.com.. .
>> I used to really get duffed in the pits, which is pretty much all we
>> had around here until the Nazi's that run the towns and cities,
>> decided that they need to close off all the Pits and make riding in
>> them illegal in a big way.
>
>dont you just love "progress"?

No, truthfully I can't even make a sarcastic remark about it. Almost
every place you can ride now is shut down.
This area is too congested and everyone has no hunting and now
snowmobile signs up everywhere. They are passing all kinds of laws on
the lakes that are against Jet Ski's and now many of the lakes have
speed limits and the cops patrol with radar guns.
I am so out of here when the time comes!

>> I used to see parents bring the ATV's to the sand pits and all ride
>> together.
>
>i dont have anything against loading up a family on an atv so long as the
>driver is responsible. when we overload just to putt around, we never see
>even 10mph.

I saw one dad walking his kid on an ATV that had a kill leash on it.
Yank the leash the ATV dies.
Lots of families would have a couple of ATV's and take turns riding. I
saw this a lot before they fully shut the pits down.
Some jerks would steal cars and go in there and torch them which did
not help at all.
I have seen a bunch of people climb on a Quad. Remember Quads were
fairly new back then. I had a 3 wheel Yamaha 175 2 stroke.
But I'd see them all get on the quqad and ride way out into the pit
and get off and then take tuns but it was rare to see more than 2
people on a quad. Tons of bikes tho.

>> But still he was in the house
>> watching TV and having a beer.
>
>bullseye.
>
>> I haven't heard it she was drinking or if it was a mechanical failure.
>
>as i understand it, she changed lanes for no apparent reason and struck them
>head on.

Could be a mechanical failure although the cops aren'treal good at
determining that. Hopefully they will not screw it up moving the car.
If she wasn't drunk and it was a mechanical failure that will make a
big difference. It's still a tragedy that could have been avoided.

Re: Paging Nathan Collier about Montanna
 

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:39:00 GMT, "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2n1nv420p6roj9uced6fs47ukhcv093lj@4ax.com.. .
>> I used to really get duffed in the pits, which is pretty much all we
>> had around here until the Nazi's that run the towns and cities,
>> decided that they need to close off all the Pits and make riding in
>> them illegal in a big way.
>
>dont you just love "progress"?

No, truthfully I can't even make a sarcastic remark about it. Almost
every place you can ride now is shut down.
This area is too congested and everyone has no hunting and now
snowmobile signs up everywhere. They are passing all kinds of laws on
the lakes that are against Jet Ski's and now many of the lakes have
speed limits and the cops patrol with radar guns.
I am so out of here when the time comes!

>> I used to see parents bring the ATV's to the sand pits and all ride
>> together.
>
>i dont have anything against loading up a family on an atv so long as the
>driver is responsible. when we overload just to putt around, we never see
>even 10mph.

I saw one dad walking his kid on an ATV that had a kill leash on it.
Yank the leash the ATV dies.
Lots of families would have a couple of ATV's and take turns riding. I
saw this a lot before they fully shut the pits down.
Some jerks would steal cars and go in there and torch them which did
not help at all.
I have seen a bunch of people climb on a Quad. Remember Quads were
fairly new back then. I had a 3 wheel Yamaha 175 2 stroke.
But I'd see them all get on the quqad and ride way out into the pit
and get off and then take tuns but it was rare to see more than 2
people on a quad. Tons of bikes tho.

>> But still he was in the house
>> watching TV and having a beer.
>
>bullseye.
>
>> I haven't heard it she was drinking or if it was a mechanical failure.
>
>as i understand it, she changed lanes for no apparent reason and struck them
>head on.

Could be a mechanical failure although the cops aren'treal good at
determining that. Hopefully they will not screw it up moving the car.
If she wasn't drunk and it was a mechanical failure that will make a
big difference. It's still a tragedy that could have been avoided.