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cooper 04-22-2004 11:28 AM

Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.

It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The tranny
is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
loss where to look for a motor.

I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like 500
bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally get
it running.

Where do I start looking?

coop



Mike Romain 04-22-2004 12:16 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00 last time I checked.

Doing it yourself will run into $500.00 in parts....

I got a used low mileage engine for $400.00 for mine, but they are hard
to find.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

cooper wrote:
>
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like 500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop


Mike Romain 04-22-2004 12:16 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00 last time I checked.

Doing it yourself will run into $500.00 in parts....

I got a used low mileage engine for $400.00 for mine, but they are hard
to find.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

cooper wrote:
>
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like 500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop


Mike Romain 04-22-2004 12:16 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00 last time I checked.

Doing it yourself will run into $500.00 in parts....

I got a used low mileage engine for $400.00 for mine, but they are hard
to find.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

cooper wrote:
>
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like 500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop


Mike Romain 04-22-2004 12:16 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00 last time I checked.

Doing it yourself will run into $500.00 in parts....

I got a used low mileage engine for $400.00 for mine, but they are hard
to find.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

cooper wrote:
>
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like 500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop


fletcher 04-22-2004 07:17 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Keep us posted on what you find. I have been planning on rebuilding my worn
out 258 as my winter project. Then last night I found a free 258 that is in
need of a rebuild as well. So now I have the luxury of building one,
driving the other, then doing an engine swap at my discretion. I am in
about the same phase you are, looking at $350ish for a rebuild kit,
performance cam for $150ish, have the engine balanced $150ish, some time
getting parts machines $200ish. All of those prices are my guesses and from
about 10 minutes with Google so I really don't know what this will cost. I
add that up plus things that I forgot and I could easily be in this $1000.
Then I hear that "Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00" makes me
wonder if I need to look at that option instead?? Let us know what you
find, I will be watching.


"cooper" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:2qRhc.23978$ok3.16770@nntp-post.primus.ca...
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The

tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like

500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally

get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop
>
>





fletcher 04-22-2004 07:17 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Keep us posted on what you find. I have been planning on rebuilding my worn
out 258 as my winter project. Then last night I found a free 258 that is in
need of a rebuild as well. So now I have the luxury of building one,
driving the other, then doing an engine swap at my discretion. I am in
about the same phase you are, looking at $350ish for a rebuild kit,
performance cam for $150ish, have the engine balanced $150ish, some time
getting parts machines $200ish. All of those prices are my guesses and from
about 10 minutes with Google so I really don't know what this will cost. I
add that up plus things that I forgot and I could easily be in this $1000.
Then I hear that "Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00" makes me
wonder if I need to look at that option instead?? Let us know what you
find, I will be watching.


"cooper" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:2qRhc.23978$ok3.16770@nntp-post.primus.ca...
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The

tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like

500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally

get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop
>
>





fletcher 04-22-2004 07:17 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Keep us posted on what you find. I have been planning on rebuilding my worn
out 258 as my winter project. Then last night I found a free 258 that is in
need of a rebuild as well. So now I have the luxury of building one,
driving the other, then doing an engine swap at my discretion. I am in
about the same phase you are, looking at $350ish for a rebuild kit,
performance cam for $150ish, have the engine balanced $150ish, some time
getting parts machines $200ish. All of those prices are my guesses and from
about 10 minutes with Google so I really don't know what this will cost. I
add that up plus things that I forgot and I could easily be in this $1000.
Then I hear that "Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00" makes me
wonder if I need to look at that option instead?? Let us know what you
find, I will be watching.


"cooper" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:2qRhc.23978$ok3.16770@nntp-post.primus.ca...
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The

tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like

500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally

get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop
>
>





fletcher 04-22-2004 07:17 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
Keep us posted on what you find. I have been planning on rebuilding my worn
out 258 as my winter project. Then last night I found a free 258 that is in
need of a rebuild as well. So now I have the luxury of building one,
driving the other, then doing an engine swap at my discretion. I am in
about the same phase you are, looking at $350ish for a rebuild kit,
performance cam for $150ish, have the engine balanced $150ish, some time
getting parts machines $200ish. All of those prices are my guesses and from
about 10 minutes with Google so I really don't know what this will cost. I
add that up plus things that I forgot and I could easily be in this $1000.
Then I hear that "Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00" makes me
wonder if I need to look at that option instead?? Let us know what you
find, I will be watching.


"cooper" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:2qRhc.23978$ok3.16770@nntp-post.primus.ca...
> A while ago I bought an '87 YJ with the intention of either running it in
> the winter and saving my '94 YJ from the salt, or building it into an
> offroad beast. I bought it in the summer of '01, and it... ran.
>
> It needs a new motor. The one in there now looks like spaghetti, has metal
> flakes in the oil (when it actually holds oil) and can't hold a charge for
> nothing. It sounds like a freshman band class when it's running. The

tranny
> is smooth, brakes are new, new cat (universal) and exhaust... but I'm at a
> loss where to look for a motor.
>
> I called a few shops and the prices range from 2400-2600 installed, the
> motor being around 1200. I hear of people getting a rebuilt 258 for like

500
> bucks! My goal this summer is to take care of the ol' Beater and finally

get
> it running.
>
> Where do I start looking?
>
> coop
>
>





DougW 04-22-2004 07:33 PM

Re: Ontario Jeepers- used motor? (258 I-6 standard)
 
fletcher did pass the time by typing:
> Keep us posted on what you find. I have been planning on rebuilding my worn
> out 258 as my winter project. Then last night I found a free 258 that is in
> need of a rebuild as well. So now I have the luxury of building one,
> driving the other, then doing an engine swap at my discretion. I am in
> about the same phase you are, looking at $350ish for a rebuild kit,
> performance cam for $150ish, have the engine balanced $150ish, some time
> getting parts machines $200ish. All of those prices are my guesses and from
> about 10 minutes with Google so I really don't know what this will cost. I
> add that up plus things that I forgot and I could easily be in this $1000.
> Then I hear that "Chrysler sells the short blocks for $1200.00" makes me
> wonder if I need to look at that option instead?? Let us know what you
> find, I will be watching.


Than this will rilly get you thinking.

SHORT BLOCK, All Models - 4.0L93-95 $1,075.00 $860.00
Includes: Block With Pistons, Rings, Pins, Rods, Main Bearings,
Crankshaft, Camshaft Bearings, Timing Gears And Timing Chain.

SHORT BLOCK, 5.2L - 5.2L, 5.9L93-98 $3,050.00 $2,440.00
Includes: Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft,
Connecting Rods & Bearings.

http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm

At those prices unless I was after a stroker, that would be the
solution.

Somewhere out there on the wild wild web I ran across a fully
rebuilt or stroked crate I6 for about 2,500 or so.

--
DougW




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