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Dave 01-29-2006 09:11 PM

OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D

I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D

Stupendous Man 01-29-2006 09:45 PM

Re: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I have a J & M unit on my bike, it is great.
Why there are no competitors i don't know. One of my friends mounted a
standard hand-held unit on his bike and it worked ok, but I couldn't hear
him when the wind noise got high over about 40 mph. His radio shack mic
sucked. With a little rewiring a j&m headset could be adapted, but they are
$200. I got the premium set, and they play music with much higher quality
than a set of earbuds plugged into the same mp3 unit.



Stupendous Man 01-29-2006 09:45 PM

Re: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I have a J & M unit on my bike, it is great.
Why there are no competitors i don't know. One of my friends mounted a
standard hand-held unit on his bike and it worked ok, but I couldn't hear
him when the wind noise got high over about 40 mph. His radio shack mic
sucked. With a little rewiring a j&m headset could be adapted, but they are
$200. I got the premium set, and they play music with much higher quality
than a set of earbuds plugged into the same mp3 unit.



Stupendous Man 01-29-2006 09:45 PM

Re: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I have a J & M unit on my bike, it is great.
Why there are no competitors i don't know. One of my friends mounted a
standard hand-held unit on his bike and it worked ok, but I couldn't hear
him when the wind noise got high over about 40 mph. His radio shack mic
sucked. With a little rewiring a j&m headset could be adapted, but they are
$200. I got the premium set, and they play music with much higher quality
than a set of earbuds plugged into the same mp3 unit.



Dick 01-29-2006 11:21 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:11:05 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
>group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
>Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
>a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
>answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D
>
>I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
>considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
>with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
>canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
>would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
> Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
>motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
>saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
>than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D


CB's made for motorcycles are expensive because they integrate into
the bike's radio system. They are made to be used with helmet
headsets. When a signal comes in on the CB, the radio/stereo system
cuts off so you can hear the CB. That said, you can always use a
small CB on a bike with just a hand mike and the CB's speaker. If you
travel in a group though, loud speakers get annoying real fast.

----

Dick 01-29-2006 11:21 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:11:05 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
>group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
>Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
>a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
>answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D
>
>I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
>considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
>with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
>canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
>would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
> Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
>motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
>saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
>than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D


CB's made for motorcycles are expensive because they integrate into
the bike's radio system. They are made to be used with helmet
headsets. When a signal comes in on the CB, the radio/stereo system
cuts off so you can hear the CB. That said, you can always use a
small CB on a bike with just a hand mike and the CB's speaker. If you
travel in a group though, loud speakers get annoying real fast.

----

Dick 01-29-2006 11:21 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:11:05 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
>group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
>Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
>a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
>answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D
>
>I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
>considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
>with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
>canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
>would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
> Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
>motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
>saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
>than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D


CB's made for motorcycles are expensive because they integrate into
the bike's radio system. They are made to be used with helmet
headsets. When a signal comes in on the CB, the radio/stereo system
cuts off so you can hear the CB. That said, you can always use a
small CB on a bike with just a hand mike and the CB's speaker. If you
travel in a group though, loud speakers get annoying real fast.

----

twaldron 01-30-2006 08:48 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I use a GMRS/FRS Chatterbox. Sounds better than a CB, plus it's
small/compact, noise cancelling, and works well with my sportbikes as
well as my dual sport. You can plug your passenger into the same box, or
an mp3 player, or even some cellphones. I don't feel they are expensive.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Dave wrote:
> OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
> group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
> Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
> a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
> answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D
>
> I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
> considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
> with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
> canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
> would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
> Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
> motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
> saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
> than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D


twaldron 01-30-2006 08:48 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I use a GMRS/FRS Chatterbox. Sounds better than a CB, plus it's
small/compact, noise cancelling, and works well with my sportbikes as
well as my dual sport. You can plug your passenger into the same box, or
an mp3 player, or even some cellphones. I don't feel they are expensive.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Dave wrote:
> OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
> group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
> Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
> a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
> answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D
>
> I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
> considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
> with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
> canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
> would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
> Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
> motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
> saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
> than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D


twaldron 01-30-2006 08:48 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I use a GMRS/FRS Chatterbox. Sounds better than a CB, plus it's
small/compact, noise cancelling, and works well with my sportbikes as
well as my dual sport. You can plug your passenger into the same box, or
an mp3 player, or even some cellphones. I don't feel they are expensive.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Dave wrote:
> OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
> group. I know this isn't a CB group. But I do have a JEEP! Not a real
> Jeep, it's a TJ. And by lurking at this newsgroup I know you guys have
> a great knowledge of CBs and I need to ask a question that could not be
> answered on the MC NG. Thank you ahead of time for your info ~D
>
> I'm wondering why motorcycle CB kits are so expensive. I was
> considering wiring a standard / cheap CB to the wiring I already have
> with 2 removable 50 watt speakers. I understand there are noise
> canceling mics. but I'm not planning on doing a lot of speaking, but
> would be nice to hear any chatter amongst the ride leader / tail gunner.
> Is it possible, or am I missing some amazingly obvious reason why
> motorcycle CB's are so expensive. I can easily fit a small CB in my
> saddle bags, mounting an antenna to my luggage rack would be easy, other
> than a noise canceling mic pretty simple set up. right? ~D


noneyabusiness 01-30-2006 10:24 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:11:05 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
>group. I know this isn't a CB group.


>But I do have a JEEP! Not a real Jeep, it's a TJ.


BLASPHEMER !

;-)

>

[snip]

noneyabusiness 01-30-2006 10:24 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:11:05 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
>group. I know this isn't a CB group.


>But I do have a JEEP! Not a real Jeep, it's a TJ.


BLASPHEMER !

;-)

>

[snip]

noneyabusiness 01-30-2006 10:24 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:11:05 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>OFF TOPIC: before anyone grills me, I know this is not a motorcycle
>group. I know this isn't a CB group.


>But I do have a JEEP! Not a real Jeep, it's a TJ.


BLASPHEMER !

;-)

>

[snip]

Stupendous Man 01-30-2006 11:54 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
>I use a GMRS/FRS Chatterbox. Sounds better than a CB, plus it's
>small/compact, noise cancelling, and works well with my sportbikes as well
>as my dual sport. You can plug your passenger into the same box, or an mp3
>player, or even some cellphones. I don't feel they are expensive.


The FRS freq radios are better, but you can't talk to the majority of
motorcyclists on air who are on factory units from Honda and Harley . One of
J&Ms engineers told me that they are probably (but i didn't hear it from
him) ;-) going to release a cb/frs unit this year.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Stupendous Man 01-30-2006 11:54 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
>I use a GMRS/FRS Chatterbox. Sounds better than a CB, plus it's
>small/compact, noise cancelling, and works well with my sportbikes as well
>as my dual sport. You can plug your passenger into the same box, or an mp3
>player, or even some cellphones. I don't feel they are expensive.


The FRS freq radios are better, but you can't talk to the majority of
motorcyclists on air who are on factory units from Honda and Harley . One of
J&Ms engineers told me that they are probably (but i didn't hear it from
him) ;-) going to release a cb/frs unit this year.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Stupendous Man 01-30-2006 11:54 AM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
>I use a GMRS/FRS Chatterbox. Sounds better than a CB, plus it's
>small/compact, noise cancelling, and works well with my sportbikes as well
>as my dual sport. You can plug your passenger into the same box, or an mp3
>player, or even some cellphones. I don't feel they are expensive.


The FRS freq radios are better, but you can't talk to the majority of
motorcyclists on air who are on factory units from Honda and Harley . One of
J&Ms engineers told me that they are probably (but i didn't hear it from
him) ;-) going to release a cb/frs unit this year.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Dave 01-30-2006 01:56 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
Well I found an old CB I had and surprise to me, it works, and borrowed
an antenna from my dad, I'll be able to test this quickly and easily...
I'll post how it's going when I find out ~D
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT... if anyone has anything else to add...
please do. ~D

Dave 01-30-2006 01:56 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
Well I found an old CB I had and surprise to me, it works, and borrowed
an antenna from my dad, I'll be able to test this quickly and easily...
I'll post how it's going when I find out ~D
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT... if anyone has anything else to add...
please do. ~D

Dave 01-30-2006 01:56 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
Well I found an old CB I had and surprise to me, it works, and borrowed
an antenna from my dad, I'll be able to test this quickly and easily...
I'll post how it's going when I find out ~D
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT... if anyone has anything else to add...
please do. ~D

Dick 01-30-2006 02:36 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I don't know what kind of bike you have, but on our Honda GoldWing, we
used the luggage rack as a base for the antenna. I found a mirror
mount type of clamp that worked perfectly to clamp onto one of the
bars on the rack. You also need to run a ground from the rack to the
frame of the motorcycle. The groundplane effect from a motorcycle is
very small. You need all the help you can get.

----

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:56:48 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>Well I found an old CB I had and surprise to me, it works, and borrowed
>an antenna from my dad, I'll be able to test this quickly and easily...
>I'll post how it's going when I find out ~D
>THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT... if anyone has anything else to add...
>please do. ~D



Dick 01-30-2006 02:36 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I don't know what kind of bike you have, but on our Honda GoldWing, we
used the luggage rack as a base for the antenna. I found a mirror
mount type of clamp that worked perfectly to clamp onto one of the
bars on the rack. You also need to run a ground from the rack to the
frame of the motorcycle. The groundplane effect from a motorcycle is
very small. You need all the help you can get.

----

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:56:48 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>Well I found an old CB I had and surprise to me, it works, and borrowed
>an antenna from my dad, I'll be able to test this quickly and easily...
>I'll post how it's going when I find out ~D
>THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT... if anyone has anything else to add...
>please do. ~D



Dick 01-30-2006 02:36 PM

Re: OT: CB communication and motorcycles
 
I don't know what kind of bike you have, but on our Honda GoldWing, we
used the luggage rack as a base for the antenna. I found a mirror
mount type of clamp that worked perfectly to clamp onto one of the
bars on the rack. You also need to run a ground from the rack to the
frame of the motorcycle. The groundplane effect from a motorcycle is
very small. You need all the help you can get.

----

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:56:48 GMT, Dave <Closed@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>Well I found an old CB I had and surprise to me, it works, and borrowed
>an antenna from my dad, I'll be able to test this quickly and easily...
>I'll post how it's going when I find out ~D
>THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT... if anyone has anything else to add...
>please do. ~D




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