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sm3gurpal 08-15-2003 05:51 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
> I don't think a bank would care. You gave him a check and he cashed it, which
> is legal as far as they are concerned.
>


I agree with this. There are a lot of places you could report it to,
but let's face it, the local police, banks, FBI, etc., are not going
to care about an amount of only $100.

Your best bet is the US Postal Service Inspector General's office.
This kind of thing is their stock in trade. Inquire at your local
post office how to go about it.

For a small dollar amount (to the USPS, although maybe it's not small
to you,) here is what will most likely happen: They will spend about
10 minutes investigation contacting the bank and getting his SSN,
driver's license #, etc. Then a warrant will be issued. And that's
that; for an amount this small they won't actively pursue an arrest.

But, that info will lurk in government computers forever and ever,
until one day, Mr. Fraud Artist is driving 56mph in a 55mph zone and
gets pulled over, and the arrest warrant comes up, and it's off to
jail he goes. At that point he will either have to pay restitution or
serve it off in jail time or community service.

None of which guarantees that you will ever see your money again, but
at least there's a chance, and it will make you feel better knowing
that karma is waiting to pounce on him.

\Bo\ Mathews 08-17-2003 09:24 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
This is a case of mail fraud. Here's what you do:

Do some research. If he's done it to you, he's done it to someone else.
Google him or dejanews him - find EVERY forum he has been in. Posy with
HIS FULL NAME and E_MAIL account. Someone will know more, and you can
make a list of people he has defrauded.

THEN, do a mass e-mail to every one. Get names, dates, addresses, etc.
Then, set a date and get EVERYONE to go to their post office taht day.
Make a mail fraud statement, and give the other people's names (all need
to do this) as other people he has defrauded.

The postal inspectors should take care of the rest. Doesn't hurt for
them to hear from you every couple of weeks.

Oh yeah - call him and let him know you are doing this AFTER you have
done it!

"Bo"



TJim wrote:
>
> OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty popular
> Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
> will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I have
> tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
> "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent). Where
> do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
> I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> pi$$es me off!
> Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> OK, I'm done...
> :)
> TJim


Robin Alcala 11-23-2003 12:03 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
so how did this get resolved?

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

popular
> Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
> will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I

have
> tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
> "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

Where
> do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
> I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> pi$$es me off!
> Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> OK, I'm done...
> :)
> TJim
>
>




Robin Alcala 11-23-2003 12:03 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
so how did this get resolved?

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

popular
> Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
> will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I

have
> tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
> "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

Where
> do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
> I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> pi$$es me off!
> Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> OK, I'm done...
> :)
> TJim
>
>




Robin Alcala 11-23-2003 12:03 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
so how did this get resolved?

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

popular
> Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
> will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I

have
> tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
> "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

Where
> do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
> I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> pi$$es me off!
> Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> OK, I'm done...
> :)
> TJim
>
>




TJim 11-23-2003 02:01 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
It's not yet resolved. After doing some research, I have been in touch with
several people who have had similar experiences with the individual (one
case involved several thousand dollars!) and have been gathering
information from various sources. (I now know quite a bit about this guy.)
I am seriously considering mail fraud charges. It's been quite a while, but
I'm finishing up getting my ducks in a row.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Robin Alcala" <dilla@ctelcom.net> wrote in message
news:vs1q3dn6jsded8@corp.supernews.com...
> so how did this get resolved?
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> > OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

> popular
> > Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check

and
> > will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I

> have
> > tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm

thinking,
> > "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> > permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> > So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When

I
> > get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> > right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

> Where
> > do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm

afraid
> > I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go

from
> > here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> > pi$$es me off!
> > Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> > OK, I'm done...
> > :)
> > TJim
> >
> >

>
>




TJim 11-23-2003 02:01 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
It's not yet resolved. After doing some research, I have been in touch with
several people who have had similar experiences with the individual (one
case involved several thousand dollars!) and have been gathering
information from various sources. (I now know quite a bit about this guy.)
I am seriously considering mail fraud charges. It's been quite a while, but
I'm finishing up getting my ducks in a row.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Robin Alcala" <dilla@ctelcom.net> wrote in message
news:vs1q3dn6jsded8@corp.supernews.com...
> so how did this get resolved?
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> > OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

> popular
> > Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check

and
> > will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I

> have
> > tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm

thinking,
> > "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> > permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> > So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When

I
> > get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> > right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

> Where
> > do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm

afraid
> > I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go

from
> > here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> > pi$$es me off!
> > Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> > OK, I'm done...
> > :)
> > TJim
> >
> >

>
>




TJim 11-23-2003 02:01 PM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
It's not yet resolved. After doing some research, I have been in touch with
several people who have had similar experiences with the individual (one
case involved several thousand dollars!) and have been gathering
information from various sources. (I now know quite a bit about this guy.)
I am seriously considering mail fraud charges. It's been quite a while, but
I'm finishing up getting my ducks in a row.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Robin Alcala" <dilla@ctelcom.net> wrote in message
news:vs1q3dn6jsded8@corp.supernews.com...
> so how did this get resolved?
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> > OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

> popular
> > Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check

and
> > will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I

> have
> > tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm

thinking,
> > "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> > permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> > So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When

I
> > get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> > right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

> Where
> > do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm

afraid
> > I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go

from
> > here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> > pi$$es me off!
> > Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> > OK, I'm done...
> > :)
> > TJim
> >
> >

>
>




Kevin Sperle 11-24-2003 11:36 AM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
keep after him, don't let him get away with it.

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:W4SdnSuM6byLmVyiRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> It's not yet resolved. After doing some research, I have been in touch

with
> several people who have had similar experiences with the individual (one
> case involved several thousand dollars!) and have been gathering
> information from various sources. (I now know quite a bit about this

guy.)
> I am seriously considering mail fraud charges. It's been quite a while,

but
> I'm finishing up getting my ducks in a row.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
>
> "Robin Alcala" <dilla@ctelcom.net> wrote in message
> news:vs1q3dn6jsded8@corp.supernews.com...
> > so how did this get resolved?
> >
> > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> > > OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

> > popular
> > > Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check

> and
> > > will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks,

I
> > have
> > > tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm

> thinking,
> > > "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> > > permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> > > So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to.

When
> I
> > > get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on

it,
> > > right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

> > Where
> > > do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm

> afraid
> > > I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go

> from
> > > here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It

just
> > > pi$$es me off!
> > > Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> > > OK, I'm done...
> > > :)
> > > TJim
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Kevin Sperle 11-24-2003 11:36 AM

Re: (OT) screwed?
 
keep after him, don't let him get away with it.

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:W4SdnSuM6byLmVyiRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> It's not yet resolved. After doing some research, I have been in touch

with
> several people who have had similar experiences with the individual (one
> case involved several thousand dollars!) and have been gathering
> information from various sources. (I now know quite a bit about this

guy.)
> I am seriously considering mail fraud charges. It's been quite a while,

but
> I'm finishing up getting my ducks in a row.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
>
> "Robin Alcala" <dilla@ctelcom.net> wrote in message
> news:vs1q3dn6jsded8@corp.supernews.com...
> > so how did this get resolved?
> >
> > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:09mcnenEB_7_EKeiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> > > OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty

> > popular
> > > Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check

> and
> > > will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks,

I
> > have
> > > tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm

> thinking,
> > > "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> > > permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> > > So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to.

When
> I
> > > get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on

it,
> > > right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).

> > Where
> > > do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm

> afraid
> > > I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go

> from
> > > here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It

just
> > > pi$$es me off!
> > > Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> > > OK, I'm done...
> > > :)
> > > TJim
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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