Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:41:09 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> An after thought, if the original poster, troller, hadn't wanted me
>to bit, s/he wouldn't have sign it "Game on"

Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
"my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
answer that question?

> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>twaldron wrote:
>>
>> I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much like
>> in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
>> didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
>> alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
>> a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
>> but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
>> Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
>> discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
>> seems to be the crux of the matter.
>>
>> Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
>> but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to avoid
>> solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
>> desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

I wasn't aware that he was asking you to believe that his real name was
'Tyler Dirden', if that is the case, I'd have to reconsider. I never saw
any deliberate misrepresentation. I even posted many months ago when
this topic came up, that his alias was from a movie. If it is just a
case of someone using a handle and an assumption on your part, I stand
by my statement.

On the other hand, if it came to pass that his real name wasn't Nathan
Otis I'd have a problem with that, since he specifically stated that it
is his real name. I wouldn't get twisted about it, but I'd certainly
question his credibility in the future.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> That's your opinion, I respect it, but don't agree. The posters you
> mentioned are not asking me to believe them.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much like
>>in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
>>didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
>>alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
>>a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
>>but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
>>Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
>>discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
>>seems to be the crux of the matter.
>>
>>Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
>>but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to avoid
>>solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
>>desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

I wasn't aware that he was asking you to believe that his real name was
'Tyler Dirden', if that is the case, I'd have to reconsider. I never saw
any deliberate misrepresentation. I even posted many months ago when
this topic came up, that his alias was from a movie. If it is just a
case of someone using a handle and an assumption on your part, I stand
by my statement.

On the other hand, if it came to pass that his real name wasn't Nathan
Otis I'd have a problem with that, since he specifically stated that it
is his real name. I wouldn't get twisted about it, but I'd certainly
question his credibility in the future.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> That's your opinion, I respect it, but don't agree. The posters you
> mentioned are not asking me to believe them.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much like
>>in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
>>didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
>>alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
>>a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
>>but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
>>Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
>>discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
>>seems to be the crux of the matter.
>>
>>Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
>>but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to avoid
>>solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
>>desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

I wasn't aware that he was asking you to believe that his real name was
'Tyler Dirden', if that is the case, I'd have to reconsider. I never saw
any deliberate misrepresentation. I even posted many months ago when
this topic came up, that his alias was from a movie. If it is just a
case of someone using a handle and an assumption on your part, I stand
by my statement.

On the other hand, if it came to pass that his real name wasn't Nathan
Otis I'd have a problem with that, since he specifically stated that it
is his real name. I wouldn't get twisted about it, but I'd certainly
question his credibility in the future.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> That's your opinion, I respect it, but don't agree. The posters you
> mentioned are not asking me to believe them.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much like
>>in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
>>didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
>>alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
>>a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
>>but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
>>Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
>>discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
>>seems to be the crux of the matter.
>>
>>Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
>>but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to avoid
>>solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
>>desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Yes, it does bother me I'm the only American here willing to stand
up for their first amendment rights.
Simple, s/he was trolling.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
> answer that question?
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Yes, it does bother me I'm the only American here willing to stand
up for their first amendment rights.
Simple, s/he was trolling.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
> answer that question?
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Yes, it does bother me I'm the only American here willing to stand
up for their first amendment rights.
Simple, s/he was trolling.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
> answer that question?
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On s/he's first post to me s/he says, s/he's with Comcast, run the
IP.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I wasn't aware that he was asking you to believe that his real name was
> 'Tyler Dirden', if that is the case, I'd have to reconsider. I never saw
> any deliberate misrepresentation. I even posted many months ago when
> this topic came up, that his alias was from a movie. If it is just a
> case of someone using a handle and an assumption on your part, I stand
> by my statement.
>
> On the other hand, if it came to pass that his real name wasn't Nathan
> Otis I'd have a problem with that, since he specifically stated that it
> is his real name. I wouldn't get twisted about it, but I'd certainly
> question his credibility in the future.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On s/he's first post to me s/he says, s/he's with Comcast, run the
IP.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I wasn't aware that he was asking you to believe that his real name was
> 'Tyler Dirden', if that is the case, I'd have to reconsider. I never saw
> any deliberate misrepresentation. I even posted many months ago when
> this topic came up, that his alias was from a movie. If it is just a
> case of someone using a handle and an assumption on your part, I stand
> by my statement.
>
> On the other hand, if it came to pass that his real name wasn't Nathan
> Otis I'd have a problem with that, since he specifically stated that it
> is his real name. I wouldn't get twisted about it, but I'd certainly
> question his credibility in the future.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On s/he's first post to me s/he says, s/he's with Comcast, run the
IP.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I wasn't aware that he was asking you to believe that his real name was
> 'Tyler Dirden', if that is the case, I'd have to reconsider. I never saw
> any deliberate misrepresentation. I even posted many months ago when
> this topic came up, that his alias was from a movie. If it is just a
> case of someone using a handle and an assumption on your part, I stand
> by my statement.
>
> On the other hand, if it came to pass that his real name wasn't Nathan
> Otis I'd have a problem with that, since he specifically stated that it
> is his real name. I wouldn't get twisted about it, but I'd certainly
> question his credibility in the future.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:20:47 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> Yes, it does bother me I'm the only American here willing to stand
>up for their first amendment rights.
> Simple, s/he was trolling.

Let's outline this.
Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.


> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
>> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
>> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
>> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
>> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
>> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
>> answer that question?
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>> :wq!


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:20:47 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> Yes, it does bother me I'm the only American here willing to stand
>up for their first amendment rights.
> Simple, s/he was trolling.

Let's outline this.
Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.


> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
>> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
>> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
>> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
>> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
>> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
>> answer that question?
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>> :wq!


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:20:47 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> Yes, it does bother me I'm the only American here willing to stand
>up for their first amendment rights.
> Simple, s/he was trolling.

Let's outline this.
Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.


> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
>> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
>> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
>> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
>> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
>> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
>> answer that question?
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>> :wq!


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

The Original Poster was asking us believe the new name was her real
name, you're asking to believe it, what proof do you have? She's lied
about the Internet Service Provider, in her first post to me. What makes
you think she's telling the truth about her name?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Let's outline this.
> Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
> said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
> them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
> it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
> you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

The Original Poster was asking us believe the new name was her real
name, you're asking to believe it, what proof do you have? She's lied
about the Internet Service Provider, in her first post to me. What makes
you think she's telling the truth about her name?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Let's outline this.
> Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
> said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
> them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
> it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
> you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

The Original Poster was asking us believe the new name was her real
name, you're asking to believe it, what proof do you have? She's lied
about the Internet Service Provider, in her first post to me. What makes
you think she's telling the truth about her name?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Let's outline this.
> Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
> said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
> them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
> it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
> you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

You're hopeless. *plonk*


On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:47:00 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> The Original Poster was asking us believe the new name was her real
>name, you're asking to believe it, what proof do you have? She's lied
>about the Internet Service Provider, in her first post to me. What makes
>you think she's telling the truth about her name?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Let's outline this.
>> Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
>> said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
>> them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
>> it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
>> you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>> :wq!


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

You're hopeless. *plonk*


On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:47:00 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> The Original Poster was asking us believe the new name was her real
>name, you're asking to believe it, what proof do you have? She's lied
>about the Internet Service Provider, in her first post to me. What makes
>you think she's telling the truth about her name?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Let's outline this.
>> Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
>> said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
>> them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
>> it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
>> you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>> :wq!


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

You're hopeless. *plonk*


On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:47:00 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> The Original Poster was asking us believe the new name was her real
>name, you're asking to believe it, what proof do you have? She's lied
>about the Internet Service Provider, in her first post to me. What makes
>you think she's telling the truth about her name?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Let's outline this.
>> Someone posted using name A. The same person posted using name B and
>> said that name B was their real name. As a reslut of that you call
>> them a troll and call imply they are anti-American. I think that sums
>> it up nicely. Again, I ask you to please think before responding if
>> you choose to respond. Of course the choice is yours. All the best.
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>> :wq!


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

The feeling is mutual. Only I have the balls to read the posts by
those that disagree with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


travis wrote:
>
> You're hopeless. *plonk*

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

The feeling is mutual. Only I have the balls to read the posts by
those that disagree with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


travis wrote:
>
> You're hopeless. *plonk*

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

The feeling is mutual. Only I have the balls to read the posts by
those that disagree with me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


travis wrote:
>
> You're hopeless. *plonk*

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

In article <3F89F3B3.51026FEA@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Only I have the balls to read the posts by
>those that disagree with me.

You must spend hours reading the Usenet, then. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

In article <3F89F3B3.51026FEA@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Only I have the balls to read the posts by
>those that disagree with me.

You must spend hours reading the Usenet, then. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

In article <3F89F3B3.51026FEA@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Only I have the balls to read the posts by
>those that disagree with me.

You must spend hours reading the Usenet, then. :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

In article <3F89B6B2.46407ED0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> I come from a generation of Americans that took responsibility for
>their own actions, soon we will die off, and you wimps may continue let
>this country go to Hell, but it won't be your fault. Sure!

Yep, ol' Rush is from your generation, right? Taking responsibility for his own
actions...once he gets caught, that is...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

In article <3F89B6B2.46407ED0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> I come from a generation of Americans that took responsibility for
>their own actions, soon we will die off, and you wimps may continue let
>this country go to Hell, but it won't be your fault. Sure!

Yep, ol' Rush is from your generation, right? Taking responsibility for his own
actions...once he gets caught, that is...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

In article <3F89B6B2.46407ED0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> I come from a generation of Americans that took responsibility for
>their own actions, soon we will die off, and you wimps may continue let
>this country go to Hell, but it won't be your fault. Sure!

Yep, ol' Rush is from your generation, right? Taking responsibility for his own
actions...once he gets caught, that is...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Hi Matt,
The best of us screw up. They were prescription drugs, which due
his doctor's miss management of pain control forced him to the black
market. Fortunately My Doctor, feels for me rather fear the DEA, so I
have an open prescription to Vicodin for my L5-S1:
http://www.----------.com/vicodin.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Yep, ol' Rush is from your generation, right? Taking responsibility for his own
> actions...once he gets caught, that is...
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Hi Matt,
The best of us screw up. They were prescription drugs, which due
his doctor's miss management of pain control forced him to the black
market. Fortunately My Doctor, feels for me rather fear the DEA, so I
have an open prescription to Vicodin for my L5-S1:
http://www.----------.com/vicodin.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Yep, ol' Rush is from your generation, right? Taking responsibility for his own
> actions...once he gets caught, that is...
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Hi Matt,
The best of us screw up. They were prescription drugs, which due
his doctor's miss management of pain control forced him to the black
market. Fortunately My Doctor, feels for me rather fear the DEA, so I
have an open prescription to Vicodin for my L5-S1:
http://www.----------.com/vicodin.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Yep, ol' Rush is from your generation, right? Taking responsibility for his own
> actions...once he gets caught, that is...
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Yup, I don't have a life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You must spend hours reading the Usenet, then. :-)
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Yup, I don't have a life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You must spend hours reading the Usenet, then. :-)
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Yup, I don't have a life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You must spend hours reading the Usenet, then. :-)
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Wow, I go away for an afternoon (GO CUBS! Bring it home and finish 'em off)
and this thing that I thought was dead last night continues on, seemingly
unabated.

In case this is causing confusion to any others here, I thought I'd clarify
some things I've seen in replies...

1. The closing phrase "Game on" was used to show that my off topic time-out
was over and the (follow along with me now) "game" or on-topic jeep
discussions could continue with no further interruption.

2. I do not regard anyone who chooses to use an alias in newsgroups or other
online forums as a troll, wimpy, dishonest or un-American. (Peter Parker,
I'm looking at you... :-) Apologies if that's your real name... Spider-Man
rocks. Granted, my ideas are pretty radical and don't represent the rest of
the group so you're gonna hafta feel each member out on a case by case
basis. Cause we got some whacko in here!

3. Every SINGLE time I have sent personal e-mail to any member of this
group, regarding info on this group or any other topic, I have signed said
e-mails as Nathan or Nathan Otis (AKA Tyler Dirden on the forum). I did this
to A V O I D confusion, not to create a fracas or melee of misinformation. I
think one Mr. Collier could verify this as I contacted him on more than one
occasion and seem to recall a pleasant exchange of e-communication. Certain
other members of this group my want to refer to their electronic archives
(which I'm sure exist) to see e-mails I have sent to him... uh, I mean
them...

4. I moved to the NW Chicago suburbs in December of 2001 where I asked my
wife (whose name doesn't matter in this story) to call AT&T to set up
digital cable TV, telephone and internet service. Somewhere in 2003
(Spring?) Comcast bought or took over (or something) for AT&T. They changed
my e-mail addresses, my website addresses and all the addresses on the bills
they send to the house (in my name... my ... real name). What the headers
said about my account and it's tumultuous history never crossed my mind, and
yesterday was the first time I've ever seen them... It's all Greek to me
(Don't want to confuse anyone here... I'm not saying I am Greek. Nor am I
denying any inherent Greek-ness I may have in my veins... thought my mother
is part Greek, my father is primarily of German descent I believe. Just to
be clear). Got an issue with my headers? Take it up with Comcast ... or AT&T
or whatever company owns them ... or whatever company owns that company...
etc. etc. ad infinitum.

5. I am not the worlds best speller. I do use spell check, but sometimes,
you know... stuff happens.

6. My IP is... HAHA!!! Just kidding there. I'm pretty sure I have a static
IP and I wouldn't want to broadcast it to the unsavory element that holes up
in newsgroups for lack of anything better to do... Wow. I hope that doesn't
make me a traitor to my God, or Country.

Thank-you for your support. Game on.
n.




"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ojmjov4ncsrnmr6cv84c0jqvpd3osp81k0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:41:09 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > An after thought, if the original poster, troller, hadn't wanted me
> >to bit, s/he wouldn't have sign it "Game on"
>
> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
> answer that question?
>
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much
like
> >> in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
> >> didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
> >> alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
> >> a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
> >> but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
> >> Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
> >> discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
> >> seems to be the crux of the matter.
> >>
> >> Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
> >> but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to
avoid
> >> solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
> >> desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Wow, I go away for an afternoon (GO CUBS! Bring it home and finish 'em off)
and this thing that I thought was dead last night continues on, seemingly
unabated.

In case this is causing confusion to any others here, I thought I'd clarify
some things I've seen in replies...

1. The closing phrase "Game on" was used to show that my off topic time-out
was over and the (follow along with me now) "game" or on-topic jeep
discussions could continue with no further interruption.

2. I do not regard anyone who chooses to use an alias in newsgroups or other
online forums as a troll, wimpy, dishonest or un-American. (Peter Parker,
I'm looking at you... :-) Apologies if that's your real name... Spider-Man
rocks. Granted, my ideas are pretty radical and don't represent the rest of
the group so you're gonna hafta feel each member out on a case by case
basis. Cause we got some whacko in here!

3. Every SINGLE time I have sent personal e-mail to any member of this
group, regarding info on this group or any other topic, I have signed said
e-mails as Nathan or Nathan Otis (AKA Tyler Dirden on the forum). I did this
to A V O I D confusion, not to create a fracas or melee of misinformation. I
think one Mr. Collier could verify this as I contacted him on more than one
occasion and seem to recall a pleasant exchange of e-communication. Certain
other members of this group my want to refer to their electronic archives
(which I'm sure exist) to see e-mails I have sent to him... uh, I mean
them...

4. I moved to the NW Chicago suburbs in December of 2001 where I asked my
wife (whose name doesn't matter in this story) to call AT&T to set up
digital cable TV, telephone and internet service. Somewhere in 2003
(Spring?) Comcast bought or took over (or something) for AT&T. They changed
my e-mail addresses, my website addresses and all the addresses on the bills
they send to the house (in my name... my ... real name). What the headers
said about my account and it's tumultuous history never crossed my mind, and
yesterday was the first time I've ever seen them... It's all Greek to me
(Don't want to confuse anyone here... I'm not saying I am Greek. Nor am I
denying any inherent Greek-ness I may have in my veins... thought my mother
is part Greek, my father is primarily of German descent I believe. Just to
be clear). Got an issue with my headers? Take it up with Comcast ... or AT&T
or whatever company owns them ... or whatever company owns that company...
etc. etc. ad infinitum.

5. I am not the worlds best speller. I do use spell check, but sometimes,
you know... stuff happens.

6. My IP is... HAHA!!! Just kidding there. I'm pretty sure I have a static
IP and I wouldn't want to broadcast it to the unsavory element that holes up
in newsgroups for lack of anything better to do... Wow. I hope that doesn't
make me a traitor to my God, or Country.

Thank-you for your support. Game on.
n.




"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ojmjov4ncsrnmr6cv84c0jqvpd3osp81k0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:41:09 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > An after thought, if the original poster, troller, hadn't wanted me
> >to bit, s/he wouldn't have sign it "Game on"
>
> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
> answer that question?
>
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much
like
> >> in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
> >> didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
> >> alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
> >> a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
> >> but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
> >> Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
> >> discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
> >> seems to be the crux of the matter.
> >>
> >> Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
> >> but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to
avoid
> >> solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
> >> desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Wow, I go away for an afternoon (GO CUBS! Bring it home and finish 'em off)
and this thing that I thought was dead last night continues on, seemingly
unabated.

In case this is causing confusion to any others here, I thought I'd clarify
some things I've seen in replies...

1. The closing phrase "Game on" was used to show that my off topic time-out
was over and the (follow along with me now) "game" or on-topic jeep
discussions could continue with no further interruption.

2. I do not regard anyone who chooses to use an alias in newsgroups or other
online forums as a troll, wimpy, dishonest or un-American. (Peter Parker,
I'm looking at you... :-) Apologies if that's your real name... Spider-Man
rocks. Granted, my ideas are pretty radical and don't represent the rest of
the group so you're gonna hafta feel each member out on a case by case
basis. Cause we got some whacko in here!

3. Every SINGLE time I have sent personal e-mail to any member of this
group, regarding info on this group or any other topic, I have signed said
e-mails as Nathan or Nathan Otis (AKA Tyler Dirden on the forum). I did this
to A V O I D confusion, not to create a fracas or melee of misinformation. I
think one Mr. Collier could verify this as I contacted him on more than one
occasion and seem to recall a pleasant exchange of e-communication. Certain
other members of this group my want to refer to their electronic archives
(which I'm sure exist) to see e-mails I have sent to him... uh, I mean
them...

4. I moved to the NW Chicago suburbs in December of 2001 where I asked my
wife (whose name doesn't matter in this story) to call AT&T to set up
digital cable TV, telephone and internet service. Somewhere in 2003
(Spring?) Comcast bought or took over (or something) for AT&T. They changed
my e-mail addresses, my website addresses and all the addresses on the bills
they send to the house (in my name... my ... real name). What the headers
said about my account and it's tumultuous history never crossed my mind, and
yesterday was the first time I've ever seen them... It's all Greek to me
(Don't want to confuse anyone here... I'm not saying I am Greek. Nor am I
denying any inherent Greek-ness I may have in my veins... thought my mother
is part Greek, my father is primarily of German descent I believe. Just to
be clear). Got an issue with my headers? Take it up with Comcast ... or AT&T
or whatever company owns them ... or whatever company owns that company...
etc. etc. ad infinitum.

5. I am not the worlds best speller. I do use spell check, but sometimes,
you know... stuff happens.

6. My IP is... HAHA!!! Just kidding there. I'm pretty sure I have a static
IP and I wouldn't want to broadcast it to the unsavory element that holes up
in newsgroups for lack of anything better to do... Wow. I hope that doesn't
make me a traitor to my God, or Country.

Thank-you for your support. Game on.
n.




"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ojmjov4ncsrnmr6cv84c0jqvpd3osp81k0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:41:09 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > An after thought, if the original poster, troller, hadn't wanted me
> >to bit, s/he wouldn't have sign it "Game on"
>
> Here's another after-thought for you . You're the only one freaking
> out over the public declaration of the name the person in question
> decided to start using. Now I wonder why you are the only one it
> bothers. Nah, just kidding. I don't wonder at all. C'mon, dude. If
> he was trying to deceive someone then why would he have publicly said
> "my old name I used was XXX and my new one now is YYY."? Can you
> answer that question?
>
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it's common for people to use 'handles' on the Usenet, much
like
> >> in CB radio. That doesn't necessarily make them liars. While Nathan II
> >> didn't really make his ID known, most people knew 'Tyler Dirden' was an
> >> alias, much like using MABAR, JBJEEP, SNOW, MYDINGY, ETC. because it is
> >> a fictitious name. I can see the confusion if you hadn't seen the movie
> >> but I don't think there was any malicious intent in using the handle.
> >> Had he used 'Mickey Mouse', I don't know that we'd even be having the
> >> discussion, but I'm sure no one would have felt deceived. Deception
> >> seems to be the crux of the matter.
> >>
> >> Bill, I'm not sure where your correlation with the phonebook came from,
> >> but I think most people have unlisted numbers because they want to
avoid
> >> solicitors or unwanted phone calls. I think we can all relate to that
> >> desire. I certainly don't see how it makes anyone a 'wimp' or a 'liar'.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Sorry, further clarification... the following:

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:JOqib.746278$YN5.701603@sccrnsc01...
> 2. I do not regard anyone who chooses to use an alias in newsgroups or
other
> online forums as a troll, wimpy, dishonest or un-American. (Peter Parker,
> I'm looking at you... :-) Apologies if that's your real name... Spider-Man
> rocks. Granted, my ideas are pretty radical and don't represent the rest
of
> the group so you're gonna hafta feel each member out on a case by case
> basis. Cause we got some whacko in here!

The final sentance should read, "Cause we got some whackos in here!". I was
not calling attention or referencing any single particular whacko.

Sorry... as you were.
n.


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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Sorry, further clarification... the following:

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:JOqib.746278$YN5.701603@sccrnsc01...
> 2. I do not regard anyone who chooses to use an alias in newsgroups or
other
> online forums as a troll, wimpy, dishonest or un-American. (Peter Parker,
> I'm looking at you... :-) Apologies if that's your real name... Spider-Man
> rocks. Granted, my ideas are pretty radical and don't represent the rest
of
> the group so you're gonna hafta feel each member out on a case by case
> basis. Cause we got some whacko in here!

The final sentance should read, "Cause we got some whackos in here!". I was
not calling attention or referencing any single particular whacko.

Sorry... as you were.
n.


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Re: (OT?) Coming out (name change)
 

Sorry, further clarification... the following:

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:JOqib.746278$YN5.701603@sccrnsc01...
> 2. I do not regard anyone who chooses to use an alias in newsgroups or
other
> online forums as a troll, wimpy, dishonest or un-American. (Peter Parker,
> I'm looking at you... :-) Apologies if that's your real name... Spider-Man
> rocks. Granted, my ideas are pretty radical and don't represent the rest
of
> the group so you're gonna hafta feel each member out on a case by case
> basis. Cause we got some whacko in here!

The final sentance should read, "Cause we got some whackos in here!". I was
not calling attention or referencing any single particular whacko.

Sorry... as you were.
n.


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