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One of my wife's friends works in the DEA's Detroit office. She recently sent
her a message about some goings-on over there from someone who's seen it
firsthand. Just thought I'd share.

<<Our Special Agent in Charge here in Detroit just returned from Iraq. He had
very interesting things to say. He said there is only one tv station there, a
govt. station. He was there moments after the UN bombing. He said that
basically the UN was unprepared security-wise and that their "wall" was
probably 20 feet from the building. A cement truck pulled up with a ton of
exposives and that was it. There is a big investigation regarding the 17 or so
security people inside the UN compound, as some were suspected to be on
Saddam's side. He said the Iraqi police and Saddam and his sons filmed
everything. People were beaten and tortured for trivial things (such as owning
a satellite dish). One video he saw was Saddam and his two sons as they
watched behind a glass wall at one of his colonels whom he suspected was not
loyal to him. They strapped him down, poured broth on him and let very hungry
doberman's eat this man alive....all on tape. He said that 90% of the Iraqi
people are glad the Americans are there. He believe that they have Saddam in
60 days or less. It seems that Saddam travels around in the trunk of a car and
has about 5 look-alikes. Anyway, our boss stressed the importance of being
Americans, democracy and having freedom that the Iraqi people have not had in
so long.>>

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Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

" He said that 90% of the Iraqi people are glad the Americans are there."

I would have to question this guys credibility. 90%? I must be reading the
wrong media (around the world). Maybe he ment 10% and 90% would like us to
leave so they can keep thier oil.

Curt

Liberal media?? Never heard that, have you...

"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Gf46b.417$w41.411@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> " He said that 90% of the Iraqi people are glad the Americans are there."
>
> I would have to question this guys credibility. 90%? I must be reading
the
> wrong media (around the world). Maybe he ment 10% and 90% would like us
to
> leave so they can keep thier oil.
>
> Curt
>
>

Don't tell me, let me guess. You're a bleeding heart liberal who's
still pissed about their inability to use a standard voting machine.
Whom can't stand the fact that our President is making all the right
decisions. Oh God, I can't wait to vote your ass out of Kalifornia. But
I can hear you now saying our ballet is unfair, look it has: "Vote for
only one candidate for Governor" on each punch card page, and worst you
won't be able to find a place to punch past the first entry, Arnold:
http://www.----------.com/ballot03.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

curt wrote:
>
> " He said that 90% of the Iraqi people are glad the Americans are there."
>
> I would have to question this guys credibility. 90%? I must be reading the
> wrong media (around the world). Maybe he ment 10% and 90% would like us to
> leave so they can keep thier oil.
>
> Curt

> " He said that 90% of the Iraqi people are glad the Americans are there."
>
> I would have to question this guys credibility. 90%? I must be reading the
> wrong media (around the world). Maybe he ment 10% and 90% would like us to
> leave so they can keep thier oil.
>

This is totally off topic, but I didn't start it and it's an
interesting topic so I will gladly respond.

I for one really do not understand why we are being so soft with the
Iraqis. I keep seeing comparisons in the media with how badly the
Iraqi occupation is going compared to the German occupation after
World War II. Well, the reason is, we showed the Germans we meant
business. One particular example is that at the war's close we
firebombed Dresden, an undefended city of no meaningful military
value. The bombing was so extensive it killed nearly 300,000 people.
To put that in perspective, that's more than double the amount of
people killed in the atomic bomb attacks on Nagasaki and Hiroshima
combined.

Speaking of the Germans, they were also pretty good at quashing
dissent in occupied territories, (and I'm not talking about the SS
operations and concentration camps.) Any time a German soldier was
killed by an underground partisan, the Germans lined up ten local
civilians at random and executed them on the spot.

This may sound inhumane, but which is worse, lancing the boil or
letting it fester? If we don't start getting serious we are going to
come home from Iraq in defeat, which will only reinforce the mindset
of the terrorists and make it open season on American civilians
everywhere. Personally, I prefer 10 dead Iraqis over 1 dead American
any day.

You have to break a few eggs to make the omlette. The terrorists and
underground fighters in Iraq should be glad I'm not in charge. I'd
start by giving everyone in Tikrit 30 minutes notice to get out, then
I'd firebomb the place off the map. Then massively disproportional
civilian reprisals for every future scratch suffered by US forces.
I'd bet $100 to $1 that would calm the place down real darn quick.

The downside is that this would make the "Arab Street" angry with us,
the Europeans would no longer be our faithful allies, and liberals
would start calling Bush a war criminal. (Which is, of course,
totally unlike the situation that exists at the current moment.)

I also don't understand why we don't seize the Iraqi oil fields and
sell the oil wherever we please to pay for the billion dollar per
month occupation cost. But that's another subject and I do believe I
have gotten my 2 cents worth for today.

Jeez - you advocate killing 300,000 innocent people so you can appear tough
?
My next door neighbour was in Dresden - her feet burnt and the wheels of the
pram she was pushing caught fire from the incendiaries ; its very nasty and
was a low point of the war.

I'm sorry but your attitude is a disgrace to the soldiers in Iraq from both
our countries who are fighting extremism and being courteous in victory. A
large part of this operation was to get rid of a dictator who had so little
regard for human life (both his own people and the Kurds) that he didn't
stop at killing 300,000 innocent people. In short soldiers are risking their
lives to save the world from assholes like you.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309051331.686d0d2b@posting.google.c om...
: > " He said that 90% of the Iraqi people are glad the Americans are
there."
: >
: > I would have to question this guys credibility. 90%? I must be reading
the
: > wrong media (around the world). Maybe he ment 10% and 90% would like us
to
: > leave so they can keep thier oil.
: >
:
: This is totally off topic, but I didn't start it and it's an
: interesting topic so I will gladly respond.
:
: I for one really do not understand why we are being so soft with the
: Iraqis. I keep seeing comparisons in the media with how badly the
: Iraqi occupation is going compared to the German occupation after
: World War II. Well, the reason is, we showed the Germans we meant
: business. One particular example is that at the war's close we
: firebombed Dresden, an undefended city of no meaningful military
: value. The bombing was so extensive it killed nearly 300,000 people.
: To put that in perspective, that's more than double the amount of
: people killed in the atomic bomb attacks on Nagasaki and Hiroshima
: combined.
:
: Speaking of the Germans, they were also pretty good at quashing
: dissent in occupied territories, (and I'm not talking about the SS
: operations and concentration camps.) Any time a German soldier was
: killed by an underground partisan, the Germans lined up ten local
: civilians at random and executed them on the spot.
:
: This may sound inhumane, but which is worse, lancing the boil or
: letting it fester? If we don't start getting serious we are going to
: come home from Iraq in defeat, which will only reinforce the mindset
: of the terrorists and make it open season on American civilians
: everywhere. Personally, I prefer 10 dead Iraqis over 1 dead American
: any day.
:
: You have to break a few eggs to make the omlette. The terrorists and
: underground fighters in Iraq should be glad I'm not in charge. I'd
: start by giving everyone in Tikrit 30 minutes notice to get out, then
: I'd firebomb the place off the map. Then massively disproportional
: civilian reprisals for every future scratch suffered by US forces.
: I'd bet $100 to $1 that would calm the place down real darn quick.
:
: The downside is that this would make the "Arab Street" angry with us,
: the Europeans would no longer be our faithful allies, and liberals
: would start calling Bush a war criminal. (Which is, of course,
: totally unlike the situation that exists at the current moment.)
:
: I also don't understand why we don't seize the Iraqi oil fields and
: sell the oil wherever we please to pay for the billion dollar per
: month occupation cost. But that's another subject and I do believe I
: have gotten my 2 cents worth for today.