Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

LOL, must be nice to be rich!


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
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Bought a Land Rover Discovery 2 4.0 v8 today, and should take collection
next week.
Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
without a Real Chassis.
Big axles and hub means its rated for 7800 lb towing, but IMHO I would want
a longer wheelbase
for pulling that weight.
It doesn't drive like a truck at all - feels like a limo with its 18"
wheels, and electric everything
but it is for towing not offroading, so that's ok.

http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg

Still keeping the Wrangler - this gives me transport and time to fix the
Waggy.

Dave Milne, Scotland

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

Hee hee hee :-)
[Actually, it isn't a Real Chassis, as it is a box section and welded not
rivetted]

Dave

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>
> > Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> > without a Real Chassis.
>
> You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
>
> >
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >
>
> Looks Great!
>
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

Hee hee hee :-)
[Actually, it isn't a Real Chassis, as it is a box section and welded not
rivetted]

Dave

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>
> > Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> > without a Real Chassis.
>
> You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
>
> >
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >
>
> Looks Great!
>
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

Hee hee hee :-)
[Actually, it isn't a Real Chassis, as it is a box section and welded not
rivetted]

Dave

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>
> > Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> > without a Real Chassis.
>
> You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
>
> >
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >
>
> Looks Great!
>
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

Hee hee hee :-)
[Actually, it isn't a Real Chassis, as it is a box section and welded not
rivetted]

Dave

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>
> > Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> > without a Real Chassis.
>
> You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
>
> >
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> > http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >
>
> Looks Great!
>
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

The Discovery 2 (99 - 04) was priced at £22,237 - £37,038 which I think puts
it firmly in the Grand Cherokee territory.
However, they depreciate like crazy - the one I bought I paid £6750 for a 99
model with a genuine 52,000 miles and full service history and is the top of
the range model. So someone has lost nearly 60,000 bucks in 7 years. The
anaemic TD5 with its 5 cylinder 2.5 litre turbo is a lot more - the ex 1961
213 ci Buick engine, now bored out, is pretty thirsty and drives the price
down.

A 99 Grand Cherokee 4.7 v8 costs the same and is similarly specced, but I
think you get more car for your money with the LR ( gear driven transfer
case, bigger hubs, 7800lb towing capacity and 1300 lb payload).

Parts are plentiful and cheaper than Jeeps, and the general mechanic's
knowledge available for LRs is very good. Very much like Jeeps in the US,
there are plenty of DIY owners with clubs to support them. Similarly to ZJs
in the US, they are bought by yummy mummys who take them to the mall. Like
this one - no towbar and never been offroad. To be honest, it is hampered as
an offroader unlike the Series 1 which was very capable. While it has full
time 4x4 and sophisticated electronic features like Hill Descent Control
coupled into the ABS, the rear overhang has increased and the air suspension
at the back will make it difficult to lift a lot. The 18" wheels shod with
lowish profile Pirelli Scorpion sports car tread tyres are going to be
testing the traction control in a wet carpark and will get damaged in a
heartbeat by the nearest rock. Which makes the seriously capable 4x4 system
probably a bit of a waste of time for offroading (but great in the snow).
Even if that were not the case, you would be crazy to take this offroad -
its just too pretty.

It is the thing the Greenies love to hate - Chelsea Tractors (named after
the area in London where the upmarket urban green wellie brigade made them
popular).

Dave (3 trucks, no cars) Milne


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:46aca$45cddb64$422afc51$8336@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, are Land Rovers more reasonable priced to purchase and maintain,
over
> there, than Jeeps?
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >
> >> Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> >> without a Real Chassis.
> >
> > You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
> >
> >>
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >>
> >
> > Looks Great!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

The Discovery 2 (99 - 04) was priced at £22,237 - £37,038 which I think puts
it firmly in the Grand Cherokee territory.
However, they depreciate like crazy - the one I bought I paid £6750 for a 99
model with a genuine 52,000 miles and full service history and is the top of
the range model. So someone has lost nearly 60,000 bucks in 7 years. The
anaemic TD5 with its 5 cylinder 2.5 litre turbo is a lot more - the ex 1961
213 ci Buick engine, now bored out, is pretty thirsty and drives the price
down.

A 99 Grand Cherokee 4.7 v8 costs the same and is similarly specced, but I
think you get more car for your money with the LR ( gear driven transfer
case, bigger hubs, 7800lb towing capacity and 1300 lb payload).

Parts are plentiful and cheaper than Jeeps, and the general mechanic's
knowledge available for LRs is very good. Very much like Jeeps in the US,
there are plenty of DIY owners with clubs to support them. Similarly to ZJs
in the US, they are bought by yummy mummys who take them to the mall. Like
this one - no towbar and never been offroad. To be honest, it is hampered as
an offroader unlike the Series 1 which was very capable. While it has full
time 4x4 and sophisticated electronic features like Hill Descent Control
coupled into the ABS, the rear overhang has increased and the air suspension
at the back will make it difficult to lift a lot. The 18" wheels shod with
lowish profile Pirelli Scorpion sports car tread tyres are going to be
testing the traction control in a wet carpark and will get damaged in a
heartbeat by the nearest rock. Which makes the seriously capable 4x4 system
probably a bit of a waste of time for offroading (but great in the snow).
Even if that were not the case, you would be crazy to take this offroad -
its just too pretty.

It is the thing the Greenies love to hate - Chelsea Tractors (named after
the area in London where the upmarket urban green wellie brigade made them
popular).

Dave (3 trucks, no cars) Milne


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:46aca$45cddb64$422afc51$8336@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, are Land Rovers more reasonable priced to purchase and maintain,
over
> there, than Jeeps?
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >
> >> Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> >> without a Real Chassis.
> >
> > You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
> >
> >>
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >>
> >
> > Looks Great!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

The Discovery 2 (99 - 04) was priced at £22,237 - £37,038 which I think puts
it firmly in the Grand Cherokee territory.
However, they depreciate like crazy - the one I bought I paid £6750 for a 99
model with a genuine 52,000 miles and full service history and is the top of
the range model. So someone has lost nearly 60,000 bucks in 7 years. The
anaemic TD5 with its 5 cylinder 2.5 litre turbo is a lot more - the ex 1961
213 ci Buick engine, now bored out, is pretty thirsty and drives the price
down.

A 99 Grand Cherokee 4.7 v8 costs the same and is similarly specced, but I
think you get more car for your money with the LR ( gear driven transfer
case, bigger hubs, 7800lb towing capacity and 1300 lb payload).

Parts are plentiful and cheaper than Jeeps, and the general mechanic's
knowledge available for LRs is very good. Very much like Jeeps in the US,
there are plenty of DIY owners with clubs to support them. Similarly to ZJs
in the US, they are bought by yummy mummys who take them to the mall. Like
this one - no towbar and never been offroad. To be honest, it is hampered as
an offroader unlike the Series 1 which was very capable. While it has full
time 4x4 and sophisticated electronic features like Hill Descent Control
coupled into the ABS, the rear overhang has increased and the air suspension
at the back will make it difficult to lift a lot. The 18" wheels shod with
lowish profile Pirelli Scorpion sports car tread tyres are going to be
testing the traction control in a wet carpark and will get damaged in a
heartbeat by the nearest rock. Which makes the seriously capable 4x4 system
probably a bit of a waste of time for offroading (but great in the snow).
Even if that were not the case, you would be crazy to take this offroad -
its just too pretty.

It is the thing the Greenies love to hate - Chelsea Tractors (named after
the area in London where the upmarket urban green wellie brigade made them
popular).

Dave (3 trucks, no cars) Milne


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:46aca$45cddb64$422afc51$8336@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, are Land Rovers more reasonable priced to purchase and maintain,
over
> there, than Jeeps?
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >
> >> Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> >> without a Real Chassis.
> >
> > You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
> >
> >>
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >>
> >
> > Looks Great!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

The Discovery 2 (99 - 04) was priced at £22,237 - £37,038 which I think puts
it firmly in the Grand Cherokee territory.
However, they depreciate like crazy - the one I bought I paid £6750 for a 99
model with a genuine 52,000 miles and full service history and is the top of
the range model. So someone has lost nearly 60,000 bucks in 7 years. The
anaemic TD5 with its 5 cylinder 2.5 litre turbo is a lot more - the ex 1961
213 ci Buick engine, now bored out, is pretty thirsty and drives the price
down.

A 99 Grand Cherokee 4.7 v8 costs the same and is similarly specced, but I
think you get more car for your money with the LR ( gear driven transfer
case, bigger hubs, 7800lb towing capacity and 1300 lb payload).

Parts are plentiful and cheaper than Jeeps, and the general mechanic's
knowledge available for LRs is very good. Very much like Jeeps in the US,
there are plenty of DIY owners with clubs to support them. Similarly to ZJs
in the US, they are bought by yummy mummys who take them to the mall. Like
this one - no towbar and never been offroad. To be honest, it is hampered as
an offroader unlike the Series 1 which was very capable. While it has full
time 4x4 and sophisticated electronic features like Hill Descent Control
coupled into the ABS, the rear overhang has increased and the air suspension
at the back will make it difficult to lift a lot. The 18" wheels shod with
lowish profile Pirelli Scorpion sports car tread tyres are going to be
testing the traction control in a wet carpark and will get damaged in a
heartbeat by the nearest rock. Which makes the seriously capable 4x4 system
probably a bit of a waste of time for offroading (but great in the snow).
Even if that were not the case, you would be crazy to take this offroad -
its just too pretty.

It is the thing the Greenies love to hate - Chelsea Tractors (named after
the area in London where the upmarket urban green wellie brigade made them
popular).

Dave (3 trucks, no cars) Milne


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:46aca$45cddb64$422afc51$8336@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, are Land Rovers more reasonable priced to purchase and maintain,
over
> there, than Jeeps?
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ZZCdneKvhvIBRVDYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:LEkzh.270086$Kh7.126523@fe2.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >
> >> Would have gone for a Jeep for preference, but decided I couldn't live
> >> without a Real Chassis.
> >
> > You;'ve been reading too many of Bill H's posts..
> >
> >>
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco2.jpg
> >> http://milne.info/~dave/disco/disco3.jpg
> >>
> >
> > Looks Great!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Defecting to the Dark Side
 

I drive past the LR factory at Solihull on my way back from work :-)

Dave

"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171120127.172469.267100@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Don't know about your world, but here in the Boonies where I am you
> would be forced to Special Order any parts other than an Oil Filter
> and the parts are 3 times the price of comparable Jeep/Chevy/Ford
> parts "IF" you can even get them!
>
> Bruce
>