Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
Dunes area.

In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
driving and when (seasonal restrictions).

My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
down? I have never done any of this type of driving.

I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
certain areas or trails? Got any good links?

How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
with dirt bikes and ATVs?

Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
area....

John Davies

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

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John Davies wrote:
>
> I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
> am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
> Dunes area.
>
> In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
> driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>
> My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
> will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
> down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>
> I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
> anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
> certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>
> How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
> with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>
> Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
> area....
>
> John Davies

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

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John Davies wrote:
>
> I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
> am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
> Dunes area.
>
> In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
> driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>
> My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
> will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
> down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>
> I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
> anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
> certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>
> How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
> with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>
> Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
> area....
>
> John Davies

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

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John Davies wrote:
>
> I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
> am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
> Dunes area.
>
> In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
> driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>
> My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
> will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
> down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>
> I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
> anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
> certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>
> How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
> with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>
> Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
> area....
>
> John Davies

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the dunes
was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to be. It
was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the moguls
in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The tires
on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.

I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But maybe
they weren't allowed. I don't know)

Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on the
dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a total
spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I now
have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>

The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
Dean


On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>Dunes area.
>
>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>
>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>
>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>
>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>
>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>area....
>
>John Davies
>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the dunes
was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to be. It
was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the moguls
in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The tires
on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.

I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But maybe
they weren't allowed. I don't know)

Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on the
dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a total
spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I now
have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>

The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
Dean


On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>Dunes area.
>
>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>
>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>
>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>
>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>
>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>area....
>
>John Davies
>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the dunes
was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to be. It
was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the moguls
in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The tires
on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.

I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But maybe
they weren't allowed. I don't know)

Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on the
dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a total
spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I now
have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>

The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
Dean


On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>Dunes area.
>
>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>
>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>
>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>
>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>
>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>area....
>
>John Davies
>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

air down to about 25psi...

if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....


treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....

ed .... ( beach local....)




"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
dunes
> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
be. It
> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
moguls
> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
tires
> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>
> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
maybe
> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>
> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
the
> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
total
> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
now
> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>
> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
> Dean
>
>
> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
> >am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
> >Dunes area.
> >
> >In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
> >driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
> >
> >My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
> >will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
> >down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
> >
> >I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
> >anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
> >certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
> >
> >How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
> >with dirt bikes and ATVs?
> >
> >Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
> >area....
> >
> >John Davies
> >
> >
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

air down to about 25psi...

if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....


treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....

ed .... ( beach local....)




"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
dunes
> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
be. It
> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
moguls
> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
tires
> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>
> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
maybe
> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>
> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
the
> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
total
> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
now
> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>
> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
> Dean
>
>
> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
> >am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
> >Dunes area.
> >
> >In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
> >driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
> >
> >My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
> >will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
> >down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
> >
> >I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
> >anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
> >certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
> >
> >How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
> >with dirt bikes and ATVs?
> >
> >Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
> >area....
> >
> >John Davies
> >
> >
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

air down to about 25psi...

if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....


treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....

ed .... ( beach local....)




"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
dunes
> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
be. It
> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
moguls
> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
tires
> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>
> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
maybe
> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>
> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
the
> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
total
> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
now
> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>
> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
> Dean
>
>
> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
> >am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
> >Dunes area.
> >
> >In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
> >driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
> >
> >My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
> >will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
> >down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
> >
> >I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
> >anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
> >certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
> >
> >How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
> >with dirt bikes and ATVs?
> >
> >Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
> >area....
> >
> >John Davies
> >
> >
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

And be quite knowledgeable about local tidal schedules. Nothing like
watching the water slowly head for your tires as you try to get
either a tow or enough stuff under them to get a bit of forward
motion again....the good news is that the wetting from the incoming
tide can help you get out. The bad news is if you don't follow
Ed's advice and have buried yourself in the sand.


Ed Roper proclaimed:

> air down to about 25psi...
> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
> ed .... ( beach local....)
>
>
>
>
> "Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
>
>>We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>
> dunes
>
>>was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>
> be. It
>
>>was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>
> moguls
>
>>in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
>
> tires
>
>>on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>
>>I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
>
> maybe
>
>>they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>
>>Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>
> the
>
>>dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
>
> total
>
>>spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>
> now
>
>>have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>
>>The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>>Dean
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
>
> <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>>Dunes area.
>>>
>>>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>>
>>>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>>
>>>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>>
>>>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>>area....
>>>
>>>John Davies
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

And be quite knowledgeable about local tidal schedules. Nothing like
watching the water slowly head for your tires as you try to get
either a tow or enough stuff under them to get a bit of forward
motion again....the good news is that the wetting from the incoming
tide can help you get out. The bad news is if you don't follow
Ed's advice and have buried yourself in the sand.


Ed Roper proclaimed:

> air down to about 25psi...
> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
> ed .... ( beach local....)
>
>
>
>
> "Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
>
>>We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>
> dunes
>
>>was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>
> be. It
>
>>was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>
> moguls
>
>>in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
>
> tires
>
>>on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>
>>I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
>
> maybe
>
>>they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>
>>Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>
> the
>
>>dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
>
> total
>
>>spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>
> now
>
>>have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>
>>The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>>Dean
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
>
> <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>>Dunes area.
>>>
>>>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>>
>>>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>>
>>>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>>
>>>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>>area....
>>>
>>>John Davies
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

And be quite knowledgeable about local tidal schedules. Nothing like
watching the water slowly head for your tires as you try to get
either a tow or enough stuff under them to get a bit of forward
motion again....the good news is that the wetting from the incoming
tide can help you get out. The bad news is if you don't follow
Ed's advice and have buried yourself in the sand.


Ed Roper proclaimed:

> air down to about 25psi...
> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
> ed .... ( beach local....)
>
>
>
>
> "Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
>
>>We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>
> dunes
>
>>was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>
> be. It
>
>>was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>
> moguls
>
>>in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
>
> tires
>
>>on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>
>>I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
>
> maybe
>
>>they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>
>>Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>
> the
>
>>dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
>
> total
>
>>spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>
> now
>
>>have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>
>>The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>>Dean
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
>
> <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>>Dunes area.
>>>
>>>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>>
>>>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>>
>>>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>>
>>>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>>area....
>>>
>>>John Davies
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Air down to 25 psi??? That little amount of airing down will not do
much good at all. To effectively increase the footprint of the tire,
you need to get the air pressure down into the low or maybe the mid
teens... which is not airing down too much at all. Remember to let the
sand slow you down and stop you, using the brakes to stop on sand will
usually cause a berm to form in front of your tires which makes getting
started again a dicey thing.

Jerry

Lon wrote:
> And be quite knowledgeable about local tidal schedules. Nothing like
> watching the water slowly head for your tires as you try to get
> either a tow or enough stuff under them to get a bit of forward
> motion again....the good news is that the wetting from the incoming
> tide can help you get out. The bad news is if you don't follow
> Ed's advice and have buried yourself in the sand.
>
>
> Ed Roper proclaimed:
>
>> air down to about 25psi...
>> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
>> ed .... ( beach local....)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>> news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
>>
>>> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>>
>>
>> dunes
>>
>>> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>>
>>
>> be. It
>>
>>> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>>
>>
>> moguls
>>
>>> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame.
>>> The
>>
>>
>> tires
>>
>>> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>>
>>> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were.
>>> (But
>>
>>
>> maybe
>>
>>> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>>
>>> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it
>>> was a
>>
>>
>> total
>>
>>> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>>
>>
>> now
>>
>>> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>>
>>> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>>> Dean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
>>
>>
>> <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>>> am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>>> Dunes area.
>>>>
>>>> In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>>> driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>>>
>>>> My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>>> will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>>> down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>>>
>>>> I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>>> anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>>> certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>>>
>>>> How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>>> with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>>> area....
>>>>
>>>> John Davies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Air down to 25 psi??? That little amount of airing down will not do
much good at all. To effectively increase the footprint of the tire,
you need to get the air pressure down into the low or maybe the mid
teens... which is not airing down too much at all. Remember to let the
sand slow you down and stop you, using the brakes to stop on sand will
usually cause a berm to form in front of your tires which makes getting
started again a dicey thing.

Jerry

Lon wrote:
> And be quite knowledgeable about local tidal schedules. Nothing like
> watching the water slowly head for your tires as you try to get
> either a tow or enough stuff under them to get a bit of forward
> motion again....the good news is that the wetting from the incoming
> tide can help you get out. The bad news is if you don't follow
> Ed's advice and have buried yourself in the sand.
>
>
> Ed Roper proclaimed:
>
>> air down to about 25psi...
>> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
>> ed .... ( beach local....)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>> news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
>>
>>> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>>
>>
>> dunes
>>
>>> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>>
>>
>> be. It
>>
>>> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>>
>>
>> moguls
>>
>>> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame.
>>> The
>>
>>
>> tires
>>
>>> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>>
>>> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were.
>>> (But
>>
>>
>> maybe
>>
>>> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>>
>>> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it
>>> was a
>>
>>
>> total
>>
>>> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>>
>>
>> now
>>
>>> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>>
>>> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>>> Dean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
>>
>>
>> <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>>> am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>>> Dunes area.
>>>>
>>>> In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>>> driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>>>
>>>> My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>>> will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>>> down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>>>
>>>> I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>>> anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>>> certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>>>
>>>> How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>>> with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>>> area....
>>>>
>>>> John Davies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Air down to 25 psi??? That little amount of airing down will not do
much good at all. To effectively increase the footprint of the tire,
you need to get the air pressure down into the low or maybe the mid
teens... which is not airing down too much at all. Remember to let the
sand slow you down and stop you, using the brakes to stop on sand will
usually cause a berm to form in front of your tires which makes getting
started again a dicey thing.

Jerry

Lon wrote:
> And be quite knowledgeable about local tidal schedules. Nothing like
> watching the water slowly head for your tires as you try to get
> either a tow or enough stuff under them to get a bit of forward
> motion again....the good news is that the wetting from the incoming
> tide can help you get out. The bad news is if you don't follow
> Ed's advice and have buried yourself in the sand.
>
>
> Ed Roper proclaimed:
>
>> air down to about 25psi...
>> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
>> ed .... ( beach local....)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>> news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com...
>>
>>> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>>
>>
>> dunes
>>
>>> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>>
>>
>> be. It
>>
>>> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>>
>>
>> moguls
>>
>>> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame.
>>> The
>>
>>
>> tires
>>
>>> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>>
>>> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were.
>>> (But
>>
>>
>> maybe
>>
>>> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>>
>>> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it
>>> was a
>>
>>
>> total
>>
>>> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>>
>>
>> now
>>
>>> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>>
>>> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>>> Dean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
>>
>>
>> <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>>> am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>>> Dunes area.
>>>>
>>>> In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>>> driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>>>
>>>> My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>>> will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>>> down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>>>
>>>> I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>>> anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>>> certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>>>
>>>> How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>>> with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>>> area....
>>>>
>>>> John Davies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:07:38 -0500, "Ed Roper" <enroper@adelphia.net> wrote:

>air down to about 25psi...

25 psi? Heck that is my street pressure <lol>

>if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>
>
>treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....

As a rock crawler mud and sand scare me. <g> Give me broken u joints, snapped
axles and roll overs any day! <lol>

Dean

>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com.. .
>> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>dunes
>> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>be. It
>> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>moguls
>> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
>tires
>> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>
>> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
>maybe
>> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>
>> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>the
>> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
>total
>> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>now
>> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>
>> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>> Dean
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
><saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>> >am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>> >Dunes area.
>> >
>> >In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>> >driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>> >
>> >My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>> >will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>> >down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>> >
>> >I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>> >anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>> >certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>> >
>> >How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>> >with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>> >
>> >Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>> >area....
>> >
>> >John Davies
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:07:38 -0500, "Ed Roper" <enroper@adelphia.net> wrote:

>air down to about 25psi...

25 psi? Heck that is my street pressure <lol>

>if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>
>
>treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....

As a rock crawler mud and sand scare me. <g> Give me broken u joints, snapped
axles and roll overs any day! <lol>

Dean

>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com.. .
>> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>dunes
>> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>be. It
>> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>moguls
>> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
>tires
>> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>
>> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
>maybe
>> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>
>> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>the
>> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
>total
>> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>now
>> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>
>> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>> Dean
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
><saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>> >am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>> >Dunes area.
>> >
>> >In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>> >driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>> >
>> >My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>> >will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>> >down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>> >
>> >I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>> >anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>> >certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>> >
>> >How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>> >with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>> >
>> >Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>> >area....
>> >
>> >John Davies
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:07:38 -0500, "Ed Roper" <enroper@adelphia.net> wrote:

>air down to about 25psi...

25 psi? Heck that is my street pressure <lol>

>if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>
>
>treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....

As a rock crawler mud and sand scare me. <g> Give me broken u joints, snapped
axles and roll overs any day! <lol>

Dean

>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:0kt0u0l5d76abgr25m2iknkntodldkpgnl@4ax.com.. .
>> We were there last summer and the only full sized anything I saw on the
>dunes
>> was a GM pickup frame with a roll cage welded on where the body used to
>be. It
>> was being used by the outfit we rented the ATV's from to smooth out the
>moguls
>> in the trail. They were dragging what looked like an old bed frame. The
>tires
>> on this beast were Mickey Thompson 35x17.50 Baja's.
>>
>> I was really disappointed that I didn't see one Jeep where we were. (But
>maybe
>> they weren't allowed. I don't know)
>>
>> Now if you want to talk about fun, those ATV's we rented were a blast on
>the
>> dunes, and they were just 250's. I'd never ridden one before and it was a
>total
>> spur of the moment decision to rent them. Unfortunately for my wallet I
>now
>> have a real bad case of the "I wants." <lol>
>>
>> The dunes are a fun place and I hope to return someday,
>> Dean
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies
><saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>> >am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>> >Dunes area.
>> >
>> >In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>> >driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>> >
>> >My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>> >will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>> >down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>> >
>> >I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>> >anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>> >certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>> >
>> >How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>> >with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>> >
>> >Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>> >area....
>> >
>> >John Davies
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Hi Ed,
Type-Oh? I use five pounds in sand:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm Ten in rock:
http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Ed Roper wrote:
>
> air down to about 25psi...
>
> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>
> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
>
> ed .... ( beach local....)

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Hi Ed,
Type-Oh? I use five pounds in sand:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm Ten in rock:
http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Ed Roper wrote:
>
> air down to about 25psi...
>
> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>
> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
>
> ed .... ( beach local....)

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Hi Ed,
Type-Oh? I use five pounds in sand:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm Ten in rock:
http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Ed Roper wrote:
>
> air down to about 25psi...
>
> if you feel yourself stop moving, let off the gas, IMMEDIATELY....
>
> treat it like mud...except even harder to get out of....
>
> ed .... ( beach local....)

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)

http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41E185EC.7EA23441@cox.net...
> Hi Ed,
> Type-Oh? I use five pounds in sand:
> http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)

http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41E185EC.7EA23441@cox.net...
> Hi Ed,
> Type-Oh? I use five pounds in sand:
> http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)

http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41E185EC.7EA23441@cox.net...
> Hi Ed,
> Type-Oh? I use five pounds in sand:
> http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Except, she was saying something about that drunk a** hole's going
to roll it again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)
>
> http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
> http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Except, she was saying something about that drunk a** hole's going
to roll it again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)
>
> http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
> http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Except, she was saying something about that drunk a** hole's going
to roll it again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)
>
> http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
> http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Looks good to me. Where was that taken ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41E19764.3774CF7F@cox.net...
> Except, she was saying something about that drunk a** hole's going
> to roll it again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)
> >
> > http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
> > http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Looks good to me. Where was that taken ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41E19764.3774CF7F@cox.net...
> Except, she was saying something about that drunk a** hole's going
> to roll it again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)
> >
> > http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
> > http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Looks good to me. Where was that taken ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41E19764.3774CF7F@cox.net...
> Except, she was saying something about that drunk a** hole's going
> to roll it again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > The woman behind you - reminds me of the painting "the scream" :-)
> >
> > http://www.artofeurope.com/munch/mun3.htm
> > http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Hi Dave,
It was north of Salton Sea Way road, about mid way between Borrego
Springs, and the Salton Sea, California. Centered in this map:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...33&mqmap.y=151
The trail lead to an old mining ghost town, we had to walk the last
mile, which is why it still had all the old equipment and stuff like an
old one cylinder two flywheel engine I would have like to have taken. I
think, thanks to our bleeding heart liberals, the area is now closed to
even hikers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Looks good to me. Where was that taken ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Hi Dave,
It was north of Salton Sea Way road, about mid way between Borrego
Springs, and the Salton Sea, California. Centered in this map:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...33&mqmap.y=151
The trail lead to an old mining ghost town, we had to walk the last
mile, which is why it still had all the old equipment and stuff like an
old one cylinder two flywheel engine I would have like to have taken. I
think, thanks to our bleeding heart liberals, the area is now closed to
even hikers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Looks good to me. Where was that taken ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

Hi Dave,
It was north of Salton Sea Way road, about mid way between Borrego
Springs, and the Salton Sea, California. Centered in this map:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...33&mqmap.y=151
The trail lead to an old mining ghost town, we had to walk the last
mile, which is why it still had all the old equipment and stuff like an
old one cylinder two flywheel engine I would have like to have taken. I
think, thanks to our bleeding heart liberals, the area is now closed to
even hikers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Looks good to me. Where was that taken ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
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Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>Dunes area.
>>
>>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>
>>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>
>>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>
>>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>
>>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>area....
>>
>>John Davies
>>
>>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>Dunes area.
>>
>>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>
>>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>
>>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>
>>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>
>>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>area....
>>
>>John Davies
>>
>>

Re: Oregon Dunes, beach driving in OR
 

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:59:29 -0800, John Davies <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>I am planning a summer visit to the North and South Oregon coast and
>>am interested in learning about beach driving and also the Oregon
>>Dunes area.
>>
>>In particular I would like a map that shows which beaches are open to
>>driving and when (seasonal restrictions).
>>
>>My truck has front and rear lockers but I am running 33 inch MTRs -
>>will the aggressive tread cause trouble in deep loose sand even aired
>>down? I have never done any of this type of driving.
>>
>>I know I need a flag and an ATV permit for the Dunes - is there
>>anything else I need to know? Are full sized vehicles limited to
>>certain areas or trails? Got any good links?
>>
>>How about a nice tent campground near the Dunes that is not swarming
>>with dirt bikes and ATVs?
>>
>>Thanks for any help - I am sure a lot of you guys have driven this
>>area....
>>
>>John Davies
>>
>>