Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:14:03 -0600, "Nathan W. Collier"
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:

>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.

Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.

I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.

Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(

I give them all a wide berth....

John

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

So, there's something inherently different about the Defenders? Heavier?
Or ?

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Dave Milne (jeep@_nospam_milne.info) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:18 pm:

> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg. Without it, it is 2000lb. I
> have towed 1500kg with my twin axle braked 8' x 6' bed trailer and it is
> perfectly stable. Wouldn't try much more though, and not that with a
> single axle trailer or unbraked one..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ujl8e.7675$An2.7612@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> While perusing a Land Rover web page, I noticed that the towing capacity
> of
>> a Defender 90 is similar to that of a Jeep's except when using a trailer
>> with "over-run" brakes, in which case the towing capacity is about 7,700
>> lbs (3,500 kgs).

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

So, there's something inherently different about the Defenders? Heavier?
Or ?

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Dave Milne (jeep@_nospam_milne.info) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:18 pm:

> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg. Without it, it is 2000lb. I
> have towed 1500kg with my twin axle braked 8' x 6' bed trailer and it is
> perfectly stable. Wouldn't try much more though, and not that with a
> single axle trailer or unbraked one..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ujl8e.7675$An2.7612@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> While perusing a Land Rover web page, I noticed that the towing capacity
> of
>> a Defender 90 is similar to that of a Jeep's except when using a trailer
>> with "over-run" brakes, in which case the towing capacity is about 7,700
>> lbs (3,500 kgs).

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

So, there's something inherently different about the Defenders? Heavier?
Or ?

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Dave Milne (jeep@_nospam_milne.info) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:18 pm:

> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg. Without it, it is 2000lb. I
> have towed 1500kg with my twin axle braked 8' x 6' bed trailer and it is
> perfectly stable. Wouldn't try much more though, and not that with a
> single axle trailer or unbraked one..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ujl8e.7675$An2.7612@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> While perusing a Land Rover web page, I noticed that the towing capacity
> of
>> a Defender 90 is similar to that of a Jeep's except when using a trailer
>> with "over-run" brakes, in which case the towing capacity is about 7,700
>> lbs (3,500 kgs).

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

So, there's something inherently different about the Defenders? Heavier?
Or ?

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Dave Milne (jeep@_nospam_milne.info) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:18 pm:

> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg. Without it, it is 2000lb. I
> have towed 1500kg with my twin axle braked 8' x 6' bed trailer and it is
> perfectly stable. Wouldn't try much more though, and not that with a
> single axle trailer or unbraked one..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ujl8e.7675$An2.7612@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> While perusing a Land Rover web page, I noticed that the towing capacity
> of
>> a Defender 90 is similar to that of a Jeep's except when using a trailer
>> with "over-run" brakes, in which case the towing capacity is about 7,700
>> lbs (3,500 kgs).

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:036661d3b8ftvqg0k5cjb0j324ln7tqbr0@4ax.com...
> Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.

lol.....understood!

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:036661d3b8ftvqg0k5cjb0j324ln7tqbr0@4ax.com...
> Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.

lol.....understood!

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:036661d3b8ftvqg0k5cjb0j324ln7tqbr0@4ax.com...
> Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.

lol.....understood!

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:036661d3b8ftvqg0k5cjb0j324ln7tqbr0@4ax.com...
> Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.

lol.....understood!

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: "over-run" brakes?
 

The Defender is heavier, and has more substantial axles and a much stronger
box section chassis, more akin to the Wagoneer in size.However, it still
has the same short wheel base as the Jeep, higher ground clearance and a
less powerful engine. It probably comes down to a less litigious attitude...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:R_G8e.10003$lP1.836@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> So, there's something inherently different about the Defenders? Heavier?
> Or ?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>
> Dave Milne (jeep@_nospam_milne.info) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:18
pm:
>
> > Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> > simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> > which disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg. Without it, it is 2000lb.
I
> > have towed 1500kg with my twin axle braked 8' x 6' bed trailer and it is
> > perfectly stable. Wouldn't try much more though, and not that with a
> > single axle trailer or unbraked one..
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:ujl8e.7675$An2.7612@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> >> While perusing a Land Rover web page, I noticed that the towing
capacity
> > of
> >> a Defender 90 is similar to that of a Jeep's except when using a
trailer
> >> with "over-run" brakes, in which case the towing capacity is about
7,700
> >> lbs (3,500 kgs).
>