Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

LOL!

"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey!!! Get out of here with that on-topic --------!
>
> <BSEG!>
>
> -jeff

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

LOL!

"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey!!! Get out of here with that on-topic --------!
>
> <BSEG!>
>
> -jeff

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

Agreed, and I would further go on to say one of the best things Bush has
done was to reverse the last-minute "environmental" executive orders of
Clinton's last few weeks in office, many of which (if memory serves) were
intended to re-classify a whole heap of Federal land as wilderness areas and
as such off-limits to motorized vehicles.

The DOI seems to be improving the quality and quantity of personnel in the
national park/national forest system but there seems to be a long way to go.
I'm interested even more now that I just bought a cabin adjacent to the
Huron National Forest in northern Michigan's lower peninsula.


"SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cpqom40usv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Ther's nothng unusual about most cabinet members resigning after a
> President's first term. For our special interest, off-roading, and as a
> Westerner, I'm glad to see Gail Norton is staying on. She's done a great
job
> in keeping a balance re: our trails, and has kept the environmentalist
> crazies at bay.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10s1e3o48mqp914@corp.supernews.com...
> > It was lost on me as well. In this case, the new boss is the same as the
> > old
> > boss. It is common for Cabinet members to retire after the first term.
> > Sure,
> > some will stay, but some always leave. Not sometimes, always. There has
> > never been a President who upon relection did not loose some of his
> > cabinet
> > members and other high ranking officials in his administration.
Normally,
> > the President moves them out, but there are always a few that take the
> > opportunity to move on.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:41C0A50D.78FD56A4@cox.net...
> >> I see my analogy was lost on you, as usual.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> >
> >> > But your model doesn't fit...a new boss unfortunately hasn't taken
> > charge.
> >> >
> >> > You may believe what you want. It's hard for me to believe that you
are
> > as
> >> > naive and easily swayed by propaganda. On second thought, it's not
that
> > hard
> >> > to believe.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

Agreed, and I would further go on to say one of the best things Bush has
done was to reverse the last-minute "environmental" executive orders of
Clinton's last few weeks in office, many of which (if memory serves) were
intended to re-classify a whole heap of Federal land as wilderness areas and
as such off-limits to motorized vehicles.

The DOI seems to be improving the quality and quantity of personnel in the
national park/national forest system but there seems to be a long way to go.
I'm interested even more now that I just bought a cabin adjacent to the
Huron National Forest in northern Michigan's lower peninsula.


"SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cpqom40usv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Ther's nothng unusual about most cabinet members resigning after a
> President's first term. For our special interest, off-roading, and as a
> Westerner, I'm glad to see Gail Norton is staying on. She's done a great
job
> in keeping a balance re: our trails, and has kept the environmentalist
> crazies at bay.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10s1e3o48mqp914@corp.supernews.com...
> > It was lost on me as well. In this case, the new boss is the same as the
> > old
> > boss. It is common for Cabinet members to retire after the first term.
> > Sure,
> > some will stay, but some always leave. Not sometimes, always. There has
> > never been a President who upon relection did not loose some of his
> > cabinet
> > members and other high ranking officials in his administration.
Normally,
> > the President moves them out, but there are always a few that take the
> > opportunity to move on.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:41C0A50D.78FD56A4@cox.net...
> >> I see my analogy was lost on you, as usual.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> >
> >> > But your model doesn't fit...a new boss unfortunately hasn't taken
> > charge.
> >> >
> >> > You may believe what you want. It's hard for me to believe that you
are
> > as
> >> > naive and easily swayed by propaganda. On second thought, it's not
that
> > hard
> >> > to believe.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

Agreed, and I would further go on to say one of the best things Bush has
done was to reverse the last-minute "environmental" executive orders of
Clinton's last few weeks in office, many of which (if memory serves) were
intended to re-classify a whole heap of Federal land as wilderness areas and
as such off-limits to motorized vehicles.

The DOI seems to be improving the quality and quantity of personnel in the
national park/national forest system but there seems to be a long way to go.
I'm interested even more now that I just bought a cabin adjacent to the
Huron National Forest in northern Michigan's lower peninsula.


"SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cpqom40usv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Ther's nothng unusual about most cabinet members resigning after a
> President's first term. For our special interest, off-roading, and as a
> Westerner, I'm glad to see Gail Norton is staying on. She's done a great
job
> in keeping a balance re: our trails, and has kept the environmentalist
> crazies at bay.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10s1e3o48mqp914@corp.supernews.com...
> > It was lost on me as well. In this case, the new boss is the same as the
> > old
> > boss. It is common for Cabinet members to retire after the first term.
> > Sure,
> > some will stay, but some always leave. Not sometimes, always. There has
> > never been a President who upon relection did not loose some of his
> > cabinet
> > members and other high ranking officials in his administration.
Normally,
> > the President moves them out, but there are always a few that take the
> > opportunity to move on.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:41C0A50D.78FD56A4@cox.net...
> >> I see my analogy was lost on you, as usual.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> >
> >> > But your model doesn't fit...a new boss unfortunately hasn't taken
> > charge.
> >> >
> >> > You may believe what you want. It's hard for me to believe that you
are
> > as
> >> > naive and easily swayed by propaganda. On second thought, it's not
that
> > hard
> >> > to believe.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:FfqdnQWQcr5sN1zcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Agreed, and I would further go on to say one of the best things Bush has
> done was to reverse the last-minute "environmental" executive orders of
> Clinton's last few weeks in office, many of which (if memory serves) were
> intended to re-classify a whole heap of Federal land as wilderness areas
> and
> as such off-limits to motorized vehicles.

The 11th hour Clinton "Roadless Plan" would have locked up around 60 million
acres of USFS and BLM land, creating an new land classification that's
simply de-facto wilderness. The law says only Congress can declare an area
wilderness, because it effectively means it will forever be a
cost/liability, with no means of paying it's own way through timber sales,
etc. What was worse was that many of these 60 million acres had lots of
motorized trails which the green clowns don't recognize as "roads". (If
grandma's Volvo can;t be drivin on it, it's not a road!)

The green goons thought they'd pulled a fast one and I congratulate Gail
Norton for her actions in bringing some sanity to this issue.

> The DOI seems to be improving the quality and quantity of personnel in the
> national park/national forest system but there seems to be a long way to
> go.
> I'm interested even more now that I just bought a cabin adjacent to the
> Huron National Forest in northern Michigan's lower peninsula.

Ther's a big green war going on out West regarding private land holdings
near "raodless" and wilderness areas. They're trying to legally snatch a lot
of these parcels using eminent domain laws, etc. and we'll see how this
plays out over the next four years. The Rubico remains open partly because
there's private land right in the middle of the El Dorado NF and they're
guaranteed road access, which, of course, is the Rubicon. One gree radical
bunch is trying anew ploy to close the trail, saying that since there's a
helipad on the property, that constitutes access. Watch that space!

> "SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:cpqom40usv@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> Ther's nothng unusual about most cabinet members resigning after a
>> President's first term. For our special interest, off-roading, and as a
>> Westerner, I'm glad to see Gail Norton is staying on. She's done a great
> job
>> in keeping a balance re: our trails, and has kept the environmentalist
>> crazies at bay.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:10s1e3o48mqp914@corp.supernews.com...
>> > It was lost on me as well. In this case, the new boss is the same as
>> > the
>> > old
>> > boss. It is common for Cabinet members to retire after the first term.
>> > Sure,
>> > some will stay, but some always leave. Not sometimes, always. There has
>> > never been a President who upon relection did not loose some of his
>> > cabinet
>> > members and other high ranking officials in his administration.
> Normally,
>> > the President moves them out, but there are always a few that take the
>> > opportunity to move on.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41C0A50D.78FD56A4@cox.net...
>> >> I see my analogy was lost on you, as usual.
>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > But your model doesn't fit...a new boss unfortunately hasn't taken
>> > charge.
>> >> >
>> >> > You may believe what you want. It's hard for me to believe that you
> are
>> > as
>> >> > naive and easily swayed by propaganda. On second thought, it's not
> that
>> > hard
>> >> > to believe.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:FfqdnQWQcr5sN1zcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Agreed, and I would further go on to say one of the best things Bush has
> done was to reverse the last-minute "environmental" executive orders of
> Clinton's last few weeks in office, many of which (if memory serves) were
> intended to re-classify a whole heap of Federal land as wilderness areas
> and
> as such off-limits to motorized vehicles.

The 11th hour Clinton "Roadless Plan" would have locked up around 60 million
acres of USFS and BLM land, creating an new land classification that's
simply de-facto wilderness. The law says only Congress can declare an area
wilderness, because it effectively means it will forever be a
cost/liability, with no means of paying it's own way through timber sales,
etc. What was worse was that many of these 60 million acres had lots of
motorized trails which the green clowns don't recognize as "roads". (If
grandma's Volvo can;t be drivin on it, it's not a road!)

The green goons thought they'd pulled a fast one and I congratulate Gail
Norton for her actions in bringing some sanity to this issue.

> The DOI seems to be improving the quality and quantity of personnel in the
> national park/national forest system but there seems to be a long way to
> go.
> I'm interested even more now that I just bought a cabin adjacent to the
> Huron National Forest in northern Michigan's lower peninsula.

Ther's a big green war going on out West regarding private land holdings
near "raodless" and wilderness areas. They're trying to legally snatch a lot
of these parcels using eminent domain laws, etc. and we'll see how this
plays out over the next four years. The Rubico remains open partly because
there's private land right in the middle of the El Dorado NF and they're
guaranteed road access, which, of course, is the Rubicon. One gree radical
bunch is trying anew ploy to close the trail, saying that since there's a
helipad on the property, that constitutes access. Watch that space!

> "SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:cpqom40usv@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> Ther's nothng unusual about most cabinet members resigning after a
>> President's first term. For our special interest, off-roading, and as a
>> Westerner, I'm glad to see Gail Norton is staying on. She's done a great
> job
>> in keeping a balance re: our trails, and has kept the environmentalist
>> crazies at bay.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:10s1e3o48mqp914@corp.supernews.com...
>> > It was lost on me as well. In this case, the new boss is the same as
>> > the
>> > old
>> > boss. It is common for Cabinet members to retire after the first term.
>> > Sure,
>> > some will stay, but some always leave. Not sometimes, always. There has
>> > never been a President who upon relection did not loose some of his
>> > cabinet
>> > members and other high ranking officials in his administration.
> Normally,
>> > the President moves them out, but there are always a few that take the
>> > opportunity to move on.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41C0A50D.78FD56A4@cox.net...
>> >> I see my analogy was lost on you, as usual.
>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > But your model doesn't fit...a new boss unfortunately hasn't taken
>> > charge.
>> >> >
>> >> > You may believe what you want. It's hard for me to believe that you
> are
>> > as
>> >> > naive and easily swayed by propaganda. On second thought, it's not
> that
>> > hard
>> >> > to believe.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: OT Less we forget, our American heroes.
 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:FfqdnQWQcr5sN1zcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> Agreed, and I would further go on to say one of the best things Bush has
> done was to reverse the last-minute "environmental" executive orders of
> Clinton's last few weeks in office, many of which (if memory serves) were
> intended to re-classify a whole heap of Federal land as wilderness areas
> and
> as such off-limits to motorized vehicles.

The 11th hour Clinton "Roadless Plan" would have locked up around 60 million
acres of USFS and BLM land, creating an new land classification that's
simply de-facto wilderness. The law says only Congress can declare an area
wilderness, because it effectively means it will forever be a
cost/liability, with no means of paying it's own way through timber sales,
etc. What was worse was that many of these 60 million acres had lots of
motorized trails which the green clowns don't recognize as "roads". (If
grandma's Volvo can;t be drivin on it, it's not a road!)

The green goons thought they'd pulled a fast one and I congratulate Gail
Norton for her actions in bringing some sanity to this issue.

> The DOI seems to be improving the quality and quantity of personnel in the
> national park/national forest system but there seems to be a long way to
> go.
> I'm interested even more now that I just bought a cabin adjacent to the
> Huron National Forest in northern Michigan's lower peninsula.

Ther's a big green war going on out West regarding private land holdings
near "raodless" and wilderness areas. They're trying to legally snatch a lot
of these parcels using eminent domain laws, etc. and we'll see how this
plays out over the next four years. The Rubico remains open partly because
there's private land right in the middle of the El Dorado NF and they're
guaranteed road access, which, of course, is the Rubicon. One gree radical
bunch is trying anew ploy to close the trail, saying that since there's a
helipad on the property, that constitutes access. Watch that space!

> "SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:cpqom40usv@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> Ther's nothng unusual about most cabinet members resigning after a
>> President's first term. For our special interest, off-roading, and as a
>> Westerner, I'm glad to see Gail Norton is staying on. She's done a great
> job
>> in keeping a balance re: our trails, and has kept the environmentalist
>> crazies at bay.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:10s1e3o48mqp914@corp.supernews.com...
>> > It was lost on me as well. In this case, the new boss is the same as
>> > the
>> > old
>> > boss. It is common for Cabinet members to retire after the first term.
>> > Sure,
>> > some will stay, but some always leave. Not sometimes, always. There has
>> > never been a President who upon relection did not loose some of his
>> > cabinet
>> > members and other high ranking officials in his administration.
> Normally,
>> > the President moves them out, but there are always a few that take the
>> > opportunity to move on.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41C0A50D.78FD56A4@cox.net...
>> >> I see my analogy was lost on you, as usual.
>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > But your model doesn't fit...a new boss unfortunately hasn't taken
>> > charge.
>> >> >
>> >> > You may believe what you want. It's hard for me to believe that you
> are
>> > as
>> >> > naive and easily swayed by propaganda. On second thought, it's not
> that
>> > hard
>> >> > to believe.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>