Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
priorities are as follows:

-wet pavement

-snow and ice

-durability and ride quality

-mud

So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.

What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
trips, etc?

-jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I like my BF Goodrich AT KOs, the first tires I could hear my
stereo with, in fact practically no tire noise at all. They are made by
Michelin which is the only thing I don't like about them. Consumer
comparison:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jeff Olsen wrote:
>
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I like my BF Goodrich AT KOs, the first tires I could hear my
stereo with, in fact practically no tire noise at all. They are made by
Michelin which is the only thing I don't like about them. Consumer
comparison:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Olsen wrote:
>
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I like my BF Goodrich AT KOs, the first tires I could hear my
stereo with, in fact practically no tire noise at all. They are made by
Michelin which is the only thing I don't like about them. Consumer
comparison:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Olsen wrote:
>
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's
Quit smooth ride, darn good traction on snow.
Although not "that" great in slick mud

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's
Quit smooth ride, darn good traction on snow.
Although not "that" great in slick mud

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's
Quit smooth ride, darn good traction on snow.
Although not "that" great in slick mud

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

BFG AT KO's, I put them on both my Cherokee and my Grand. Low noise,
excellent wet/dry traction, really good in snow and mud when needed. I live
in Virginia and we get snow/ice/mud every year, the rest of the time it's
just wet and these are the best tires I've found yet.

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BE5D40AF.72F5%handywired@earthlink.net...
>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
> has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
> bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
> tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

BFG AT KO's, I put them on both my Cherokee and my Grand. Low noise,
excellent wet/dry traction, really good in snow and mud when needed. I live
in Virginia and we get snow/ice/mud every year, the rest of the time it's
just wet and these are the best tires I've found yet.

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BE5D40AF.72F5%handywired@earthlink.net...
>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
> has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
> bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
> tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

BFG AT KO's, I put them on both my Cherokee and my Grand. Low noise,
excellent wet/dry traction, really good in snow and mud when needed. I live
in Virginia and we get snow/ice/mud every year, the rest of the time it's
just wet and these are the best tires I've found yet.

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BE5D40AF.72F5%handywired@earthlink.net...
>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
> has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
> bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
> tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

Look at some Pirelli Scorpion ATs.

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

Look at some Pirelli Scorpion ATs.

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

Look at some Pirelli Scorpion ATs.

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>trips, etc?

I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
all-around tires, except for the mud.....

Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
Land Cruiser is heavy.

Have you checked the Tire Rack?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>trips, etc?

I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
all-around tires, except for the mud.....

Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
Land Cruiser is heavy.

Have you checked the Tire Rack?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>trips, etc?

I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
all-around tires, except for the mud.....

Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
Land Cruiser is heavy.

Have you checked the Tire Rack?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

in article uqkg31h6kaj6qhr549ukh8juad4acl9d5u@4ax.com, John Davies at
saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com wrote on 3/16/05 7:49 AM:

> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.

Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.

-jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

in article uqkg31h6kaj6qhr549ukh8juad4acl9d5u@4ax.com, John Davies at
saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com wrote on 3/16/05 7:49 AM:

> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.

Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.

-jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

in article uqkg31h6kaj6qhr549ukh8juad4acl9d5u@4ax.com, John Davies at
saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com wrote on 3/16/05 7:49 AM:

> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.

Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.

-jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:25 UTC John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> >trips, etc?
>
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....
>
> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.
>
> Have you checked the Tire Rack?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>
> Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
> are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John, what the hell are you running, anyway? The only time I run
those BFG A/T's over 30 psi is when the load in the bed of the
Comanche gets about cab high and the bump stops in the rear are
getting a workout. I run 30 front, 28 rear for wear and ride and tire
wear normally - anything over that and it acts like an over inflated
basketball going down the road. Door sticker calls for 30 psi
front/rear at rated load so I don't see any reason for ever testing
that sidewall MAX pressure rating.

When I got the truck it had BFG T/A Advantage tires on it (passenger
highway tires). It made a couple of trips CO to S. Texas before I
needed new rubber so when I went to the A/T I was expecting a lot of
noise and a much rougher ride. Surprise - the A/T was just noticably
noiser (except for those cross-grooved concrete stretches - man, do
those sing) and the ride was comparable. Best wet road tire I've ever
used, grip on ice or packed snow is also really good. Wet, slushy
snow performance is good, but deep, loose snow is not as good as a
more agressive tread as the A/T tends to load up. Same problem as
deep mud - they don't clear as well as I would like. They wear like
iron - 45,000 and I'm looking at somewhere around 60, 65k before I
need to even think about changing them.

--
Will Honea

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:25 UTC John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> >trips, etc?
>
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....
>
> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.
>
> Have you checked the Tire Rack?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>
> Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
> are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John, what the hell are you running, anyway? The only time I run
those BFG A/T's over 30 psi is when the load in the bed of the
Comanche gets about cab high and the bump stops in the rear are
getting a workout. I run 30 front, 28 rear for wear and ride and tire
wear normally - anything over that and it acts like an over inflated
basketball going down the road. Door sticker calls for 30 psi
front/rear at rated load so I don't see any reason for ever testing
that sidewall MAX pressure rating.

When I got the truck it had BFG T/A Advantage tires on it (passenger
highway tires). It made a couple of trips CO to S. Texas before I
needed new rubber so when I went to the A/T I was expecting a lot of
noise and a much rougher ride. Surprise - the A/T was just noticably
noiser (except for those cross-grooved concrete stretches - man, do
those sing) and the ride was comparable. Best wet road tire I've ever
used, grip on ice or packed snow is also really good. Wet, slushy
snow performance is good, but deep, loose snow is not as good as a
more agressive tread as the A/T tends to load up. Same problem as
deep mud - they don't clear as well as I would like. They wear like
iron - 45,000 and I'm looking at somewhere around 60, 65k before I
need to even think about changing them.

--
Will Honea

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:25 UTC John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> >trips, etc?
>
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....
>
> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.
>
> Have you checked the Tire Rack?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>
> Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
> are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John, what the hell are you running, anyway? The only time I run
those BFG A/T's over 30 psi is when the load in the bed of the
Comanche gets about cab high and the bump stops in the rear are
getting a workout. I run 30 front, 28 rear for wear and ride and tire
wear normally - anything over that and it acts like an over inflated
basketball going down the road. Door sticker calls for 30 psi
front/rear at rated load so I don't see any reason for ever testing
that sidewall MAX pressure rating.

When I got the truck it had BFG T/A Advantage tires on it (passenger
highway tires). It made a couple of trips CO to S. Texas before I
needed new rubber so when I went to the A/T I was expecting a lot of
noise and a much rougher ride. Surprise - the A/T was just noticably
noiser (except for those cross-grooved concrete stretches - man, do
those sing) and the ride was comparable. Best wet road tire I've ever
used, grip on ice or packed snow is also really good. Wet, slushy
snow performance is good, but deep, loose snow is not as good as a
more agressive tread as the A/T tends to load up. Same problem as
deep mud - they don't clear as well as I would like. They wear like
iron - 45,000 and I'm looking at somewhere around 60, 65k before I
need to even think about changing them.

--
Will Honea

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
>aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
>Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
>it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
>priorities are as follows:


Duler AT Revo's are excellent rain, snow tires, noiser than I expected
but worth it.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
>aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
>Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
>it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
>priorities are as follows:


Duler AT Revo's are excellent rain, snow tires, noiser than I expected
but worth it.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
>aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
>Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
>it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
>priorities are as follows:


Duler AT Revo's are excellent rain, snow tires, noiser than I expected
but worth it.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

Try 28 psi.

John Davies wrote:
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

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Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

Try 28 psi.

John Davies wrote:
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

Try 28 psi.

John Davies wrote:
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

You mean Land Crusher.
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Jeff Olsen wrote:
>
> Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
> of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
> the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
> used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.
>
> -jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

You mean Land Crusher.
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Jeff Olsen wrote:
>
> Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
> of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
> the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
> used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.
>
> -jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

You mean Land Crusher.
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Olsen wrote:
>
> Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
> of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
> the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
> used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.
>
> -jeff

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I'll 2nd that... have them on my TJ and love them.


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:77qdnZHLFdD_g6XfRVn-hw@magma.ca...
> I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's
> Quit smooth ride, darn good traction on snow.
> Although not "that" great in slick mud
>
> Jeff Olsen wrote:
>> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
>> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
>> has
>> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
>> bought
>> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
>> priorities are as follows:
>>
>> -wet pavement
>>
>> -snow and ice
>>
>> -durability and ride quality
>>
>> -mud
>>
>> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
>> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
>> tire
>> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
>> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
>> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>>
>> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>> trips, etc?
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I'll 2nd that... have them on my TJ and love them.


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:77qdnZHLFdD_g6XfRVn-hw@magma.ca...
> I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's
> Quit smooth ride, darn good traction on snow.
> Although not "that" great in slick mud
>
> Jeff Olsen wrote:
>> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
>> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
>> has
>> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
>> bought
>> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
>> priorities are as follows:
>>
>> -wet pavement
>>
>> -snow and ice
>>
>> -durability and ride quality
>>
>> -mud
>>
>> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
>> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
>> tire
>> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
>> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
>> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>>
>> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>> trips, etc?
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

I'll 2nd that... have them on my TJ and love them.


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:77qdnZHLFdD_g6XfRVn-hw@magma.ca...
> I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's
> Quit smooth ride, darn good traction on snow.
> Although not "that" great in slick mud
>
> Jeff Olsen wrote:
>> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
>> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
>> has
>> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
>> bought
>> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
>> priorities are as follows:
>>
>> -wet pavement
>>
>> -snow and ice
>>
>> -durability and ride quality
>>
>> -mud
>>
>> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
>> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
>> tire
>> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
>> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
>> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>>
>> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>> trips, etc?
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

try the sport kings made by bfg they are inexpensive and great all around
tires!!

Jarod Sprauer
Talk is Jeep @ www.SprauerMotorsports.com
281-807-Jeep (5337)


sen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BE5D40AF.72F5%handywired@earthlink.net...
>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
> has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
> bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
> tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

try the sport kings made by bfg they are inexpensive and great all around
tires!!

Jarod Sprauer
Talk is Jeep @ www.SprauerMotorsports.com
281-807-Jeep (5337)


sen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BE5D40AF.72F5%handywired@earthlink.net...
>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
> has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
> bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
> tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

Re: Opinions on best "lite" AT tire?
 

try the sport kings made by bfg they are inexpensive and great all around
tires!!

Jarod Sprauer
Talk is Jeep @ www.SprauerMotorsports.com
281-807-Jeep (5337)


sen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BE5D40AF.72F5%handywired@earthlink.net...
>I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It
> has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I
> bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the
> tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>