Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

Mexican Credit Card???

Won't that just make my alignment worse?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FAC0792.FC3F33AA@cox.net...
> Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I
got
> > some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I
can't
> > get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then
the
> > oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
> >
> > It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs
to
> > be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain
the
> > alignment.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@cox.net...
> > > Hi Earle,
> > > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is
a
> > > Japanese car.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe
this
> > is
> > > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> > haven't
> > > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that
struts
> > can be
> > > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of
those.
> > I
> > > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as
'dead'.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A
chunk
> > of
> > > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part.
The
> > > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> > master
> > > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or
less....
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing
apart
> > from
> > > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a
spring
> > > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > > springs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut
rear
> > > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house,
and
> > they
> > > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the
current
> > > > struts
> > > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There
is a
> > > > cylinder
> > > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> > pulled
> > > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out
from
> > the
> > > > top of
> > > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk
remaining
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in
the
> > way.
> > > > I am
> > > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the
suspension
> > > > alignment
> > > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the
strut
> > > > over
> > > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going,
how
> > can
> > > > I
> > > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill
a
> > small
> > > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get
the
> > > > struts
> > > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or
do I
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts
must
> > be
> > > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then
reassembled.
> > If I
> > > > must
> > > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is
as
> > easy
> > > > as
> > > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment
issues
> > to
> > > > deal
> > > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

Mexican Credit Card???

Won't that just make my alignment worse?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FAC0792.FC3F33AA@cox.net...
> Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I
got
> > some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I
can't
> > get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then
the
> > oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
> >
> > It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs
to
> > be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain
the
> > alignment.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@cox.net...
> > > Hi Earle,
> > > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is
a
> > > Japanese car.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe
this
> > is
> > > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> > haven't
> > > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that
struts
> > can be
> > > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of
those.
> > I
> > > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as
'dead'.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A
chunk
> > of
> > > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part.
The
> > > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> > master
> > > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or
less....
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing
apart
> > from
> > > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a
spring
> > > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > > springs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut
rear
> > > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house,
and
> > they
> > > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the
current
> > > > struts
> > > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There
is a
> > > > cylinder
> > > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> > pulled
> > > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out
from
> > the
> > > > top of
> > > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk
remaining
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in
the
> > way.
> > > > I am
> > > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the
suspension
> > > > alignment
> > > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the
strut
> > > > over
> > > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going,
how
> > can
> > > > I
> > > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill
a
> > small
> > > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get
the
> > > > struts
> > > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or
do I
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts
must
> > be
> > > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then
reassembled.
> > If I
> > > > must
> > > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is
as
> > easy
> > > > as
> > > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment
issues
> > to
> > > > deal
> > > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

Damn Jeff, weren't you ever a teenager? It's five foot section of garden
hose, used to siphon.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Mexican Credit Card???
>
> Won't that just make my alignment worse?

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

Damn Jeff, weren't you ever a teenager? It's five foot section of garden
hose, used to siphon.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Mexican Credit Card???
>
> Won't that just make my alignment worse?

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

Damn Jeff, weren't you ever a teenager? It's five foot section of garden
hose, used to siphon.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Mexican Credit Card???
>
> Won't that just make my alignment worse?

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

I figured it out. I just took the entire strut off and poured the contents
out. The new strut cartdriges dropped right in, and the alignment didn't
change at all. I was going about this project from the wrong direction, and
that was the source of my troubles.




"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqnjo6bshgvb64@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current struts
> are not cartridge type units.
>
> I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
cylinder
> with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the top
of
> the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
the
> bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way. I
am
> resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
alignment
> parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut over
> and pour the oil out.
>
> Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can I
> get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the struts
> back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
to
> remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
must
> remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
as
> turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
deal
> with later that I was hoping to avoid.
>

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

I figured it out. I just took the entire strut off and poured the contents
out. The new strut cartdriges dropped right in, and the alignment didn't
change at all. I was going about this project from the wrong direction, and
that was the source of my troubles.




"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqnjo6bshgvb64@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current struts
> are not cartridge type units.
>
> I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
cylinder
> with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the top
of
> the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
the
> bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way. I
am
> resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
alignment
> parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut over
> and pour the oil out.
>
> Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can I
> get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the struts
> back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
to
> remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
must
> remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
as
> turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
deal
> with later that I was hoping to avoid.
>

Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
 

I figured it out. I just took the entire strut off and poured the contents
out. The new strut cartdriges dropped right in, and the alignment didn't
change at all. I was going about this project from the wrong direction, and
that was the source of my troubles.




"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqnjo6bshgvb64@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current struts
> are not cartridge type units.
>
> I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
cylinder
> with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the top
of
> the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
the
> bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way. I
am
> resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
alignment
> parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut over
> and pour the oil out.
>
> Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can I
> get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the struts
> back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
to
> remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
must
> remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
as
> turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
deal
> with later that I was hoping to avoid.
>