Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

Been a long time since I was on a bike. Used to do motocross in my younger
days. After that, street riding. I've been lucky enough to never have a
bad experience with another auto driver. Now, my own worst enemy (ME),
that's another story :-).

A couple of bikers at my work tell me about what some cars do to bikers
going in-between lanes. Some try to block them from doing it, some have
even opened the car door in front of them, others (like me) pull to one side
of the lane to allow them a better path.


I'd love to have a bike again but where to ride, that's the question.


Billo



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4047FD9A.3EB87433@cox.net...
> I can tell you've never ridden in Southern California. It use to be
> irritate me the motorcyclist passing me between cars, that trick use to
> be against the law, now that's not, they're all gone. There are old
> biker, and there are bold bikers, but there are no old, bold bikers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> GzrGlide wrote:
> >
> > '02 HD Electra Glide Classic, avg about 50mpg at an average speed of 65
> > mph. City riding is around 35 mpg. Similar numbers on my '01.
> >
> > I don't know what your riding experience is, but I strongly suggest
> > taking a MSF experienced riders course.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Mike
> > 98 TJ SE
> > 02 FLHTCi
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > >My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I
need
> > >more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
> > >
> > >I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the
BMW to
> > >finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here,
not
> > >any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on
a
> > >particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want
a
> > >Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be
a
> > >willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if
the
> > >bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> > >broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones)
as
> > >well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in
the
> > >crotch rockets.
> > >
> > >My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the
Harley
> > >type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the
35+
> > >mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
differential
> > >in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

Been a long time since I was on a bike. Used to do motocross in my younger
days. After that, street riding. I've been lucky enough to never have a
bad experience with another auto driver. Now, my own worst enemy (ME),
that's another story :-).

A couple of bikers at my work tell me about what some cars do to bikers
going in-between lanes. Some try to block them from doing it, some have
even opened the car door in front of them, others (like me) pull to one side
of the lane to allow them a better path.


I'd love to have a bike again but where to ride, that's the question.


Billo



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4047FD9A.3EB87433@cox.net...
> I can tell you've never ridden in Southern California. It use to be
> irritate me the motorcyclist passing me between cars, that trick use to
> be against the law, now that's not, they're all gone. There are old
> biker, and there are bold bikers, but there are no old, bold bikers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> GzrGlide wrote:
> >
> > '02 HD Electra Glide Classic, avg about 50mpg at an average speed of 65
> > mph. City riding is around 35 mpg. Similar numbers on my '01.
> >
> > I don't know what your riding experience is, but I strongly suggest
> > taking a MSF experienced riders course.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Mike
> > 98 TJ SE
> > 02 FLHTCi
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > >My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I
need
> > >more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
> > >
> > >I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the
BMW to
> > >finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here,
not
> > >any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on
a
> > >particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want
a
> > >Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be
a
> > >willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if
the
> > >bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> > >broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones)
as
> > >well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in
the
> > >crotch rockets.
> > >
> > >My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the
Harley
> > >type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the
35+
> > >mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
differential
> > >in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

You don't have a link to that picture do ya?! Sounds like an action movie
scene!


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4047E571.602A4B57@cox.net...
> Nope, it doesn't work that way at least for me, when I forced to
> lay her down it's because I've already lost control and going down all I
> can do is get on top of it to ride it out. The last time a full sized
> Chrysler wagon pulled out in front of me from a side road, then stopped,
> and I came out one lane of the four lane highway, where upon this
> f**kin' wagon came out one more lane and died, it was too, too, late for
> me do anything but prepare for a crash as my bike went down and I got on
> top of it. I then realized I was headed for the rear side glass about
> head high, so I timed it to jump as I hit to put my chest into the glass
> and to my amazement I jumped completely over the wagon and was running
> full speed away on the other side. Cleaned my shin as usual, but was OK.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
avoid
> > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
maneuver
> > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > --
> > - Jeff
> > - ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

You don't have a link to that picture do ya?! Sounds like an action movie
scene!


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4047E571.602A4B57@cox.net...
> Nope, it doesn't work that way at least for me, when I forced to
> lay her down it's because I've already lost control and going down all I
> can do is get on top of it to ride it out. The last time a full sized
> Chrysler wagon pulled out in front of me from a side road, then stopped,
> and I came out one lane of the four lane highway, where upon this
> f**kin' wagon came out one more lane and died, it was too, too, late for
> me do anything but prepare for a crash as my bike went down and I got on
> top of it. I then realized I was headed for the rear side glass about
> head high, so I timed it to jump as I hit to put my chest into the glass
> and to my amazement I jumped completely over the wagon and was running
> full speed away on the other side. Cleaned my shin as usual, but was OK.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
avoid
> > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
maneuver
> > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > --
> > - Jeff
> > - ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

You don't have a link to that picture do ya?! Sounds like an action movie
scene!


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4047E571.602A4B57@cox.net...
> Nope, it doesn't work that way at least for me, when I forced to
> lay her down it's because I've already lost control and going down all I
> can do is get on top of it to ride it out. The last time a full sized
> Chrysler wagon pulled out in front of me from a side road, then stopped,
> and I came out one lane of the four lane highway, where upon this
> f**kin' wagon came out one more lane and died, it was too, too, late for
> me do anything but prepare for a crash as my bike went down and I got on
> top of it. I then realized I was headed for the rear side glass about
> head high, so I timed it to jump as I hit to put my chest into the glass
> and to my amazement I jumped completely over the wagon and was running
> full speed away on the other side. Cleaned my shin as usual, but was OK.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
avoid
> > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
maneuver
> > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > --
> > - Jeff
> > - ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

-jc wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > St. in Toronto Canada!
>
> Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and avoid
> the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and maneuver
> and avoid the crash all together.
>
> --


You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?

When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.

The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
him with my foot on his door.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

-jc wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > St. in Toronto Canada!
>
> Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and avoid
> the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and maneuver
> and avoid the crash all together.
>
> --


You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?

When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.

The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
him with my foot on his door.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

-jc wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > St. in Toronto Canada!
>
> Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and avoid
> the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and maneuver
> and avoid the crash all together.
>
> --


You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?

When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.

The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
him with my foot on his door.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104fe5edfh17e5a@corp.supernews.com...
> My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I
need
> more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
>
> I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the BMW
to
> finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here, not
> any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on a
> particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want a
> Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be a
> willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if the
> bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones) as
> well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in the
> crotch rockets.
>
> My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the Harley
> type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the 35+
> mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
differential
> in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
>

You will not save much in gas. These types of bikes are not all that fuel
efficient.

Communting on a bike is like playing russian roulette. You are going to
lose, it's just a matter of time.

If you want to ride a street bike, do yourself (and your family) a favor and
keep it for riding on pleasant weekend afternoons, far from the maddening
commuter crowd. ...and be careful out there. The life you save WILL be
your own.

-Fred W
One time owner of BMW K100. Sold. Now have only dirt bikes.

Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
 

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104fe5edfh17e5a@corp.supernews.com...
> My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I
need
> more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
>
> I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the BMW
to
> finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here, not
> any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on a
> particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want a
> Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be a
> willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if the
> bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones) as
> well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in the
> crotch rockets.
>
> My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the Harley
> type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the 35+
> mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
differential
> in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
>

You will not save much in gas. These types of bikes are not all that fuel
efficient.

Communting on a bike is like playing russian roulette. You are going to
lose, it's just a matter of time.

If you want to ride a street bike, do yourself (and your family) a favor and
keep it for riding on pleasant weekend afternoons, far from the maddening
commuter crowd. ...and be careful out there. The life you save WILL be
your own.

-Fred W
One time owner of BMW K100. Sold. Now have only dirt bikes.