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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 04:50 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Yet another observation from Captain Beside-the-Point. Can I get a group
> "DUH!"?


Jeff Strickland 03-10-2005 05:20 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
We understand that completely, but is not part of the question.

The tires wear because the struts or the shocks are worn, allowing the tires
to bounce in a harmonic pattern that results in cupping along the edges of
the tires.

I can't ever remember seeing a strut fall apart to the point that the
suspension suffered a catastrophic failure of the type you are talking
about. The strut has significant structural components to hold it together
even if it fails to the point that the tires bounce and wear out unevenly.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4230C136.A042AAB8@cox.net...
> Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
> here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
> don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
> spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Yet another observation from Captain Beside-the-Point. Can I get a group
> > "DUH!"?




Jeff Strickland 03-10-2005 05:20 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
We understand that completely, but is not part of the question.

The tires wear because the struts or the shocks are worn, allowing the tires
to bounce in a harmonic pattern that results in cupping along the edges of
the tires.

I can't ever remember seeing a strut fall apart to the point that the
suspension suffered a catastrophic failure of the type you are talking
about. The strut has significant structural components to hold it together
even if it fails to the point that the tires bounce and wear out unevenly.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4230C136.A042AAB8@cox.net...
> Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
> here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
> don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
> spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Yet another observation from Captain Beside-the-Point. Can I get a group
> > "DUH!"?




Jeff Strickland 03-10-2005 05:20 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
We understand that completely, but is not part of the question.

The tires wear because the struts or the shocks are worn, allowing the tires
to bounce in a harmonic pattern that results in cupping along the edges of
the tires.

I can't ever remember seeing a strut fall apart to the point that the
suspension suffered a catastrophic failure of the type you are talking
about. The strut has significant structural components to hold it together
even if it fails to the point that the tires bounce and wear out unevenly.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4230C136.A042AAB8@cox.net...
> Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
> here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
> don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
> spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Yet another observation from Captain Beside-the-Point. Can I get a group
> > "DUH!"?




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 05:25 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
A couple of pictures to that may educate some in their differences:
http://www.allwheelalignment.com/suspension.htm

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
> here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
> don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
> spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 05:25 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
A couple of pictures to that may educate some in their differences:
http://www.allwheelalignment.com/suspension.htm

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
> here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
> don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
> spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 05:25 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
A couple of pictures to that may educate some in their differences:
http://www.allwheelalignment.com/suspension.htm

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Jeff, we are talking about struts here, as the subject indicates. Some
> here, you by the sheer simplicity of calling it a shock, and Jerry,
> don't seem to understand the strut is the only thing the steering
> spindle pivots on. So as to avoid killing this poor guy, I speak.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 05:43 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
I've seen them fall apart, maybe as part of an incomplete accident
repair, but they hold the wheel on just the same as the Libby's ball
joint:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> We understand that completely, but is not part of the question.
>
> The tires wear because the struts or the shocks are worn, allowing the tires
> to bounce in a harmonic pattern that results in cupping along the edges of
> the tires.
>
> I can't ever remember seeing a strut fall apart to the point that the
> suspension suffered a catastrophic failure of the type you are talking
> about. The strut has significant structural components to hold it together
> even if it fails to the point that the tires bounce and wear out unevenly.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 05:43 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
I've seen them fall apart, maybe as part of an incomplete accident
repair, but they hold the wheel on just the same as the Libby's ball
joint:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> We understand that completely, but is not part of the question.
>
> The tires wear because the struts or the shocks are worn, allowing the tires
> to bounce in a harmonic pattern that results in cupping along the edges of
> the tires.
>
> I can't ever remember seeing a strut fall apart to the point that the
> suspension suffered a catastrophic failure of the type you are talking
> about. The strut has significant structural components to hold it together
> even if it fails to the point that the tires bounce and wear out unevenly.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2005 05:43 PM

Re: OT - Struts
 
I've seen them fall apart, maybe as part of an incomplete accident
repair, but they hold the wheel on just the same as the Libby's ball
joint:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...tos-319372.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> We understand that completely, but is not part of the question.
>
> The tires wear because the struts or the shocks are worn, allowing the tires
> to bounce in a harmonic pattern that results in cupping along the edges of
> the tires.
>
> I can't ever remember seeing a strut fall apart to the point that the
> suspension suffered a catastrophic failure of the type you are talking
> about. The strut has significant structural components to hold it together
> even if it fails to the point that the tires bounce and wear out unevenly.



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