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Rusted 03-16-2005 02:07 PM

OT windshields
 
Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to go
"cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".




HarryS 03-16-2005 05:49 PM

Re: OT windshields
 
http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php

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HarryS My 2¢
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
| Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
| What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
| aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
go
| "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
|
|
|



HarryS 03-16-2005 05:49 PM

Re: OT windshields
 
http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php

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HarryS My 2¢
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
| Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
| What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
| aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
go
| "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
|
|
|



HarryS 03-16-2005 05:49 PM

Re: OT windshields
 
http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
| Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
| What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
| aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
go
| "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
|
|
|



Lee Ayrton 03-17-2005 10:14 PM

Re: OT windshields
 

Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, HarryS wrote:

>
> http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
> | Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
> | What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
> | aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
> go
> | "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 03-17-2005 10:14 PM

Re: OT windshields
 

Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, HarryS wrote:

>
> http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
> | Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
> | What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
> | aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
> go
> | "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 03-17-2005 10:14 PM

Re: OT windshields
 

Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, HarryS wrote:

>
> http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
> | Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
> | What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
> | aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
> go
> | "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


DougW 03-18-2005 01:02 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
> Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
> street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.

--
DougW



DougW 03-18-2005 01:02 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
> Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
> street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.

--
DougW



DougW 03-18-2005 01:02 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
> Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
> street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.

--
DougW



Jerry Bransford 03-18-2005 01:09 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
They scratch LIKE CRAZY.... even the normal use of windshield wiper
blades just scratche the hell out of them.

DougW wrote:
> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>
>
> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 03-18-2005 01:09 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
They scratch LIKE CRAZY.... even the normal use of windshield wiper
blades just scratche the hell out of them.

DougW wrote:
> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>
>
> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 03-18-2005 01:09 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
They scratch LIKE CRAZY.... even the normal use of windshield wiper
blades just scratche the hell out of them.

DougW wrote:
> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>
>
> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

DougW 03-18-2005 01:13 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
Jerry Bransford did pass the time by typing:
> They scratch LIKE CRAZY.... even the normal use of windshield wiper
> blades just scratche the hell out of them.


The only use I've ever seen out of them is in IASCA competition vehicles
where the sound pressure would shatter normal safety glass.

That and non-wiper windows such as camper shells. But even then an errant
wipe with a paper towel will scratch them.

> DougW wrote:
>> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>> street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>>
>>
>> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.





DougW 03-18-2005 01:13 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
Jerry Bransford did pass the time by typing:
> They scratch LIKE CRAZY.... even the normal use of windshield wiper
> blades just scratche the hell out of them.


The only use I've ever seen out of them is in IASCA competition vehicles
where the sound pressure would shatter normal safety glass.

That and non-wiper windows such as camper shells. But even then an errant
wipe with a paper towel will scratch them.

> DougW wrote:
>> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>> street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>>
>>
>> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.





DougW 03-18-2005 01:13 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
Jerry Bransford did pass the time by typing:
> They scratch LIKE CRAZY.... even the normal use of windshield wiper
> blades just scratche the hell out of them.


The only use I've ever seen out of them is in IASCA competition vehicles
where the sound pressure would shatter normal safety glass.

That and non-wiper windows such as camper shells. But even then an errant
wipe with a paper towel will scratch them.

> DougW wrote:
>> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>> street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>>
>>
>> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.





HarryS 03-18-2005 04:12 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
DOT approved and hold up under wiper use you just cannot clean them like
glass by the use of chemicals (widex).

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0503172213180.10252@panix2.pani x.com...

Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, HarryS wrote:

>
> http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
> | Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
> | What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
> | aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
> go
> | "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



HarryS 03-18-2005 04:12 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
DOT approved and hold up under wiper use you just cannot clean them like
glass by the use of chemicals (widex).

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0503172213180.10252@panix2.pani x.com...

Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, HarryS wrote:

>
> http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
> | Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
> | What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
> | aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
> go
> | "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



HarryS 03-18-2005 04:12 AM

Re: OT windshields
 
DOT approved and hold up under wiper use you just cannot clean them like
glass by the use of chemicals (widex).

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0503172213180.10252@panix2.pani x.com...

Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, HarryS wrote:

>
> http://www.ih8mud.com/reviews/fj40-polycarb.php
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> news:772_d.5926$ly6.397@fe45.usenetserver.com...
> | Is there a difference in windshield glass from factory to aftermarket?
> | What are the differences? How hard is it to find factory quality glass
> | aftermarket? Seems like all of the replacement shops are all trying to
> go
> | "cheap", where I want to look for more "quality".
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



Lee Ayrton 03-20-2005 04:53 PM

Re: OT windshields
 
DougW wrote:
> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>
>
> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.


I don't think that it is up to the states. Windshield systems are now
considered part of the restraint system and as such are covered by NHTSA
vehicle safety regulations. The state rules that I found on-line
simply point back to 49 CFR 571.5 -- the actual text of which I cannot
coax out of Google. In any case, it looks like AS-1 lamanated safety
glazing for motor vehicles is currently the only legal windshield for
highway use.

The "not-wiper safe" part will be a show-stopper. The government is
never going to allow a windshield that interfers with driver vision.



Lee Ayrton 03-20-2005 04:53 PM

Re: OT windshields
 
DougW wrote:
> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>
>
> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.


I don't think that it is up to the states. Windshield systems are now
considered part of the restraint system and as such are covered by NHTSA
vehicle safety regulations. The state rules that I found on-line
simply point back to 49 CFR 571.5 -- the actual text of which I cannot
coax out of Google. In any case, it looks like AS-1 lamanated safety
glazing for motor vehicles is currently the only legal windshield for
highway use.

The "not-wiper safe" part will be a show-stopper. The government is
never going to allow a windshield that interfers with driver vision.



Lee Ayrton 03-20-2005 04:53 PM

Re: OT windshields
 
DougW wrote:
> Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Without looking I'm guessing that the polycarbonate winshields are neither
>>street-legal nor windshield-wiper safe.

>
>
> Street legal, depends on state. Winshield wiper safe, no.


I don't think that it is up to the states. Windshield systems are now
considered part of the restraint system and as such are covered by NHTSA
vehicle safety regulations. The state rules that I found on-line
simply point back to 49 CFR 571.5 -- the actual text of which I cannot
coax out of Google. In any case, it looks like AS-1 lamanated safety
glazing for motor vehicles is currently the only legal windshield for
highway use.

The "not-wiper safe" part will be a show-stopper. The government is
never going to allow a windshield that interfers with driver vision.




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