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Fletcher 07-15-2003 03:25 AM

OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so I
dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them rotated.
But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.
From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline storage
is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the next
guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also hear
that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for up to
5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how long it
can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a difference?
The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the rest
is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.

http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel.../storage.shtml





Billy Tolcher 07-15-2003 10:43 AM

OT: Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
What are you going to do with 150 gallons of gasoline in a72 hr survival
situation? Mow the grass 200 times? :)

Just wonderin...



"Fletcher" <no@mail.com> wrote in message
news:AQNQa.8958$Lc2.4208@fe09.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
> families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
> around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so I
> dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them rotated.
> But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.
> From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline

storage
> is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the next
> guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also hear
> that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for up

to
> 5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how long

it
> can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a

difference?
> The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the

rest
> is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.
>
>

http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel...ne/storage.sht
ml
>
>
>
>




Tony 07-15-2003 11:51 AM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
I'd also check your local fire codes. Around our town, you can't have
more than 10 gallons stored.

Now, if you have 100 gallons, and something happens and you burn down
your house/barn/etc , I would check that your insurance will cover you
and that there isn't a clause that says since you didn't follow the
fire codes, you're not covered.

Better to find out now than after you have a BBQ

Tony




On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:55:02 -0700, James Gemmill
<gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Aside from stability of the gas, be sure you store it safely. That
>much gas could blow up a small town.
>
>On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:25:07 -0600, "Fletcher" <no@mail.com> wrote:
>
>>I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
>>families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
>>around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so I
>>dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them rotated.
>>But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.
>>From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline storage
>>is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the next
>>guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also hear
>>that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for up to
>>5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how long it
>>can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a difference?
>>The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the rest
>>is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.
>>
>>http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel.../storage.shtml
>>
>>
>>



RichH 07-15-2003 11:57 AM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
What you are looking for is gasoline stabilizer that contains
Polysorbate-80 (same stuff thats used to stabilize mayonnaise).

Go to either BoatUS.com or Westmarine.com ... used all the time for
marine fuel storage. "STABIL" is one of the products that I use. Last
dosage in 55gals lasted 3 years. You will get some gum and varnish
formation if left in small orfices of carburators, etc. .... better to
flush such devices with isopropyl alcohol and store 'dry'. Stabilizers
will prevent the gasoline from 'souring' but will sometimes not prevent
gum formation. If you intend to store gasoline, be sure that the
gasoline is FRESH to begin with - only buy it from a high volume source,
not a mom & pop source that is probably already soured.

The addition of stabilizer will increase the octane rating.

Fletcher wrote:
> I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
> families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
> around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so I
> dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them rotated.
> But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.
> From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline storage
> is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the next
> guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also hear
> that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for up to
> 5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how long it
> can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a difference?
> The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the rest
> is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.
>
> http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel.../storage.shtml
>
>
>
>



Lon Stowell 07-15-2003 01:02 PM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
Fletcher wrote:

> I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
> families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
> around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so I
> dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them rotated.
> But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.
> From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline storage
> is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the next
> guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also hear
> that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for up to
> 5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how long it
> can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a difference?
> The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the rest
> is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.
>
> http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel.../storage.shtml


Kinda depends on where you live. If you use a regular
farm style fuel tank, and can get gas delivered, run
your stuff from the tank and you probably won't even
need any stabilizers since the fuel will be refreshed
on every delivery.


RichH 07-15-2003 03:12 PM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
If he needs all that fuel for survival and NEEDS it, then the insurance
companies will simply call the situation: "an act of war", "a
non-covered natural disaster", etc. or some other weasel words to that
effect. .... and not be covered by your policy - if in fact the
insurance company still exists. <G>

Tony wrote:
> I'd also check your local fire codes. Around our town, you can't have
> more than 10 gallons stored.
>
> Now, if you have 100 gallons, and something happens and you burn down
> your house/barn/etc , I would check that your insurance will cover you
> and that there isn't a clause that says since you didn't follow the
> fire codes, you're not covered.
>
> Better to find out now than after you have a BBQ
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:55:02 -0700, James Gemmill
> <gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Aside from stability of the gas, be sure you store it safely. That
>>much gas could blow up a small town.
>>
>>On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:25:07 -0600, "Fletcher" <no@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
>>>families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
>>>around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so I
>>>dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them rotated.
>>>But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.

>>
>>>From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline storage

>>
>>>is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the next
>>>guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also hear
>>>that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for up to
>>>5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how long it
>>>can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a difference?
>>>The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the rest
>>>is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.
>>>
>>>http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel.../storage.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>



Earle Horton 07-15-2003 03:33 PM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
If you think like this then you would be far better off with firearms than
gasoline. In a survival situation, firearms can be used to obtain gasoline,
food too...

Earle

"RichH" <RhmpL33@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:3F145202.8090405@NOSPAM.net...
> If he needs all that fuel for survival and NEEDS it, then the insurance
> companies will simply call the situation: "an act of war", "a
> non-covered natural disaster", etc. or some other weasel words to that
> effect. .... and not be covered by your policy - if in fact the
> insurance company still exists. <G>
>
> Tony wrote:
> > I'd also check your local fire codes. Around our town, you can't have
> > more than 10 gallons stored.
> >
> > Now, if you have 100 gallons, and something happens and you burn down
> > your house/barn/etc , I would check that your insurance will cover you
> > and that there isn't a clause that says since you didn't follow the
> > fire codes, you're not covered.
> >
> > Better to find out now than after you have a BBQ
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:55:02 -0700, James Gemmill
> > <gemmilljim@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Aside from stability of the gas, be sure you store it safely. That
> >>much gas could blow up a small town.
> >>
> >>On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:25:07 -0600, "Fletcher" <no@mail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am interested in storing 50 -100 gallons of gasoline as part of my
> >>>families 72-hour survival kit. I usually keep four 5 gallon containers
> >>>around that I use for the lawn mower or whatever and every month or so

I
> >>>dump one in my CJ and get another fresh container so I keep them

rotated.
> >>>But now I am thinking about storing more and keeping it more long term.
> >>
> >>>From google searches I am seeing conflicting comments about gasoline

storage
> >>
> >>>is safe for 3 months and up to 15 months using a stabilizer. And the

next
> >>>guy says he stores gas for 2+ years without any stabilizer. I also

hear
> >>>that the military using something that will help stabilize the gas for

up to
> >>>5 years. Does anyone know the "right" way to store gasoline and how

long it
> >>>can truly be stored for? Does a different octane content make a

difference?
> >>>The link below is the most official info I have been able to find, the

rest
> >>>is not backed data or has the taste of advertising.
> >>>

>
>>>http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuel...soline/storage.

shtml
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2003 03:58 PM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
Hi Earle,
Yup, that's why I have two thousand rounds per weapon left form my
Y2K preparedness.
My parents used to store gas for the farm equipment, on a gravity
feed, couldn't keep a lock on it. Had a bunch of well feed German
Shepherds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> If you think like this then you would be far better off with firearms than
> gasoline. In a survival situation, firearms can be used to obtain gasoline,
> food too...
>
> Earle


Matt Macchiarolo 07-15-2003 05:57 PM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage
 
In article <3F145C77.E18C508@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> writes:

> Yup, that's why I have two thousand rounds per weapon left form my
>Y2K preparedness.


Why does that not surprise me. ;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





RichH 07-15-2003 07:19 PM

Re: OT Long Term Gasoline Storage ROTFL
 
ROTFL
Good reply !!!!!!

Lon Stowell wrote:
> Oh come now. Those farm gas tanks were put there for the
> benefit of fleet-footed teenagers too impoverished to be
> able to actually buy gasoline for their rides. This was
> such a tradition that there were even unofficial rules and
> folklore about removing the shot from shotgun shells and
> filling them with rock salt or bacon strips being the most
> lethal weapon legal for dealing with slow-footed and noisy
> teens. The watermelon fields were also strategically placed
> as training ground for the pre-teens to sharpen their skills
> before graduating to gasoline theft.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Earle,
>> Yup, that's why I have two thousand rounds per weapon left form my
>>Y2K preparedness.
>> My parents used to store gas for the farm equipment, on a gravity
>>feed, couldn't keep a lock on it. Had a bunch of well feed German
>>Shepherds.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If you think like this then you would be far better off with firearms than
>>>gasoline. In a survival situation, firearms can be used to obtain gasoline,
>>>food too...
>>>
>>>Earle

>>

>




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