OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets flammed big
time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the US
Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that promote or
disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of a
commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion and
encourage them to vote one way or the other.

I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the groups
charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related, FS or
FA.

Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real Life
vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and probably
rated PG 13 <g>)

http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov


Dean
http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even if
the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
contests at some point anyway.

"Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
flammed big
> time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the
US
> Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
promote or
> disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of
a
> commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
and
> encourage them to vote one way or the other.
>
> I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
> nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
groups
> charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related,
FS or
> FA.
>
> Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
Life
> vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
> discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
probably
> rated PG 13 <g>)
>
> http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
>
>
> Dean
> http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even if
the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
contests at some point anyway.

"Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
flammed big
> time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the
US
> Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
promote or
> disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of
a
> commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
and
> encourage them to vote one way or the other.
>
> I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
> nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
groups
> charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related,
FS or
> FA.
>
> Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
Life
> vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
> discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
probably
> rated PG 13 <g>)
>
> http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
>
>
> Dean
> http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even if
the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
contests at some point anyway.

"Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
flammed big
> time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the
US
> Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
promote or
> disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of
a
> commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
and
> encourage them to vote one way or the other.
>
> I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
> nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
groups
> charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related,
FS or
> FA.
>
> Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
Life
> vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
> discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
probably
> rated PG 13 <g>)
>
> http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
>
>
> Dean
> http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
posts are some local area's political crap.

It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
even don't give a crap...

Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
innocent of that either.

I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
to find them.....

It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin S wrote:
>
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>
> "Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
> news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> > Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
> flammed big
> > time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the
> US
> > Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
> promote or
> > disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of
> a
> > commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
> and
> > encourage them to vote one way or the other.
> >
> > I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
> > nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
> groups
> > charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related,
> FS or
> > FA.
> >
> > Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
> Life
> > vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
> > discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
> probably
> > rated PG 13 <g>)
> >
> > http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
> >
> >
> > Dean
> > http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
posts are some local area's political crap.

It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
even don't give a crap...

Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
innocent of that either.

I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
to find them.....

It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin S wrote:
>
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>
> "Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
> news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> > Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
> flammed big
> > time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the
> US
> > Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
> promote or
> > disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of
> a
> > commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
> and
> > encourage them to vote one way or the other.
> >
> > I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
> > nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
> groups
> > charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related,
> FS or
> > FA.
> >
> > Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
> Life
> > vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
> > discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
> probably
> > rated PG 13 <g>)
> >
> > http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
> >
> >
> > Dean
> > http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
posts are some local area's political crap.

It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
even don't give a crap...

Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
innocent of that either.

I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
to find them.....

It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin S wrote:
>
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>
> "Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
> news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> > Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
> flammed big
> > time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in the
> US
> > Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
> promote or
> > disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form of
> a
> > commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
> and
> > encourage them to vote one way or the other.
> >
> > I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They are
> > nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
> groups
> > charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep related,
> FS or
> > FA.
> >
> > Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
> Life
> > vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part about
> > discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
> probably
> > rated PG 13 <g>)
> >
> > http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
> >
> >
> > Dean
> > http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Ya, I'm on alt.autos.toyota and I'm wondering if anyone will actually post a
non-OT message soon.


"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even
if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>
> "Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
> news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> > Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
> flammed big
> > time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in
the
> US
> > Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
> promote or
> > disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form
of
> a
> > commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
> and
> > encourage them to vote one way or the other.
> >
> > I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They
are
> > nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
> groups
> > charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep
related,
> FS or
> > FA.
> >
> > Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
> Life
> > vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part
about
> > discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
> probably
> > rated PG 13 <g>)
> >
> > http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
> >
> >
> > Dean
> > http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep
>
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Ya, I'm on alt.autos.toyota and I'm wondering if anyone will actually post a
non-OT message soon.


"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even
if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>
> "Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
> news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> > Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
> flammed big
> > time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in
the
> US
> > Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
> promote or
> > disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form
of
> a
> > commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
> and
> > encourage them to vote one way or the other.
> >
> > I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They
are
> > nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
> groups
> > charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep
related,
> FS or
> > FA.
> >
> > Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
> Life
> > vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part
about
> > discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
> probably
> > rated PG 13 <g>)
> >
> > http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
> >
> >
> > Dean
> > http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep
>
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Ya, I'm on alt.autos.toyota and I'm wondering if anyone will actually post a
non-OT message soon.


"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even
if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>
> "Dean" <Jeep_TJ.removethis@hotmail.dot.com > wrote in message
> news:95jqi014kvqdjg0n0cu72em0s40mr34kit@4ax.com...
> > Yah know, when someone posts a commercial post here, the poster gets
> flammed big
> > time, even if it is on topic and related to Jeeps. So now we are in
the
> US
> > Presidential election season and we've got people posting things that
> promote or
> > disrespect one candidate or the other. Aren't those posts just of form
of
> a
> > commercial post? I mean they are trying to change the readers opinion
> and
> > encourage them to vote one way or the other.
> >
> > I propose a complete moratorium on Presidential political posts. They
are
> > nothing but commercial posts selling a candidate, which is barred by the
> groups
> > charter. If you want to sell something just make sure it is Jeep
related,
> FS or
> > FA.
> >
> > Now in the vein of keeping things fun and to help those confused by Real
> Life
> > vs. the Internet check this out. Made me laugh, especially the part
about
> > discussing Politics on line <lol>. (Warning it is 21 megabytes and
> probably
> > rated PG 13 <g>)
> >
> > http://files.redvsblue.com/NYC2/RvB_NYC2.mov
> >
> >
> > Dean
> > http://www.monogramsinc.com/jeep
>
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Hi Mike,
That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
stink!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
> posts are some local area's political crap.
>
> It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
> starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
> posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
> seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
> even don't give a crap...
>
> Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
> Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
> group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
> innocent of that either.
>
> I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
> to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
> to find them.....
>
> It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Hi Mike,
That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
stink!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
> posts are some local area's political crap.
>
> It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
> starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
> posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
> seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
> even don't give a crap...
>
> Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
> Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
> group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
> innocent of that either.
>
> I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
> to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
> to find them.....
>
> It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Hi Mike,
That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
stink!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
> posts are some local area's political crap.
>
> It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
> starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
> posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
> seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
> even don't give a crap...
>
> Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
> Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
> group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
> innocent of that either.
>
> I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
> to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
> to find them.....
>
> It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

That is still no excuse. This is not the proper place for posting ANY kind
of political message. This is supposed to be a Jeep group.

There are PLENTY of other political newsgroups for political posts.

Tom

"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even
if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

That is still no excuse. This is not the proper place for posting ANY kind
of political message. This is supposed to be a Jeep group.

There are PLENTY of other political newsgroups for political posts.

Tom

"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even
if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

That is still no excuse. This is not the proper place for posting ANY kind
of political message. This is supposed to be a Jeep group.

There are PLENTY of other political newsgroups for political posts.

Tom

"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!
>
> Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them. Even
if
> the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> contests at some point anyway.
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

>Hi Mike,
> That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
> But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
>stink!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Bill do you honestly think anyone in this group gives a damn about the trolls?
That's what they do, look for suckers to hook. If you take their bait your just
being a sucker. This is a place to talk about Jeeps. A better tactic is to
report them to their ISP.

I've seen you go after spammers and commercial posters. Some how I get the
sense that you really enjoy getting them shut down. Take that same enthusiasm
and shut the political posters down too. There are places for political talk,
this just isn't one of them.

Dean

>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
>> posts are some local area's political crap.
>>
>> It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
>> starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
>> posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
>> seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
>> even don't give a crap...
>>
>> Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
>> Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
>> group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
>> innocent of that either.
>>
>> I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
>> to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
>> to find them.....
>>
>> It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

>Hi Mike,
> That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
> But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
>stink!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Bill do you honestly think anyone in this group gives a damn about the trolls?
That's what they do, look for suckers to hook. If you take their bait your just
being a sucker. This is a place to talk about Jeeps. A better tactic is to
report them to their ISP.

I've seen you go after spammers and commercial posters. Some how I get the
sense that you really enjoy getting them shut down. Take that same enthusiasm
and shut the political posters down too. There are places for political talk,
this just isn't one of them.

Dean

>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
>> posts are some local area's political crap.
>>
>> It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
>> starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
>> posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
>> seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
>> even don't give a crap...
>>
>> Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
>> Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
>> group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
>> innocent of that either.
>>
>> I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
>> to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
>> to find them.....
>>
>> It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

>Hi Mike,
> That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
> But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
>stink!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Bill do you honestly think anyone in this group gives a damn about the trolls?
That's what they do, look for suckers to hook. If you take their bait your just
being a sucker. This is a place to talk about Jeeps. A better tactic is to
report them to their ISP.

I've seen you go after spammers and commercial posters. Some how I get the
sense that you really enjoy getting them shut down. Take that same enthusiasm
and shut the political posters down too. There are places for political talk,
this just isn't one of them.

Dean

>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
>> posts are some local area's political crap.
>>
>> It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
>> starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
>> posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
>> seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
>> even don't give a crap...
>>
>> Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
>> Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
>> group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
>> innocent of that either.
>>
>> I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
>> to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
>> to find them.....
>>
>> It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

No Bill, you are mistaken. Politics violate the group's charter.

This is a Jeep newsgroup. Please take your politics somewhere
appropriate.

If I have to start filtering a group after all these years, I will
certainly have to rethink if this is the place for me or if it is time
to move on.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
> But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
> stink!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
> > posts are some local area's political crap.
> >
> > It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
> > starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
> > posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
> > seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
> > even don't give a crap...
> >
> > Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
> > Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
> > group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
> > innocent of that either.
> >
> > I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
> > to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
> > to find them.....
> >
> > It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

No Bill, you are mistaken. Politics violate the group's charter.

This is a Jeep newsgroup. Please take your politics somewhere
appropriate.

If I have to start filtering a group after all these years, I will
certainly have to rethink if this is the place for me or if it is time
to move on.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
> But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
> stink!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
> > posts are some local area's political crap.
> >
> > It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
> > starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
> > posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
> > seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
> > even don't give a crap...
> >
> > Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
> > Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
> > group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
> > innocent of that either.
> >
> > I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
> > to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
> > to find them.....
> >
> > It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

No Bill, you are mistaken. Politics violate the group's charter.

This is a Jeep newsgroup. Please take your politics somewhere
appropriate.

If I have to start filtering a group after all these years, I will
certainly have to rethink if this is the place for me or if it is time
to move on.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> That's why we in Netscape have, Message, Ignore Thread.
> But, if a troll posts a lie, I'm going to be on them like flies on
> stink!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > It just really gets to be a drag when you log on and 100 out of 110 new
> > posts are some local area's political crap.
> >
> > It 'is' off topic for the group and against the Charter no matter who
> > starts it. Moderated or not, this group does have a Charter that is
> > posted and talked about, so ISP's actually will take complaints
> > seriously, but that is a pain when 3/4 of the regular posters or lurkers
> > even don't give a crap...
> >
> > Folks need to use some self control when they get obviously trolled.
> > Too many folks here swallow it hook line and sinker and then disrupt the
> > group with hundreds if not thousands of posts. I can't say I am
> > innocent of that either.
> >
> > I am gone bush running Saturday for 10 days so hopefully can come back
> > to catching up on Jeep posts and not 1000's of BS posts to wade through
> > to find them.....
> >
> > It is a RAMJ+W run with folks from here joining us.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

I couldn't agree more. I didn't say I condoned it, or liked it. I just
said good luck in avoiding it. Reporting posters to their ISP's may have
some sucess but I doubt it make make a big difference in the long run. I
could be wrong.... seems there's been less filth around here lately. Maybe
that is a result of Mike and Bill and others reporting a lot of stuff to the
ISP's.

I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
political opossites of me..... At least it happens after the election, when
there won't be much to argue about anymore (unless it's another close vote).

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:poadnQZibOI8D7PcRVn-qQ@gbronline.com...
> That is still no excuse. This is not the proper place for posting ANY kind
> of political message. This is supposed to be a Jeep group.
>
> There are PLENTY of other political newsgroups for political posts.
>
> Tom
>
> "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> > This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
> CLOSE!
> >
> > Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them.
Even
> if
> > the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> > with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> > contests at some point anyway.
> >
>
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

I couldn't agree more. I didn't say I condoned it, or liked it. I just
said good luck in avoiding it. Reporting posters to their ISP's may have
some sucess but I doubt it make make a big difference in the long run. I
could be wrong.... seems there's been less filth around here lately. Maybe
that is a result of Mike and Bill and others reporting a lot of stuff to the
ISP's.

I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
political opossites of me..... At least it happens after the election, when
there won't be much to argue about anymore (unless it's another close vote).

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:poadnQZibOI8D7PcRVn-qQ@gbronline.com...
> That is still no excuse. This is not the proper place for posting ANY kind
> of political message. This is supposed to be a Jeep group.
>
> There are PLENTY of other political newsgroups for political posts.
>
> Tom
>
> "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> > This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
> CLOSE!
> >
> > Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them.
Even
> if
> > the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> > with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> > contests at some point anyway.
> >
>
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

I couldn't agree more. I didn't say I condoned it, or liked it. I just
said good luck in avoiding it. Reporting posters to their ISP's may have
some sucess but I doubt it make make a big difference in the long run. I
could be wrong.... seems there's been less filth around here lately. Maybe
that is a result of Mike and Bill and others reporting a lot of stuff to the
ISP's.

I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
political opossites of me..... At least it happens after the election, when
there won't be much to argue about anymore (unless it's another close vote).

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:poadnQZibOI8D7PcRVn-qQ@gbronline.com...
> That is still no excuse. This is not the proper place for posting ANY kind
> of political message. This is supposed to be a Jeep group.
>
> There are PLENTY of other political newsgroups for political posts.
>
> Tom
>
> "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TStXc.1584$Yf1.65451@news.uswest.net...
> > This group isn't NEARLY as bad as some other groups I read. NOT EVEN
> CLOSE!
> >
> > Until this is a moderated group there's no chance of avoiding them.
Even
> if
> > the usuals around here don't post them, someone else will SPAM the group
> > with them. I just skip em' all, they all pretty much turn into pissing
> > contests at some point anyway.
> >
>
>

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Your family's like everyone else's. If you're not liberal when
you're young, you have no heart, but if you're not conservative when
you're old then you have no brain!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin S wrote:
>
> I couldn't agree more. I didn't say I condoned it, or liked it. I just
> said good luck in avoiding it. Reporting posters to their ISP's may have
> some sucess but I doubt it make make a big difference in the long run. I
> could be wrong.... seems there's been less filth around here lately. Maybe
> that is a result of Mike and Bill and others reporting a lot of stuff to the
> ISP's.
>
> I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
> political opossites of me..... At least it happens after the election, when
> there won't be much to argue about anymore (unless it's another close vote).

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Your family's like everyone else's. If you're not liberal when
you're young, you have no heart, but if you're not conservative when
you're old then you have no brain!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin S wrote:
>
> I couldn't agree more. I didn't say I condoned it, or liked it. I just
> said good luck in avoiding it. Reporting posters to their ISP's may have
> some sucess but I doubt it make make a big difference in the long run. I
> could be wrong.... seems there's been less filth around here lately. Maybe
> that is a result of Mike and Bill and others reporting a lot of stuff to the
> ISP's.
>
> I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
> political opossites of me..... At least it happens after the election, when
> there won't be much to argue about anymore (unless it's another close vote).

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

Your family's like everyone else's. If you're not liberal when
you're young, you have no heart, but if you're not conservative when
you're old then you have no brain!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin S wrote:
>
> I couldn't agree more. I didn't say I condoned it, or liked it. I just
> said good luck in avoiding it. Reporting posters to their ISP's may have
> some sucess but I doubt it make make a big difference in the long run. I
> could be wrong.... seems there's been less filth around here lately. Maybe
> that is a result of Mike and Bill and others reporting a lot of stuff to the
> ISP's.
>
> I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
> political opossites of me..... At least it happens after the election, when
> there won't be much to argue about anymore (unless it's another close vote).

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:34 -0600, "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
>political opossites of me.....

Oh, I love family gatherings because mine is split 50/50 and each side is as
rabid as Bill about their point of view. I've been know to walk into a room and
toss out something sure to piss off one side or the other. They will get all
over me like "flies on stink" and then the other side will come to my defense.
Those guys will go on for hours. I guess I'm just a troll with my family. <lol>

I find it much more easy to incite the conservatives in my family than the
liberals. Maybe it is as Bill suggests that the young are liberals and the
older ones are conservatives. And by having had that change of heart they some
how feel the need to convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking. But the
youngest adult of the group is a Rush Limbaugh kool-aid drinker, <g> so that
only goes so far.

Too bad we're not having a get together before the election, I could catch me a
mess o' suckers. <rotfl>

Just trolling
Dean

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:34 -0600, "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
>political opossites of me.....

Oh, I love family gatherings because mine is split 50/50 and each side is as
rabid as Bill about their point of view. I've been know to walk into a room and
toss out something sure to piss off one side or the other. They will get all
over me like "flies on stink" and then the other side will come to my defense.
Those guys will go on for hours. I guess I'm just a troll with my family. <lol>

I find it much more easy to incite the conservatives in my family than the
liberals. Maybe it is as Bill suggests that the young are liberals and the
older ones are conservatives. And by having had that change of heart they some
how feel the need to convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking. But the
youngest adult of the group is a Rush Limbaugh kool-aid drinker, <g> so that
only goes so far.

Too bad we're not having a get together before the election, I could catch me a
mess o' suckers. <rotfl>

Just trolling
Dean

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:34 -0600, "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
>political opossites of me.....

Oh, I love family gatherings because mine is split 50/50 and each side is as
rabid as Bill about their point of view. I've been know to walk into a room and
toss out something sure to piss off one side or the other. They will get all
over me like "flies on stink" and then the other side will come to my defense.
Those guys will go on for hours. I guess I'm just a troll with my family. <lol>

I find it much more easy to incite the conservatives in my family than the
liberals. Maybe it is as Bill suggests that the young are liberals and the
older ones are conservatives. And by having had that change of heart they some
how feel the need to convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking. But the
youngest adult of the group is a Rush Limbaugh kool-aid drinker, <g> so that
only goes so far.

Too bad we're not having a get together before the election, I could catch me a
mess o' suckers. <rotfl>

Just trolling
Dean

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

"And by having had that change of heart they some how feel the need to
convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking."
It's called "right" wing for a reason...

Dean wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:34 -0600, "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
>>political opossites of me.....
>
>
> Oh, I love family gatherings because mine is split 50/50 and each side is as
> rabid as Bill about their point of view. I've been know to walk into a room and
> toss out something sure to piss off one side or the other. They will get all
> over me like "flies on stink" and then the other side will come to my defense.
> Those guys will go on for hours. I guess I'm just a troll with my family. <lol>
>
> I find it much more easy to incite the conservatives in my family than the
> liberals. Maybe it is as Bill suggests that the young are liberals and the
> older ones are conservatives. And by having had that change of heart they some
> how feel the need to convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking. But the
> youngest adult of the group is a Rush Limbaugh kool-aid drinker, <g> so that
> only goes so far.
>
> Too bad we're not having a get together before the election, I could catch me a
> mess o' suckers. <rotfl>
>
> Just trolling
> Dean

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

"And by having had that change of heart they some how feel the need to
convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking."
It's called "right" wing for a reason...

Dean wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:34 -0600, "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
>>political opossites of me.....
>
>
> Oh, I love family gatherings because mine is split 50/50 and each side is as
> rabid as Bill about their point of view. I've been know to walk into a room and
> toss out something sure to piss off one side or the other. They will get all
> over me like "flies on stink" and then the other side will come to my defense.
> Those guys will go on for hours. I guess I'm just a troll with my family. <lol>
>
> I find it much more easy to incite the conservatives in my family than the
> liberals. Maybe it is as Bill suggests that the young are liberals and the
> older ones are conservatives. And by having had that change of heart they some
> how feel the need to convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking. But the
> youngest adult of the group is a Rush Limbaugh kool-aid drinker, <g> so that
> only goes so far.
>
> Too bad we're not having a get together before the election, I could catch me a
> mess o' suckers. <rotfl>
>
> Just trolling
> Dean

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

"And by having had that change of heart they some how feel the need to
convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking."
It's called "right" wing for a reason...

Dean wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:34 -0600, "Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm already dreading a family reunion with most of my family being complete
>>political opossites of me.....
>
>
> Oh, I love family gatherings because mine is split 50/50 and each side is as
> rabid as Bill about their point of view. I've been know to walk into a room and
> toss out something sure to piss off one side or the other. They will get all
> over me like "flies on stink" and then the other side will come to my defense.
> Those guys will go on for hours. I guess I'm just a troll with my family. <lol>
>
> I find it much more easy to incite the conservatives in my family than the
> liberals. Maybe it is as Bill suggests that the young are liberals and the
> older ones are conservatives. And by having had that change of heart they some
> how feel the need to convert everyone to the "correct" way of thinking. But the
> youngest adult of the group is a Rush Limbaugh kool-aid drinker, <g> so that
> only goes so far.
>
> Too bad we're not having a get together before the election, I could catch me a
> mess o' suckers. <rotfl>
>
> Just trolling
> Dean

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

They're both douchebags.

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

They're both douchebags.

Re: OT Please No more US Presidential Politics
 

They're both douchebags.